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[W:171] AOC and ‘Squad’ Defund Israel’s Iron Dome Defence System from Democrats’ $1Bn Spending Bill

AOC didn't vote against this today, btw.
 
ecofarm said:
The survival of Israel is national security. It's a democratic ally in a sea of backwards tyranny. If geopolitics can be said to be a matter of national security, and it certainly is, Israel is perhaps our greatest ally.

The fall of allies, especially in highly contested regions, is a matter of national security. That is why we invest in Israel.
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The Israelis are nuclear capable and can survive alright without my money. I am more interested in the real struggle for survival among the homeless in the US.
 
pamak said:
They are nuclear capable and can survive alright without my money.
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I find their thriving, and not resorting to last resorts, in US national interest.
 
Anthony60 said:
Did they take $1 billion in funding away from Israel? The Jew hating squad just did. How are those people you are posting about tied in with the squad of morons cutting aid to Israel? What you are posting has nothing to do with the OP.
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"The jew hating squad"?????

Come guy try to be serious.

The jew haters are right wing. I proved that to you.

Oh, and they didn't "take anything away from Isreal", they just said you guys need to pay your own bills instead of leaching off of American taxpayers.

The squad is just being fiscally conservative.

Israel is a rich country with a healthy economy and tax base.

Their taxpayers should be paying for their defense. We shouldn't be asking American taxpayers to pick up their bill.
 
ecofarm said:
I find their thriving, and not resorting to last resorts, in US national interest
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Ridiculous to agonize about their survival when the homemade rockets from Gaza have killed very few Israelis. Again, there is more death among the homeless in my state, and I am more interested in helping them. The Israelis are much stronger .militarily and economically than their rivals and they can take care of themselves alright.
 
ecofarm said:
Two nazis walk into a bar and the bartender says, "how about that Squad really sticking it to Israel?"

What happens? I'm not sure. I wanna see.
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They will say that AOC is still a bit#h and. no matter what the Jewish supporters say, she is not and can never be a. neonazi.
 
Atomic Kid said:
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Boy, you guys just stick to that playbook. Your replies are memes, emojis, LOL's, etc.. anything but a logical, well reasoned reply.
I don't understand why you feel you must reply, even though you've been bested, over and over.
 
NolanVoyd said:
"The jew hating squad"?????
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Sorry, but they don't even try to hide it.
NolanVoyd said:
The jew haters are right wing. I proved that to you.
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Huh? You posted a video, I guess (I didn't bother clicking on it), of other Jew haters. But they were just chanting and don't have any power as Congressmen, right?

Please explain how that "proves" that the squad doesn't hate Jews. Should I post a video of KKK member Robert Byrd? Would that then "prove" that the squad hates Jews? It would, by your logic (actually, lack of).
NolanVoyd said:
Oh, and they didn't "take anything away from Isreal", they just said you guys need to pay your own bills instead of leaching off of American taxpayers.
The squad is just being fiscally conservative.
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Nope, they don't give a rat's ass about controlling spending. They just hate Jews. Or are you saying, "It's all about the Benjamins"? Remember who tweeted that? Hint; it was someone that hates Jews.
 
Chainsawmassacre said:
The squad is just showboating as per usual. They know we won't defund our only real friend in that region. It does however highlight their anti-Semitism.
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Anti Semitics, who & why???
 
Anthony60 said:
Boy, you guys just stick to that playbook. Your replies are memes, emojis, LOL's, etc.. anything but a logical, well reasoned reply.
I don't understand why you feel you must reply, even though you've been bested, over and over.
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My experience here has been that the 'KISS principle' usually is what works best when it comes to dealing with you guys.
 
Anthony60 said:
Yes, he did. He was the best President since Reagan, at least.
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Well he might have been if he had four more years OH that is at running up the debt
about the only thing Reagan was good at.
Reagan almost tripled the debt, Bush II doubled it and Trump ran it up almost as much in 4 years as Obama did in 8 years ( remember how the right kept crying and lying about Obama running it up )
If Trump had 4 more years he may have by-passed Bush II and maybe even Reagan
Have a nice night
 
pamak said:
Ridiculous to agonize about their survival when the homemade rockets from Gaza have killed very few Israelis. Again, there is more death among the homeless in my state, and I am more interested in helping them. The Israelis are much stronger .militarily and economically than their rivals and they can take care of themselves alright.
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Yup if not for the darn Iron Dome we would have had many more dead Jews. Maybe next time.
 
I don't get it. Can someone tell me why on earth we should subsidize an Iron Dome for Israel?

I can think of no argument for this. What is it I am missing?
 
Anthony60 said:
In this case, that means Keep It Stupid, Stupid. Stick to that playbook.
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Anthony60 said:
In this case, that means Keep It Stupid, Stupid. Stick to that playbook.
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Jesus! You can't read an acronym correctly. It means "keep it simple stupid". Which evidently it appears that there doesn't exist a sufficient blend of either for you to be able to get it
 
noonereal said:
I don't get it. Can someone tell me why on earth we should subsidize an Iron Dome for Israel?

I can think of no argument for this. What is it I am missing?
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Let's say, hypothetically, you wanted to develop a capability to defend yourself from rocket barrage. You need a) someone to build it, and b) someone to test it, ideally under conditions that are as close as possible to actually being under rocket barrage.

Iron Dome is a jointly developed capability, that Hamas is kind enough to provide extensive field testing for. I feel generally good with a C-RAM, mind you, but, it's not exactly perfect; rockets got through at HKIA and BAF.
 
cpwill said:
Let's say, hypothetically, you wanted to develop a capability to defend yourself from rocket barrage. You need a) someone to build it, and b) someone to test it, ideally under conditions that are as close as possible to actually being under rocket barrage.

Iron Dome is a jointly developed capability, that Hamas is kind enough to provide extensive field testing for. I feel generally good with a C-RAM, mind you, but, it's not exactly perfect; rockets got through at HKIA and BAF.
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Thanks.

Do you have a valid reason to build it?
 
cpwill said:
Let's say, hypothetically, you wanted to develop a capability to defend yourself from rocket barrage. You need a) someone to build it, and b) someone to test it, ideally under conditions that are as close as possible to actually being under rocket barrage.

Iron Dome is a jointly developed capability, that Hamas is kind enough to provide extensive field testing for. I feel generally good with a C-RAM, mind you, but, it's not exactly perfect; rockets got through at HKIA and BAF.
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You really think that Hamas can fully replicate the kind of missile attack that a much more well self supported and technologically sophisticated state would be capable of carrying out?
 
TomFitz said:
The dormant national socialists were out of the closet on Jan 6th.
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Those were Socialists wandering aimlessly around the capitol building that night? How do you know that?
 
ClaraD said:
So, that means we have to support them financially? Do you support all of your friends financially?
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Democracies with shared commonalities are called "Allies". Israel, among many other Democracies, is an Ally.
 
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