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[W:171] ‘I’m at a loss honestly:’ People holding Nazi flags harass citizens in Mid-Michigan

hooligan said:
This is happening about a 30 min drive down I-96 from where I live.

Disgusting and unexcusable.



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On the one hand, they have a right to their actions, as long as they comply with applicable laws.

On the other hand, everyone else has the right to agree or disagree with them as they see fit, as long as they comply with applicable laws.

Me? I have no use for them, but I will defend their right to say and do what they want, as long as they comply with applicable laws.
 
Rebelliousness is the "in" thing to do nowadays, don't cha know? Everybody's gotta rebel against something or someone...
 

They're your allies.
 
redbeer said:
There's always been idiots like this, nothing new. It's not the end of democracy under a Trump win, fyi.
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democracy will indeed die on Jan 20, 2025.....unless by some miracle he is unable to take power as well as Vance...because Vance is worse than Trump..so, either way we are ****ed.
 
"There was a group of people at the four-way intersection in downtown that had swastika flags and American flags,” said Sutfill. “They were sticking their arms up and yelling hail Hitler and Hail Trump and everything like that."

This is the dark underbelly of nationalist rhetoric.
 

This doesn't make you look magnanimous in any conceivable way. Just pointing this out because self-awareness doesn't seem to be your thing.
 
multivita-man said:
This doesn't make you look magnanimous in any conceivable way. Just pointing this out because self-awareness doesn't seem to be your thing.
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I'm not here to "look magnanimous". LOL!!

I'm just speaking my mind.

Take it or leave it. I don't care.
 
Sure, you do. They helped you elect Trump. Or did you mean to say you have no use for them now?
 
ClaraD said:
democracy will indeed die on Jan 20, 2025.....unless by some miracle he is unable to take power as well as Vance...because Vance is worse than Trump..so, either way we are ****ed.
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Oh my, it must really suck. Hopefully one day soon you'll realize how the ones you listen to have been lying to you.
 
hooligan said:
This is happening about a 30 min drive down I-96 from where I live.

Disgusting and unexcusable.



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These people better beware. At some point a group that does not sympathize may show up and kick their asses. That's the thing about acting out whether it be in this case, or a road rage incident. You never know who you are dealing with, and you could get your ass handed to you or worse with all the people that carry now.

I was driving my motor home in Michigan a few weeks ago and stopped at an exit at a yield sign. The exit was pointing so far to the right where it intersected with the highway I couldn't see if anyone was coming to my left. (Our first trip with the motorhome and I will not do that again). Anyway, within a couple of seconds while I'm trying desperately to see if a vehicle is coming to my left a pick up truck behind me becomes unglued and starts whaling his horn. He then pulls around me and gives me the finger. I shouldn't have done it but I gave him the finger back. We pull off to a gas station/restaurant to get something to eat, and he does a u turn on the highway and follows us in. I tell the wife to call the local police as we have no idea what is about to unfold. He pulls up next to us and starts screaming at us that we need to learn to drive blah blah blah. He must have noticed the wife on the phone as he then takes off.

My point is if I had also been someone that easily comes unglued this could have escalated into something really bad. I could have been 6'6'' 300 lbs., pulled him out of the car and slammed him against his car. Or he could have been carrying and shot me. You never know.

I don't remember people like him on the highways growing up? Do you?
 
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Mycroft said:
That's correct.


Good.

But so did a lot of other people...even Democrats helped elect Trump. I don't condemn them for that even if I totally disagree with their positions.


I mean to say that I've NEVER had any use for them.
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That's the thing about tools, you discard them when no longer useful.
 


Oh, to be sure - I'm not advocating for them to be silenced by the government, or anyone else.

I'm just sad and angry that they actually still exist.
 
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