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[Carl Young]

Exactly what I said he said.

When he said that he was referring to the people at the unite the right rally.

"But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly."

"
But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest "

The thing is he is wrong.

There were no good people in that group.

THINK ABOUT IT.

The rally was organized by a nazi named Jason Kessler, he got the permits, booked the speakers, advertised etc.

Good people don't go to participate in rallies organized by Nazis.

Let's say there were some good people that were simply ignorant of the fact that it was organized by nazis.

They show up, they see all the nazi flags and Klan signs and what do they do?

If they are really good people they leave immediately or join the group opposing the nazis.

If they stayed and marched with the nazis then they ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE.

so Trump was wrong.

There were not very fine people in that group.

"But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly."

That about covers it.

 

[NolanVoyd]

"But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly."

That about covers it.

Read my post. You didn't.

I quoted that exact bit.

Get back to me after you have read it.

 

[eohrnberger]

Exactly what I said he said.

When he said that he was referring to the people at the unite the right rally.

"But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly."

"
But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest "

The thing is he is wrong.

There were no good people in that group.

THINK ABOUT IT.

The rally was organized by a nazi named Jason Kessler, he got the permits, booked the speakers, advertised etc.

Good people don't go to participate in rallies organized by Nazis.

Let's say there were some good people that were simply ignorant of the fact that it was organized by nazis.

They show up, they see all the nazi flags and Klan signs and what do they do?

If they are really good people they leave immediately or join the group opposing the nazis.

If they stayed and marched with the nazis then they ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE.

so Trump was wrong.

There were not very fine people in that group.

So much leftist 'news' (political propaganda) media BS.
If you read the actual transcript, it was clear that Trump was referring to the 'fine' people on both sides of the statue controversy.
For example:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof. | RealClearPolitics

News anchors and pundits have repeated lies about Donald Trump and race so often that some of these narratives seem true, even to Americans who embrace the fruits of the presidents policies. The...

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Seems to be pretty unequivocal. Supported by one of the media's own talking potato heads.

WATCH: Even CNN’s Tapper Admits Trump Didn’t Call Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists ‘Very Fine People’ | The Daily Wire

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[BlueTex]

 

[Carl Young]

It would appear that it would be the Israelis that would be betting on it. I don't have any say in it.

In fact you had a say in post #339.

 

[Carl Young]

Exactly what I said he said.

When he said that he was referring to the people at the unite the right rally.

"But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly."

"
But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest "

The thing is he is wrong.

There were no good people in that group.

THINK ABOUT IT.

The rally was organized by a nazi named Jason Kessler, he got the permits, booked the speakers, advertised etc.

Good people don't go to participate in rallies organized by Nazis.

Let's say there were some good people that were simply ignorant of the fact that it was organized by nazis.

They show up, they see all the nazi flags and Klan signs and what do they do?

If they are really good people they leave immediately or join the group opposing the nazis.

If they stayed and marched with the nazis then they ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE.

so Trump was wrong.

There were not very fine people in that group.

"I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly".

Who are you referring to apart from the Nazis and White Nationalists?

 

[snakestretcher]

It’s really not about the money, it’s about the idea that primitive people who are not capable of producing anything of value for the world are the victims of a successful civilization.

We used to admire manly conquerors and now we admire losers.

Yes, well this is the 21st century and we don't glorify warmongering any longer. What is 'manly' about war and conquering countries anyway? You do have some weird ideas-but then again you admire murderous fascist dictators and their authoritarian nationalist regimes-like the Nazis, so no surprise really.

 

[Mycroft]

No sir, that doesn't change the fact that she didn't vote against it. That specifically requires a "no" vote.

Yeah, yeah...she's hoping her Jewish constituency are useful idiot enough to believe your take on it.

 

[snakestretcher]

Horseshit

Yes, this is how effective the Israel lobby (AIPAC), and pro-Israeli propaganda is; poor tiny, defenceless (nuclear armed) Israel, surrounded by vicious Islamists determined to 'push Israel into the sea'. It's all bullshit of course and Israel is laughing over how gullible the US is. As I mentioned earlier Netanyahu, caught unguarded on video, cynically mocked the US as an 'easily manipulated pushover'. He's right.

 

[j brown's body]

"But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly."

That about covers it.

How "fine" is anyone who attends a rally sponsored by Nazis for the purpose of preserving symbols of white supremacy?

 

[snakestretcher]

The bullshit, we financed Europe for years. Ever heard of NATO?

Garbage; you have not 'financed' Europe. Every NATO member contributes according to their treaty obligations.

 

[snakestretcher]

Yes I believe I previously stated Israel is our only friend in the region.

Hilarious. Do friends usually sell your military technology to an enemy and spy on you?

 

[snakestretcher]

lol, yes they are a real people.



So all Palestinians deserve to be punished?

