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[W:193] Trump dominates & exposes Pelosi & Schumer

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The following will make an excellent political ad.

Pelosi: “No need to get into this kind of discussion in the public view”

Trump: “But, its not bad Nancy it’s called transparency


That televised meeting was awesome... as Trump cornered Chuck & Nancy.

Trump revealed Democrats do not want The Wall built at any cost.

Trump revealed he will force the Leftists hands... with a shutdown... and Democrats will lose this one too... miserably.

For the wigged-out Leftists... ROTFLOL... let’s remind you... THIS is the issue which catapulted him to the front of the pack.

And Nancy also illustrated the effectiveness of Trump’s tact, by pleading for this to be hidden behind closed doors. THAT... was a fatal error... indicating the weakness of the Leftist position.

****ing brilliant job by Trump once again.

To my Leftists friends. You have Congress now... And it’s going to be a looooong two years for you folks. Trump is going to squeeze your whacked-out party... exposing it for the moronic, anti-American entity it is...

... and he will have fun doing it!!! ROTFLOL...

This was just a showcase of coming attractions... ROTFLOL...

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Trump announcing his candidacy... replete with a litany of references to the mass of illegal invaders... which must be stopped. It won him the candidacy.
 
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The following will make an excellent political ad.



That televised meeting was awesome... as Trump cornered Chuck & Nancy.

Trump revealed Democrats do not want The Wall built at any cost.

Trump revealed he will force the Leftists hands... with a shutdown... and Democrats will lose this one too... miserably.

For the wigged-out Leftists... ROTFLOL... let’s remind you... THIS is the issue which catapulted him to the front of the pack.

And Nancy also illustrated the effectiveness of Trump’s tact, bu pleading for this to be hidden behind closed doors.

****ing brilliant job by Trump once again.

To my Leftists friends. You have Congress now... And it’s going to be a looooong two years for you folks. Trump is going to squeeze your whacked-out party... exposing it for the moronic, anti-American entity it is.

This was just a showcase of coming attractions... ROTFLOL...

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Trump announcing his candidacy... replete with a litany of references to the mass of illegal invaders... which must be stopped. It won him the candidacy.



Wow...you sound desperate...Sorry your leader is a failure.
 

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This many days after the meeting and someone can still post this?!?

:lamo
 

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re: [W:193] Trump dominates & exposes Pelosi & Schumer

The following will make an excellent political ad.



That televised meeting was awesome... as Trump cornered Chuck & Nancy.

Trump revealed Democrats do not want The Wall built at any cost.

Trump revealed he will force the Leftists hands... with a shutdown... and Democrats will lose this one too... miserably.

For the wigged-out Leftists... ROTFLOL... let’s remind you... THIS is the issue which catapulted him to the front of the pack.

And Nancy also illustrated the effectiveness of Trump’s tact, bu pleading for this to be hidden behind closed doors.

****ing brilliant job by Trump once again.

To my Leftists friends. You have Congress now... And it’s going to be a looooong two years for you folks. Trump is going to squeeze your whacked-out party... exposing it for the moronic, anti-American entity it is.

This was just a showcase of coming attractions... ROTFLOL...

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Trump announcing his candidacy... replete with a litany of references to the mass of illegal invaders... which must be stopped. It won him the candidacy.

LOL! Pelosi, love her or hate her, absolutely dick-punched him and took what little remained of his balls home with her.

The fact that that triggers you so is just a continuation of that spectacle.

And it's beautiful.
 

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re: [W:193] Trump dominates & exposes Pelosi & Schumer

The following will make an excellent political ad.



That televised meeting was awesome... as Trump cornered Chuck & Nancy.

Trump revealed Democrats do not want The Wall built at any cost.

Trump revealed he will force the Leftists hands... with a shutdown... and Democrats will lose this one too... miserably.

For the wigged-out Leftists... ROTFLOL... let’s remind you... THIS is the issue which catapulted him to the front of the pack.

And Nancy also illustrated the effectiveness of Trump’s tact, by pleading for this to be hidden behind closed doors. THAT... was a fatal error... indicating the weakness of the Leftist position.

****ing brilliant job by Trump once again.

To my Leftists friends. You have Congress now... And it’s going to be a looooong two years for you folks. Trump is going to squeeze your whacked-out party... exposing it for the moronic, anti-American entity it is...

... and he will have fun doing it!!! ROTFLOL...

This was just a showcase of coming attractions... ROTFLOL...

Trump announcing his candidacy... replete with a litany of references to the mass of illegal invaders... which must be stopped. It won him the candidacy.

