Voter Fraud in Colorado

[Patrickt]

"Local officials in Colorado acknowledged "very serious" voter fraud after learning of votes cast in multiple elections under the named of recently-deceased residents.

A local media outlet uncovered the fraud by comparing voting history databases in the state with federal government death records. "Somebody was able to cast a vote that was not theirs to cast," El Paso County Clerk and Recorder Chuck Broerman told CBS4 while discussing what he called a "very serious" pattern of people mailing in ballots on behalf of the dead.


It's not clear how many fraudulent ballots have been submitted in recent years. CBS4 reported that it "found multiple cases" of dead people voting around the state, revelations that have provoked state criminal investigations."
Dead people voting in Colorado | Washington Examiner

Clearly, if people died one year and voted the next year, frequently with mail-in ballots, it's illegal. But, there is no way possible to get a guilty verdict on anyone.

No wonder the Democrats are desperate to get all voting done by mail-in ballots. When they walk in and vote as someone else there is a possible witness. Plus, with mail-in ballots it's so much easier.

A few years ago a man voted for his dead wife and when he was questioned about the vote he said, "I knew how she would vote so I didn't see anything wrong with it."

But, the media supports the Democrat meme that there is no fraud, none, and not only should nothing be done to fight fraud but we must maintain systems that encourage fraud such as motor voter laws, mail in ballots for everyone, and anonymous voting.

Democrats are about as Democratic as those People's Parties are about the people.

 

[countryboy]

I'm sure this is a mistake. I thought voter fraud never happens?

 

[Deuce]

I'm sure this is a mistake. I thought voter fraud never happens?

People have repeatedly told you it's rare. That doesn't mean never.

Surely you believe every vote cast is fraudulent. Right? This is your black and white world, after all.


You guys should learn from the past: the vast majority of these supposed dead votes turn out to not actually be voter fraud. Typically just a minor clerical error involving similar or identical names.

Can't wait for the first mention of voter ID laws...

 

[Patrickt]

People have repeatedly told you it's rare. That doesn't mean never.

Surely you believe every vote cast is fraudulent. Right? This is your black and white world, after all.


You guys should learn from the past: the vast majority of these supposed dead votes turn out to not actually be voter fraud. Typically just a minor clerical error involving similar or identical names.

Can't wait for the first mention of voter ID laws...

Of course, it's just a clerical error. And the joke about Resurrection Day that sends Democrats into giggles is just their great sense of humor. And the fact that Democrats sue to keep voter fraud going isn't relevant, either. Didn't Oregon just go to an all mail-in ballot system to enhance the liberal lock on the state. Other states have unrestricted absentee ballots.

But, doesn't happen and when it does it's just a clerical error. It's why Melowese Richardson is a Democrat hero. I wonder if her being released from prison with less than a year served on her five-year sentence was a clerical error.

"CINCINNATI – A long-time poll worker who admitted to illegal voting was sentenced to five years in prison Wednesday and received a rebuke from the judge, who cited her criminal past.Melowese Richardson, 58, pleaded no contest to four counts of illegal voting in 2009, 2011 and 2012. One count charged her with voting for her sister, who is in a coma. Four other counts were dropped in exchange for Richardson’s plea.During a passionate sentencing speech, Hamilton County Judge Robert P. Ruehlman laid out a laundry list of past charges against Richardson – from witness harassment to theft to assault – as Richardson stood before him.That was only eight months ago. For some reason, she has already been released.At an event that was all about voting law, Ohio Democrats invited a person guilty of multiple counts of voter fraud to speak – to “welcome her back” and applaud her.They invited her up to the stage, like some sort of hero."
Woman Convicted of Voter Fraud Honored by Ohio Democrats - Breitbart

 

[ttwtt78640]

I'm sure this is a mistake. I thought voter fraud never happens?

Secret ballot means that nobody should be able know who actually cast any particular ballot.

 

[Paperview]

People have repeatedly told you it's rare. That doesn't mean never.

Surely you believe every vote cast is fraudulent. Right? This is your black and white world, after all.


You guys should learn from the past: the vast majority of these supposed dead votes turn out to not actually be voter fraud. Typically just a minor clerical error involving similar or identical names.

Can't wait for the first mention of voter ID laws...

Yes, we get this every election cycle. Expect to hear more.

It gets investigated, then we find out just as you said - not what it appears.

 

[Paperview]

Of course, it's just a clerical error. And the joke about Resurrection Day that sends Democrats into giggles is just their great sense of humor. And the fact that Democrats sue to keep voter fraud going isn't relevant, either. Didn't Oregon just go to an all mail-in ballot system to enhance the liberal lock on the state. Other states have unrestricted absentee ballots.

