No, in America, we don't put a question mark before a question. Her question mark was saying she has no idea why you asked a question she already answered. Also, this account still quoted and replied to itself.
Completely false. “Smart” kids need to be engaged. They deserve to be pushed and supported to reach their greatest potential just like kids on the opposite end of the spectrum. The average students are who are going to keep our country churning. But if we really want to move ahead as a society we need the brightest to find the cure for cancer, find renewable energy sources, etc. We’re not going to get their pushing the smart kids to the side because “they’ll be fine”.
I agree 100%. It's the same reason why you could fund a West Philly public school to the degree of a country club and you'd still get the same results. It's the parents.
Not true. We do want to address it. Thus why I'm willing to give vouchers a fair consideration. let parents that value education decide where they want to send their children. If you truly believe what you said above then you shouldn't have a problem with segregating students based on their motivation and how much they and their parents value education. If you don't agree then you're saying you are willing to sacrifice the education of those that want to learn and succeed for those that do not.
No there are absolutely limits. We were told there's only so much the district will do for my daughter. Gifted students aren't their biggest concern. Yet they wouldn't let her skip a grade either.
Baloney. If that were the cae, the vouchers would fund more then just the taxes parents pay to send their kids to school.
100% baloney. The same amount goes to each parent per student.
People who live in rural areas have fewer choices now. However from what I have seen, at least in my area is that the public schools in rural areas actually have better schools then in the big cities as the money is spent more wisely.
Baloney.
Children whose native language is not English, should be learning English all along, otherwise what's the point of an education in the uS?
No. It will not. It simply gives the parents control of which school their taxes go to. In the long run it will cost tax payers less as the public schools forced to compete with private schools will learn how to budget wisely and will become less of a financial burden on the taxpayers.
Unfortunately I know many. My one friend group is all teachers. It's embarrassing and uncomfortable how they discuss their profession and their lack of dedication to it. And we live in a very wealthy area. They are making six figures. They make fun of their students, avoid giving students their work if they are being pulled out for vacation and have retirement countdown calendars on their phones. They don't spend one minute at school past their contracted time and have no problem leaving a student struggling if it's after 2:55.
Who told me this lol? When you have one teacher in a classroom with 25 students, 5 are gifted, 2 are extremely gifeted, 5 have severe learning disabilities, 1 is dyslexic and 12 fall somewhere in-between there is NO WAY every student is getting everything they need to reach their greatest potential.
Why Are Academic Prospects Brighter for Private High School Students?
www150.statcan.gc.ca
Here is a large scale study done by Statistics Canada that found that educational outcomes are far more dependent on the socioeconomic status of the parents. On average, the only reason private schools perform better is they have better quality students.
My daughter goes to a boarding prepatory school. Her largest class size is 12 and that is to foster discussion in English and history. There are 8 students in her math and chem class and 6 in German. On Wednesday nights after dinner she and her class mates went to her chem teacher's house to discuss their approach to the lab the next day. Sunday afternoon's her math teacher offer 45 minute blocks for 1 on 1 help. One night a week her German class ate dinner together in the dining hall and only spoke German throughout the meal. All students have an advisor they meet with once a week, same advisor all four years. If you have a C or below in any class you get put on academic probation and meet with you advisor nightly to prioritize your work and studying. They have mandatory study hall every night from 8-10, doors open and electronic devices are collected. The faculty on duty is available to any help they can provide during study hall. Please explain how this academic environment is not superior to public school.
Not at all. We are not wealthy. Tuition is $66,940 per year. We pay $9,000 after financial assistance. The school is within driving distance, 3ish hours. She gets $250 per semester for incidentals as part of our FA package, getting snacks at the student lounge, ordering dinner, etc. We send her maybe $50-$100 a month on top of that. Books are $850/yr but that is also part of our FA package.
I had smaller class sizes in my public school. My smallest class was 3 people. And my school wasn't special in any way. My teachers also offered help at lunch and after school. Elite public schools offer many of the same things while keeping kids with their parents and in their community.
What do you think is happening in the future of the really smart kids who graduated (from either public or private schools)? Hint, the brightest of our nation's children are getting accepted at our nation's top universities in our nation's best and most challenging programs. Since those schools are turning down over 90% of their stellar applicants because they only have so many spots, that goes to show you that we don't have a shortage of the country's brightest. In other words, there is fierce competition between these high achieving students to get into schools and programs sought after by the best of the best students. These brightest kids are not getting pushed to the side. They are competing like never before, the best of the best are filling those coveted spots and they are then going on to cure diseases, work for SpaceX, etc. You'll never see MIT with a need to seek applicants. Every year they've got many, many exceptional ones than they can accept.
Yes, very sadly IMO, many private schools and a huge majority of universities lean pretty far to very far left. I think it's unforgivable that conservatives, for decades, allowed education at all levels to be virtually taken over by liberals and thus become heavily laden with indoctrination. It's been slow in coming but conservatives will not take their votes for local school board members lightly again. Heck, a school board election now has nearly the importance of a presidential election, to me.
Two wrongs do not make a right.
I agree. Not a chance. That's why, way back when I was in high school, concepts like AP classes (and slower classes, I'm not sure of the term for them) formed. Especially in a class like math, there can be as much as a 6 year difference in a child's ability to grasp math - and I'm not even including children with learning disabilities. I'm thinking of two normal kids - but one with very high math skills and one who has always struggled in that subject but is an okay student otherwise.
Vouchers do not address the problem of parents not supporting education.
I 100% have an enormous problem with punishing children for factors outside their control. I 100% have an enormous problem with government created class system. I 100% have a problem with schools getting taxpayer money to discriminate against children.
The ones who want to learn can learn in public school. There is nothing preventing that.
Our local public school is trending that way. It’s a shame. The reality is the world is extremely competitive and hiding that from students does them a huge disservice.