• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

[W:153]Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in nat'l bankruptcy

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Honestly, you don't think so many third world peasants will work out, with you in power, without national bankruptcy?
 

KevinKohler

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 4, 2011
Messages
26,787
Reaction score
12,986
Location
CT
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

Economic assistance is not a repub/liberal thing. Just as many poor republicans as there are poor democrats, and they're all on assistance.

Re-title the bait thread. You might get better debate that way.
 

CriticalThought

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2009
Messages
19,657
Reaction score
8,454
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

Honestly, you don't think so many third world peasants will work out, with you in power, without national bankruptcy?

I can't think of a single liberal who supports "welfare for life" but it does make a good stawman.

straw-man-meme.jpg
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

Economic assistance is not a repub/liberal thing. Just as many poor republicans as there are poor democrats, and they're all on assistance.

Re-title the bait thread. You might get better debate that way.

What about crime? Why is it that most crimes in the west are committed by leftists? Is it the laws? Consider that 52% of murders in the US are committed by 13% of the population. How is that possible?
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

Economic assistance is not a repub/liberal thing. Just as many poor republicans as there are poor democrats, and they're all on assistance.

Re-title the bait thread. You might get better debate that way.

If you really think that just as many republicans are on welfare as democrats, perhaps you should post those official stats
 

Tanngrisnir

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 2, 2016
Messages
34,150
Reaction score
15,598
Location
No longer Los Angeles
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

What about crime? Why is it that most crimes in the west are committed by leftists? Is it the laws? Consider that 52% of murders in the US are committed by 13% of the population. How is that possible?

OK, but what about Frisbees?
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

I can't think of a single liberal who supports "welfare for life" but it does make a good stawman.

straw-man-meme.jpg

Perhaps you don't get out much
 

CriticalThought

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2009
Messages
19,657
Reaction score
8,454
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

Perhaps you don't get out much

I live in Northern Florida. Literally everyone I know who is on welfare here is an avid Trump supporter.
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

OK, but what about Frisbees?

Latinos are also heavily in the crime logs. White people, not so much. As for frisbees, I once had a dog that could catch them.
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

I live in Northern Florida. Literally everyone I know who is on welfare here is an avid Trump supporter.

I have a sister on welfare, a true Obama devotee. Your fake news stories do not impress me. Lie all you want
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

There are 5 times as many blacks on welfare as whites, based on population size.

You leftists teach latinos to be victims as well, resulting in an untenable situation with 22 million to 30 million illegals in this country now. We cannot afford this.
 

CriticalThought

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2009
Messages
19,657
Reaction score
8,454
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

I have a sister on welfare, a true Obama devotee. Your fake news stories do not impress me. Lie all you want

My friends are fake news? That may be news to them.
 

CriticalThought

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2009
Messages
19,657
Reaction score
8,454
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

There are 5 times as many blacks on welfare as whites, based on population size.

You leftists teach latinos to be victims as well, resulting in an untenable situation with 22 million to 30 million illegals in this country now. We cannot afford this.

Huh?

Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown.
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

My friends are fake news? That may be news to them.

The entire Democrat Party is fake news. Just consider the Democratic party legacy:

Slavery, Jim Crowe, Dred Scott, The KKK, Opposition to Civil Rights.

Yes, that is your legacy in a nutshell.

Now you focus on "white privilege" and other racist pogroms again conservative white people, with you liberal whites hating yourselves. Well done.
 

CriticalThought

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2009
Messages
19,657
Reaction score
8,454
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

The entire Democrat Party is fake news. Just consider the Democratic party legacy:

Slavery, Jim Crowe, Dred Scott, The KKK, Opposition to Civil Rights.

Yes, that is your legacy in a nutshell.

Now you focus on "white privilege" and other racist pogroms again conservative white people, with you liberal whites hating yourselves. Well done.

I am not a Democrat. But yes, that has been the legacy of Southern Democrats. Until they switched parties after the Civil Rights era.
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

Huh?

Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown.

43% were white, yet whites are 70% of the population. 30 million were black, despite being 13% of the population
 

CriticalThought

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2009
Messages
19,657
Reaction score
8,454
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

43% were white, yet whites are 70% of the population. 30 million were black, despite being 13% of the population

I believe you said 5 times? Could you work that math out for me? Would not want to accuse you of fake news.
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

I am not a Democrat. But yes, that has been the legacy of Southern Democrats. Until they switched parties after the Civil Rights era.

The only one who switched was Strom Thurmond and nobody care about what that asshole had to say
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

I believe you said 5 times? Could you work that math out for me? Would not want to accuse you of fake news.

It is a per population calculation, perhaps you think it is unfair?
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

If 13% of the population (blacks) commit 52% of the murders (since 1980), then the math is 52 to 13. Close to 5 times.
.
 

CriticalThought

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2009
Messages
19,657
Reaction score
8,454
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

The only one who switched was Strom Thurmond and nobody care about what that asshole had to say

That is factually and historically incorrect. Johnson even famously predicted handing the South to Republicans immediately after signing the Civil Rights Act. It was the campaign strategy of Nixon that took him to the White House.

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-party-of-lincoln-won-over-the-once-democratic-south

The night that Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, his special assistant Bill Moyers was surprised to find the president looking melancholy in his bedroom. Moyers later wrote that when he asked what was wrong, Johnson replied, “I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come.”It may seem a crude remark to make after such a momentous occasion, but it was also an accurate prediction.
To understand some of the reasons the South went from a largely Democratic region to a primarily Republican area today, just follow the decades of debate over racial issues in the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
 

ttwtt78640

Sometimes wrong
DP Veteran
Joined
May 22, 2012
Messages
89,923
Reaction score
53,628
Location
Uhland, Texas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

There are 5 times as many blacks on welfare as whites, based on population size.

You leftists teach latinos to be victims as well, resulting in an untenable situation with 22 million to 30 million illegals in this country now. We cannot afford this.

That (bolded above) assertion is nonsense - which is likely why you didn't (can't and therefore won't) post a link to back it up.
 

CriticalThought

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2009
Messages
19,657
Reaction score
8,454
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

It is a per population calculation, perhaps you think it is unfair?

What is 25.6 percent of 43 million? What is 18 percent of 70 million? It isn't unfair, your math is simply wrong.
 

NeverTrump

Exposing GOP since 2015
DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 21, 2013
Messages
25,357
Reaction score
11,556
Location
Post-Trump America
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Moderate
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

Honestly, you don't think so many third world peasants will work out, with you in power, without national bankruptcy?

Seems like a lot of new trolls joined the forum in the new year.
 

Virgil Jones

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
1,592
Reaction score
213
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Re: Don't You Liberals Realize that your Welfare for life program will result in national bankruptcy

That is factually and historically incorrect. Johnson even famously predicted handing the South to Republicans immediately after signing the Civil Rights Act. It was the campaign strategy of Nixon that took him to the White House.

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-party-of-lincoln-won-over-the-once-democratic-south



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Dinsesh DSouza recently named those who switched in his film. Obviously, since Obama imprisoned him for a year for his films, there has to be some truth there. An awful lot of truth.
 
Top Bottom