But, doesn't happen and when it does it's just a clerical error. It's why Melowese Richardson is a Democrat hero. I wonder if her being released from prison with less than a year served on her five-year sentence was a clerical error.
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It's exceedingly rare.
Studies Agree: Impersonation Fraud by Voters Very Rarely Happens

• The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.00004 percent and 0.0009 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”
• A study published by a Columbia University political scientist tracked incidence rates for voter fraud for two years, and found that the rare fraud that was reported generally could be traced to “false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error.”
• A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny number is likely inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or convictions, but any and all credible claims.
• Two studies done at Arizona State University, one in 2012 and another in 2016, found similarly negligible rates of impersonation fraud. The project found 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud nationwide from 2000-2012. The follow-up study, which looked for fraud specifically in states where politicians have argued that fraud is a pernicious problem, found zero successful prosecutions for impersonation fraud in five states from 2012-2016.

Courts Agree: Fraud by Voters at the Polls is Nearly Non-Existent


Those Who Publicly Argue Voter Fraud is Rampant Have Found Scant Evidence of it When They Go Looking for It


Much more at link: [h=3]Debunking the Voter Fraud Myth [/h]

 

[SailaWay]

the CAT is out of the BAG... its now totally proven the whole system is RIGGED


we learned when ted cruz was so greedy he used his big oil money to buy off the delegates in colorado and other states to stop the will of the people.... so this made us see how if you have enough money you can use it to influence and stop the voters will

then we learned that the dnc had also set up that crooked system... and on top of that we learn that the dnc was working for a certain candidate against another

and we learn that the media is owned by globalist companies who works the system in the same way by being biased


a totally rigged system and last poll shows a record low trust in the media .. proving it may be too late to stop the SPREADING of the understanding of how corrupt the system and media are..

 

[ocean515]

It's exceedingly rare.
Studies Agree: Impersonation Fraud by Voters Very Rarely Happens

• The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.00004 percent and 0.0009 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”
• A study published by a Columbia University political scientist tracked incidence rates for voter fraud for two years, and found that the rare fraud that was reported generally could be traced to “false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error.”
• A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny number is likely inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or convictions, but any and all credible claims.
• Two studies done at Arizona State University, one in 2012 and another in 2016, found similarly negligible rates of impersonation fraud. The project found 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud nationwide from 2000-2012. The follow-up study, which looked for fraud specifically in states where politicians have argued that fraud is a pernicious problem, found zero successful prosecutions for impersonation fraud in five states from 2012-2016.

Courts Agree: Fraud by Voters at the Polls is Nearly Non-Existent


Those Who Publicly Argue Voter Fraud is Rampant Have Found Scant Evidence of it When They Go Looking for It


Much more at link: [h=3]Debunking the Voter Fraud Myth [/h]

The Brennen Center is a far left progressive operation with an agenda, so it's not a very good source for objective conclusions.

I think we will have to wait for further investigation in Colorado before the blanket dismissal of voter fraud by alt-lefters can carry any weight.

 

[Renae]

It's exceedingly rare.
Studies Agree: Impersonation Fraud by Voters Very Rarely Happens

• The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.00004 percent and 0.0009 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”
• A study published by a Columbia University political scientist tracked incidence rates for voter fraud for two years, and found that the rare fraud that was reported generally could be traced to “false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error.”
• A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny number is likely inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or convictions, but any and all credible claims.
• Two studies done at Arizona State University, one in 2012 and another in 2016, found similarly negligible rates of impersonation fraud. The project found 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud nationwide from 2000-2012. The follow-up study, which looked for fraud specifically in states where politicians have argued that fraud is a pernicious problem, found zero successful prosecutions for impersonation fraud in five states from 2012-2016.

Courts Agree: Fraud by Voters at the Polls is Nearly Non-Existent


Those Who Publicly Argue Voter Fraud is Rampant Have Found Scant Evidence of it When They Go Looking for It


Much more at link: [h=3]Debunking the Voter Fraud Myth [/h]

Left leaning "advocacy" center at a left leaning college says "Voter fraud aint' a problem!"

 

[SailaWay]

Left leaning "advocacy" center at a left leaning college says "Voter fraud aint' a problem!"

who wants low IQ's to vote??? yep only crooks.... and this is the liberals and the media

 

[PeteEU]

I see Trump people are laying the ground work for a defeat.. by blaming the election system and fraud.. media and others..

 

[Renae]

I see Trump people are laying the ground work for a defeat.. by blaming the election system and fraud.. media and others..

Pete, I read that in the EU, it's not the voters that matter but who counts the votes, is that true?

 

[haymarket]

The Brennen Center is a far left progressive operation with an agenda, so it's not a very good source for objective conclusions.