Again, the poster you replied to is clearly a victim of relentless AIPAC and pro-Israeli propaganda. The Palestinians are under 'belligerent occupation' (a legal term), and are thus permitted, under international law, to defend themselves against a belligerent occupier-Israel. I like to employ a parallel with the Jewish Resistance in occupied Poland who fought their belligerent occupier-Nazi Germany. Why should it be permissible for one ethnicity to defend itself but not another? Israel has been laying on the guilt trips for decades, but I'm afraid their sympathy card ran out of credit...
https://www.icrc.org/en/doc/assets/files/other/law9_final.pdf (Scroll down to 'Resistance...'). And, by the way, these are the same laws and conventions that Israel agreed to observe and abide by when becoming a UN member-state, signatory to both the UN Charter and Geneva Conventions on human rights-the latter enacted largely in reaction to how the Jews were treated during WW2. There's some irony there when one considers how Israel treats the Palestinians behind their 30-foot Gaza walls, patrolled by armed guards in watch towers...

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Yes, well this is the 21st century and we don't glorify warmongering any longer. What is 'manly' about war and conquering countries anyway? You do have some weird ideas-but then again you admire murderous fascist dictators and their authoritarian nationalist regimes-like the Nazis, so no surprise really.

That’s not true, your kind do nothing but glorify Arab terrorists.

 

[snakestretcher]

That’s not true, your kind do nothing but glorify Arab terrorists.

And where have I done that? Should I also point you toward the post where you expressed your admiration for Augusto Pinochet?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

And where have I done that? Should I also point you toward the post where you expressed your admiration for Augusto Pinochet?

That’s entirely what the glorification of the Arabs in Palestine is about. They are glorified as freedom fighters when they are actually primitive peoples who are lashing out of resentment over the success of the Israelis

 

[Irredentist]

It’s really not about the money, it’s about the idea that primitive people who are not capable of producing anything of value for the world are the victims of a successful civilization.

We used to admire manly conquerors and now we admire losers.

There's nothing quite as despicable as the idea that a people has to "produce something of value" in order to be deemed worthy of continuing to exist.

 

[Irredentist]

That’s entirely what the glorification of the Arabs in Palestine is about. They are glorified as freedom fighters when they are actually primitive peoples who are lashing out of resentment over the success of the Israelis

Of course they resent the success of the Israelis. From the very beginning, the success of Israel has come at the expense of the Palestinian people.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Of course they resent the success of the Israelis. From the very beginning, the success of Israel has come at the expense of the Palestinian people.

Wrong. The Arabs have always been primitive and poor.

So when an advanced society develops on the same land mass it causes the more backward people to assume that success was rightfully theres and it was stolen from them. It would not. Arabs living in Palestine would not have created an advanced society if given any amount of time. So nothing was stolen from them.

 

[Irredentist]

Wrong. The Arabs have always been primitive and poor.

So when an advanced society develops on the same land mass it causes the more backward people to assume that success was rightfully theres and it was stolen from them. It would not. Arabs living in Palestine would not have created an advanced society if given any amount of time. So nothing was stolen from them.

Arab Muslims, Jews, and Christians were all living together in Palestine before the creation of modern Israel. Your characterization of history is wholly inaccurate.

 

[Logician Man]

Wrong. The Arabs have always been primitive and poor.

Saudi Arabia is "poor"? Dubai is "primitive and poor"?

 

[NatMorton]

Wrong. The Arabs have always been primitive and poor.

Actually, circa 1000, they were probably the world's most advanced culture in most respects. Their development has slowed considerably since.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Actually, circa 1000, they were probably the world's most advanced culture in most respects. Their development has slowed considerably since.

No. They weren’t, they conquered through military brilliance large portions of former Greek territory and most of accomplishment of “arab culture” was really made by Greeks

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Saudi Arabia is "poor"? Dubai is "primitive and poor"?

Some oil rich gulf states with relatively small populations are incredibly rich from cheap to extract oil especially in an area where oil is fetching 80 dollars a barrel. They still pay only 10 to pump it and oil will never be that cheap again.

They provide massive subsidies to their own citizens, don’t tax them, and live solely on oil royalties, and they hire foreigners to perform most jobs

None of this however is relevant to the people in Palestine, the Arabs in Palestine are in fact largely poor.

 

[Logician Man]

Some oil rich gulf states with relatively small populations are incredibly rich from cheap to extract oil especially in an area where oil is fetching 80 dollars a barrel. They still pay only 10 to pump it and oil will never be that cheap again.

They provide massive subsidies to their own citizens, don’t tax them, and live solely on oil royalties, and they hire foreigners to perform most jobs

None of this however is relevant to the people in Palestine, the Arabs in Palestine are in fact largely poor.

No mention in your post of "Arabs in Palestine" that I responded to. So, thanks for proving by your own written words in your above post, you presented a 'non-factual' positive claim.