Yes, it was awesome watching your idiot leader Trump flail around looking like a complete moron AND if a shutdown does happen HE is taking FULL RESPONSIBILITY for it. I love how when a Republican controlled presidency, house and senate Trump and his merry band of idiots STILL try and blame Dems. Good luck :lamo
 

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re: [W:193] Trump dominates & exposes Pelosi & Schumer

Trump got his ass kicked in that meeting. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a moron.
 

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re: [W:193] Trump dominates & exposes Pelosi & Schumer

Trump really came off as a petulant baby in that meeting. And we see that he's willing to shut down the government to get his way, like some toddler throwing a tantrum. Pelosi even got him to own the looming government shutdown and put it on his shoulders. He'll shut down the government if he's not given exactly what he wanted.

The Republicans owned Congress and the White House for 2 years, so why couldn't they have gotten the wall funding passed earlier? There's not even enough support within their own party to get it done. But now it's the Democrats fault because...well it's an easy scapegoat. But we all know now it's all on Trump, he'll cry and whine and shut the government down unless he gets exactly what he wants.
 

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Yes, it was awesome watching your idiot leader Trump flail around looking like a complete moron AND if a shutdown does happen HE is taking FULL RESPONSIBILITY for it. I love how when a Republican controlled presidency, house and senate Trump and his merry band of idiots STILL try and blame Dems. Good luck :lamo

1. Yes... he did say he would take responsibility for shutting down the government... until Democrats come to their senses and fund what he was elected for.

Great straight forward tactic. He let the nation know he would shut it down... for the Democrats failings. That was obvious, except to the deaf, dumb and blind.

2. Senate requires 60-votes. That means 10 D’s. this is lost on you, and the person who liked your post... because you’re both ignorant. I’ve just helped fill that massive void of ignorance...

You both can thank me later.

PS. This was a huge Trump win... as the Chuck & Nancy Show was exposed in public... with Nancy begging for this not to be debated publicly... ROTFLOL...
 

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1. Yes... he did say he would take responsibility for shutting down the government... until Democrats come to their senses and fund what he was elected for. Great straight forward tactic.

Why should they fund ANYTHING that Trump said, no PROMISED, Mexico would pay for? BTW since the house is who controls the purse strings, the PUBLIC overwhelmingly voted AGAINST the wall by giving the Dems control of the house.

2. Senate requires 60-votes. That means 10 D’s. this is lost on you, and the person who liked your post... because you’re both ignorant. I’ve just helped fill that massive void of ignorance...

They can go nuclear right? Yes, they can. So by their own choice, REPUBLIACNS are at fault.

You both can thank me later.

Yes, thank you for showing not only your continued ignorant comments, but idiotic comments as well. :lamo

PS. This was a huge Trump win... as the Chuck & Nancy Show was exposed in public... with Nancy begging for this not to be debated publicly... ROTFLOL...

No, Trump lost and Chuck and Nancy won since they aren't to blame for ANY government shutdown this year. Trump and the Republicans are. :lamo

You're welcome for showing others how dumb your comments really are. :lamo
 

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Meanwhile, in a land you don't know about:
President Trump’s increasingly urgent push to construct a massive wall on the border with Mexico has created a nightmare scenario for congressional Republicans as they race to avert a partial shutdown of the federal government at the end of next week.

A day after Trump declared he would be proud to let funding lapse for dozens of government agencies if he does not get the money he wants for the wall, congressional Republicans signaled little appetite Wednesday to join his cause.

Some expressed befuddlement at Trump’s strategy, while others sidestepped his comments, marking a new rift between the president and his party on Capitol Hill with just weeks left at the helm of both chambers of Congress.

“I don’t understand the *strategy, but maybe he’s figured it out and he’ll tell us in due course,” said John Cornyn (Tex.), the No. 2 Senate Republican. “But I don’t understand it.”

The disconnect reflects the divergent priorities of Trump and Republicans in Congress during the twilight of their two-year grip on the federal government. While Trump made the wall a signature issue in his 2016 campaign, congressional GOP leaders have displayed less enthusiasm for it.

The divide comes weeks after a difficult midterm election for the GOP, in which Democrats won control of the House. The outcome presented Trump with even longer odds of securing wall funding in the new year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...m_term=.bf00a78bb8bd&wpisrc=nl_evening&wpmm=1

Maybe Trump can negotiate a deal with Mexico to pay for his walll?:lamo:2wave:
 

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You Leftists sound like your media... and they have a perfect record of being wrong on every Trump-bashing attempt.

Bitter clinger Leftists desperately hoping for a win... ROTFLOL...

We will just have to see if the Democrats cave to fund the wall preventing a shutdown, or cave after they’ve been through the slaughterhouse... just like the last time.
 

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Why should they fund ANYTHING that Trump said, no PROMISED, Mexico would pay for? BTW since the house is who controls the purse strings, the PUBLIC overwhelmingly voted AGAINST the wall by giving the Dems control of the house.