I think we will have to wait for further investigation in Colorado before the blanket dismissal of voter fraud by alt-lefters can carry any weight.

What is wrong with their data?

For example, this on the allegations about 2000 in Missouri

The Rate of Substantiated Voter Fraud:
• The allegations of fraud related to the 2000 general election, in which 124,752 votes were cast in St. Louis City, 497,577 votes were cast in St. Louis County, and 2,361,586 votes were cast in all of Missouri.181
• There were 6 substantiated cases of Missouri votes cast by ineligible voters, knowingly or unknowingly, ex- cept for those votes permitted by court order. These six cases were double votes by four voters – two across state lines and two within Missouri. This amounts to a rate of 0.0003%. None of these problems could have been resolved by requiring photo ID at the polls.
• Even given allegations that were unsubstantiated, the rate of possible fraud remains low. The analysis above lays out the allegations, reasons to question each, and the facts that we now know. But assum- ing that all 278 of the remaining questionable allegations—including 14 voters with allegedly inval- id addresses, 114 allegedly ineligible persons with felony convictions, 68 allegedly double voters (at two votes apiece), and 14 votes in the names of allegedly deceased individuals—in fact represent ineligible votes, that would amount to a rate of 0.045% within St. Louis City and County and 0.012% within the state as a whole. If all 14 votes in the names of allegedly deceased individuals in fact proved fraud- ulent and were cast in person, these votes—0.002% within St. Louis City and County and 0.0006% within the state as a whole—might possibly have been resolved by requiring photo ID at the polls.

Where is their data wrong?

 

[SailaWay]

I see Trump people are laying the ground work for a defeat.. by blaming the election system and fraud.. media and others..

do voters have the lowest IQ's on record? are unwise voters easier to fool?.. the REAL POWER will soon stop that harmful system ,, trump may be the leader of the REAL POWER

 

[PeteEU]

Pete, I read that in the EU, it's not the voters that matter but who counts the votes, is that true?

No that is in Red states in the US.. /wave Florida. In the EU, we actually have checks and balances in our elections.. we trust the result.

 

[Renae]

No that is in Red states in the US.. /wave Florida. In the EU, we actually have checks and balances in our elections.. we trust the result.

Florida? Are you referring to teh 2000 election?

 

[SailaWay]

also what voter groups commit the most crime in LIFE?? and that will give the clue to who will work the fraud in voting

 

[ocean515]

What is wrong with their data?

For example, this on the allegations about 2000 in Missouri



Where is their data wrong?

It's considerably subjective. Have you read their report?

Here is an excerpt, which reveals their agenda.

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The%20Truth%20About%20Voter%20Fraud.pdf

These inflated claims are not harmless. Crying “wolf” when the allegations are unsubstantiated distracts attention from real problems that need real solutions. If we can move beyond the fixation on voter fraud, we will be able to focus on the real changes our elections need, from universal registration all the way down to sufficient parking at the poll site.​

The Brennen Center exists to provide material and content that follows an ideological imperative channeled by it's mission. In this case, their mission is to provide material and content that tries to shut the door on discussion about voter irregularities that have been discovered. Their reports are never specific, and they are mission and agenda driven, and should always be viewed in that manner.

As I wrote before, we will have to wait to see what the investigation reveals in Colorado. The Brennen Centers claims do not dismiss the issue as some "cry wolf" (as the BC puts it) effort.

 

[Paperview]

What is wrong with their data?

For example, this on the allegations about 2000 in Missouri



Where is their data wrong?

It isn't. That's why they have to discount the source.

And even the court cases where it was an issue...

• The Fifth Circuit, in an opinion finding that Texas’s strict photo ID law is racially discriminatory, noted that there were “only two convictions for in-person voter impersonation fraud out of 20 million votes cast in the decade” before Texas passed its law.
• In its opinion striking down North Carolina’s omnibus restrictive election law —which included a voter ID requirement — as purposefully racially discriminatory, the Fourth Circuit noted that the state “failed to identify even a single individual who has ever been charged with committing in-person voter fraud in North Carolina.”
• A federal trial court in Wisconsin reviewing that state’s strict photo ID law found “that impersonation fraud — the type of fraud that voter ID is designed to prevent — is extremely rare” and “a truly isolated phenomenon that has not posed a significant threat to the integrity of Wisconsin’s elections.”
• Even the Supreme Court, in its opinion in Crawford upholding Indiana’s voter ID law, noted that the record in the case “contains no evidence of any [in-person voter impersonation] fraud actually occurring in Indiana at any time in its history.” Two of the jurists who weighed in on that case at the time — Republican-appointed former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens and conservative appellate court Judge Richard Posner — have since announced they regret their votes in favor of the law, with Judge Posner noting that strict photo ID laws are “now widely regarded as a means of voter suppression rather than of fraud prevention.”

 

[Deuce]

Of course, it's just a clerical error. And the joke about Resurrection Day that sends Democrats into giggles is just their great sense of humor. And the fact that Democrats sue to keep voter fraud going isn't relevant, either. Didn't Oregon just go to an all mail-in ballot system to enhance the liberal lock on the state. Other states have unrestricted absentee ballots.

But, doesn't happen and when it does it's just a clerical error. It's why Melowese Richardson is a Democrat hero. I wonder if her being released from prison with less than a year served on her five-year sentence was a clerical error.

"CINCINNATI – A long-time poll worker who admitted to illegal voting was sentenced to five years in prison Wednesday and received a rebuke from the judge, who cited her criminal past.Melowese Richardson, 58, pleaded no contest to four counts of illegal voting in 2009, 2011 and 2012. One count charged her with voting for her sister, who is in a coma. Four other counts were dropped in exchange for Richardson’s plea.During a passionate sentencing speech, Hamilton County Judge Robert P. Ruehlman laid out a laundry list of past charges against Richardson – from witness harassment to theft to assault – as Richardson stood before him.That was only eight months ago. For some reason, she has already been released.At an event that was all about voting law, Ohio Democrats invited a person guilty of multiple counts of voter fraud to speak – to “welcome her back” and applaud her.They invited her up to the stage, like some sort of hero."
Woman Convicted of Voter Fraud Honored by Ohio Democrats - Breitbart

Do you not understand the word "rare" or are you just skipping over the whole "read posts" part.

 

[Deuce]

It's considerably subjective. Have you read their report?

Here is an excerpt, which reveals their agenda.

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The%20Truth%20About%20Voter%20Fraud.pdf

These inflated claims are not harmless. Crying “wolf” when the allegations are unsubstantiated distracts attention from real problems that need real solutions. If we can move beyond the fixation on voter fraud, we will be able to focus on the real changes our elections need, from universal registration all the way down to sufficient parking at the poll site.​

The Brennen Center exists to provide material and content that follows an ideological imperative channeled by it's mission. In this case, their mission is to provide material and content that tries to shut the door on discussion about voter irregularities that have been discovered. Their reports are never specific, and they are mission and agenda driven, and should always be viewed in that manner.

As I wrote before, we will have to wait to see what the investigation reveals in Colorado. The Brennen Centers claims do not dismiss the issue as some "cry wolf" (as the BC puts it) effort.

So, no actual part of the data is wrong. Got it.

 

[Paperview]

It's considerably subjective. Have you read their report?

Here is an excerpt, which reveals their agenda.

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The%20Truth%20About%20Voter%20Fraud.pdf

These inflated claims are not harmless. Crying “wolf” when the allegations are unsubstantiated distracts attention from real problems that need real solutions. If we can move beyond the fixation on voter fraud, we will be able to focus on the real changes our elections need, from universal registration all the way down to sufficient parking at the poll site.​

The Brennen Center exists to provide material and content that follows an ideological imperative channeled by it's mission. In this case, their mission is to provide material and content that tries to shut the door on discussion about voter irregularities that have been discovered. Their reports are never specific, and they are mission and agenda driven, and should always be viewed in that manner.

As I wrote before, we will have to wait to see what the investigation reveals in Colorado. The Brennen Centers claims do not dismiss the issue as some "cry wolf" (as the BC puts it) effort.

That's certainly devastating. Universal registration...and more parking spaces! The horror.

Hey O -- You seem to think these people at the NYU School of Law are fudging the numbers. Puzzle me this: If there are other fraud cases to be found that were successfully prosecuted, beyond what they show -- why aren't the people making these allegations producing them?

 

[ocean515]

So, no actual part of the data is wrong. Got it.

LOL

You get very little Deuce. Like the Brennen Center, you only get what you chose to look at.

 

[ocean515]

That's certainly devastating. Universal registration...and more parking spaces! The horror.

Hey O -- You seem to think these people at the NYU School of Law are fudging the numbers. Puzzle me this: If there are other fraud cases to be found that were successfully prosecuted, beyond what they show -- why aren't the people making these allegations producing them?

Perhaps it's the ideological blinders you filter things with, or perhaps it's something else that distorts your comprehension of what you read.

I wrote the Brennen Center has an agenda. It exists to promote that agenda.

As a result of it's mission and the effort to promote the agenda that mission represents, it applies SUBJECTIVE analysis to it's studies and includes those subjective results to it's reports. Based solely on the selected information and filters they apply, the results are accurate. So I have not said they fudge their numbers.