They can go nuclear right? Yes, they can. So by their own choice, REPUBLIACNS are at fault.



Yes, thank you for showing not only your continued ignorant comments, but idiotic comments as well. :lamo



No, Trump lost and Chuck and Nancy won since they aren't to blame for ANY government shutdown this year. Trump and the Republicans are. :lamo

You're welcome for showing others how dumb your comments really are. :lamo

It’s fun educating the ignorant.

Yes Trump said he would shut down the government if Democrats fail to fund the wall. It’s obvious who would shut what down and why. He’s just deflated your balloons admitting why HE would shut the government down.

You think that’s a win for you folks... ROTFLOL... OK...

ROTFLOL...

PS> This issue won Trump the nomination and presidency. You think Open Borders is a winning issue for Leftists... OK...

ROTFLOL!!!
 
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Every line in the op sounds like one of Trumps tweets

It took zimmer a few days to muster this thread up. Pure trump-cult fantasy. Odds of the US congress or Mexico funding trump's silly wall are rather remote now.
 

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It took zimmer a few days to muster this thread up. Pure trump-cult fantasy. Odds of the US congress or Mexico funding trump's silly wall are rather remote now.

I don’t live on DP like some here, and I was traveling internationally.

I’ve got a life... it ain’t DP.

This is just a place I visit now and again.

Now back to regular programming.

PS. When you start shooting the messenger for trivial crap (as you just did)... its obvious you’ve run out of rebuttal bullets.
 

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It’s fun educating the ignorant.

Yes Trump said he would shut down the government if Democrats fail to fund the wall. It’s obvious who would shut what down and why. He’s just deflated your balloons admitting why HE would shut the government down.

Yes, because he is acting like a King and not a leader. If he doesn't get his way he will throw a fit. Yes, that's a loss for him and Republicans especially for 2020.

Dems don't NEED to fund a wall, because Trump PROMIOSED MEXICO WILL PAY FOR IT. Don't you remember?

Also, the Republicans can go nuclear and fund it themselves. Trump and you have LOST.

You think that’s a win for you folks... ROTFLOL... OK...

ROTFLOL...

PS> This issue won Trump the nomination and presidency. You think Open Borders is a winning issue for Leftists... OK...

ROTFLOL!!!

And it lost Republicans the HOUSE in 2018. Welcome to two years later.

Again with your dishonest comments, because not wanting to waste money on a wall does not equate to open borders. Pretty sad that dishonesty and ignorant comments is all you have. :lamo
 

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I don’t live on DP like some here, and I was traveling internationally.

I’ve got a life... it ain’t DP.

This is just a place I visit now and again.

Now back to regular programming.

PS. When you start shooting the messenger for trivial crap (as you just did)... its obvious you’ve run out of rebuttal bullets.

Your manhood hinges on the US government funding Trump's ego, err, wall.:lamo
 

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Yes, because he is acting like a King and not a leader. If he doesn't get his way he will throw a fit. Yes, that's a loss for him and Republicans especially for 2020.

Dems don't NEED to fund a wall, because Trump PROMIOSED MEXICO WILL PAY FOR IT. Don't you remember?

Also, the Republicans can go nuclear and fund it themselves. Trump and you have LOST.



And it lost Republicans the HOUSE in 2018. Welcome to two years later.

Again with your dishonest comments, because not wanting to waste money on a wall does not equate to open borders. Pretty sad that dishonesty and ignorant comments is all you have. :lamo

What Trump did is lead. And EXPOSE.

He exposed Pleading Pelosi & Chuck... and made public the need for Democrats to step up and fund what his election was based upon.

He showed leadership, and did so publicly... for ALL to see. “...it’s called transparency” Nancy. ROTFLOL.

It’s evident Democrats want Open Borders. It’s been over 30-years since they made the deal with Reagan... which they failed to fulfill.

Trump will prevail... he’s got the moral high ground on this, and Democrats know it. That’s why Nancy pleaded for the discussion not be aired publicly. If Leftists had a case to make, they’d make it publicly themselves.

They don’t.

Trump knows it, and Leftists know it.

I sincerely hope Leftists test Trump. They’ll rue the day... again.
 

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Your manhood hinges on the US government funding Trump's ego, err, wall.:lamo


Once again, you fail epically.

You fail to address the OP, and go off on some pathetic tangent, because you’ve run out of rebuttal bullets.

Why not come back and post when you have something between your ears worthy of posting beyond these lame ad hominems? You make a complete fool of yourself for you’re desperately out of your league.

Until then... or perhaps we can meet at www.democraticundeground.com ... that wasteland* seems to be more your level of discourse.

*But it’s funny reading the Leftists losing their minds... in chorus!
 

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What Trump did is lead. And EXPOSE.

Nope, wrong as usual on your part.

He exposed Pleading Pelosi & Chuck... and made public the need for Democrats to step up and fund what his election was based upon.

Nope, all he did was show how he can throw a fit on live television and blame others when Republicans hold all the power to shutdown the government.

He showed leadership, and did so publicly... for ALL to see. “...it’s called transparency” Nancy. ROTFLOL.

Nope, Nancy didn't want to embarrass the president on live television by pointing out all his lies he was telling. She already had him on a few.

It’s evident Democrats want Open Borders. It’s been over 30-years since they made the deal with Reagan.

Nope, wrong as usual since not wanting a wall does not equate to open borders no matter how hard you want it to be. You're only showing how dishoenst your comments are as usual.

Trump will prevail... he’s got the moral high ground on this, and Democrats know it. That’s why Nancy pleaded for the discussion not be aired publicly. If DLeftists had a case to make, they’d make it publicly themselves.

And if a shutdown happens, Republicans will take the blame since Trump promised the wall would be paid by Mexico and the Republicans hold all the control, including the nuclear option to bypass Dems if they really wanted to. They don't.

They don’t.

Trump knows it, and Leftists know it.

I sincerely hope Leftists test Trump. They’ll rue the day... again.

Everyone knows Republicans in 2018 control congress and any shutdown is due to them since they can prevent it or go nuclear. They don't want either.

Trump has lost and will bring Republicans in the sewer with him if he shuts down the government.

If Trump were smart, he would have shut his mouth THIS year and then done this next year when the Dems DO control the house unlike how the Republicans control ALL OF CONGRESS and the PRESIDENCY NOW.

Thanks Zimmer for showing us what ignorant, amateur and completely dishonest comments you make. :lamo You really should be embarrassed for your ignorance on how the government works. Keep riding the fail train like you are, EVERYONE can now see your utter ignorant comments. :lamo
 

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Once again, you fail epically.

You fail to address the OP, and go off on some pathetic tangent, because you’ve run out of rebuttal bullets.

Why not come back and post when you have something between your ears worthy of posting beyond these lame ad hominems? You make a complete fool of yourself for you’re desperately out of your league.

Until then... or perhaps we can meet at www.democraticundeground.com ... that wasteland* seems to be more your level of discourse.

*But it’s funny reading the Leftists losing their minds... in chorus!

That website is as dumb as freeperland. What's your id on freerepublic, anyway?

BTW, your OP was not reality based. I may bump this thread periodically for laughs.
 

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Nope, wrong as usual on your part.



Nope, all he did was show how he can throw a fit on live television and blame others when Republicans hold all the power to shutdown the government.



Nope, Nancy didn't want to embarrass the president on live television by pointing out all his lies he was telling. She already had him on a few.



Nope, wrong as usual since not wanting a wall does not equate to open borders no matter how hard you want it to be. You're only showing how dishoenst your comments are as usual.



And if a shutdown happens, Republicans will take the blame since Trump promised the wall would be paid by Mexico and the Republicans hold all the control, including the nuclear option to bypass Dems if they really wanted to. They don't.



Everyone knows Republicans in 2018 control congress and any shutdown is due to them since they can prevent it or go nuclear. They don't want either.

Trump has lost and will bring Republicans in the sewer with him if he shuts down the government.

If Trump were smart, he would have shut his mouth THIS year and then done this next year when the Dems DO control the house unlike how the Republicans control ALL OF CONGRESS and the PRESIDENCY NOW.

Thanks Zimmer for showing us what ignorant, amateur and completely dishonest comments you make. :lamo You really should be embarrassed for your ignorance on how the government works. Keep riding the fail train like you are, EVERYONE can now see your utter ignorant comments. :lamo

Wrong!!! ROTFLOL...

He did lead and EXPOSE. That’s obvious to any school child. Trump also had Chuck & Nancy writhing like the snakes they are, with Pelosi pleading this not be debated publicly.

Why would she do that if it is a winning hand?

Because it’s not, and she knows it. Chuck knows it too.

The shutdown will not be beneficial for Leftists. Trump won largely on this one issue... and he has the Bully Pulpit, and he’s not a coward... he will cut your hearts out. :)

I’ve blogged the OP, for easy reference. We will see the outcome of this in the not so distant future.
 
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That website is as dumb as freeperland. What's your id on freerepublic, anyway?

BTW, your OP was not reality based. I may bump this thread periodically for laughs.

Still not addressing the OP.

Which is not at all surprising.

This is the Leftist Way. When you cannot debate... obfuscate.

Stick around... I’m here to educate the ignorant.

PS. Www.democraticundergound.comm is right up your alley. They don’t debate either.
 

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you right wingers truly are full of ****. Trump was made to look like a child and a complete idiot in that meeting
 
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