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Virginia expresses 'profound regret' for slavery

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Virginia expresses 'profound regret' for slavery

Virginia legislators vote unanimously to officially voice state's remorse for role in enslaving Africans in America.


By Bob Deans
WASHINGTON BUREAU
Sunday, February 25, 2007


WASHINGTON — The Virginia General Assembly voted unanimously to express "profound regret" Saturday for slavery and the exploitation of Native Americans, four centuries after the state gave birth to both ills in America.

The House approved the measure on a 97-0 roll-call vote Saturday in Richmond, and the Senate followed suit with a voice vote.

The expression of remorse, said by Virginia legislators to be the first of its kind in the country, comes ahead of commemorations in May of the 400th anniversary of the first permanent English settlement in America, at Jamestown in 1607.

"The General Assembly hereby acknowledge with profound regret the involuntary servitude of Africans and the exploitation of Native Americans and call for reconciliation among all Virginians," the resolution states. "The moral standards of liberty and equality have been transgressed during much of Virginia's and America's history."

The resolution calls slavery "the most horrendous of all depredations of human rights and violations of our founding ideals in our nation's history."

The resolution concedes that "the most abject apology for past wrongs cannot right them; yet the spirit of true repentance on behalf of a government, and, through it, a people, can promote reconciliation and healing."

The bill's chief patron in the House, A. Donald McEachin, 45, is the great-grandson of a North Carolina slave who moved to Virginia after the Civil War.

McEachin, a Democrat, said his office has been contacted by aides from legislatures in Mississippi, Maryland and Missouri — states that also had slavery — and the National Conference of State Legislatures, all expressing interest in passing similar resolutions.

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The first Africans arrived near Jamestown in chains in 1619 when a Dutch ship sold the Virginia colonists 20 people stolen from their homes near present-day Angola.

By the Civil War, there were 4 million slaves in the United States, and half a million of them were in Virginia. Decades after slaves were free, Virginia remained ardently segregationist, responding to a 1954 U.S. Supreme Court desegregation ruling with massive resistance and even closing public schools.

"It may have been the cradle of democracy, but it was also the cradle of slavery," said Roger Wilkins, professor of history and American culture at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va. "It's a state that's standing on that mixed history and making apologies for its past. That's a good thing for it to do."

Virginia legislators struggled for weeks over the resolution's precise wording, rejecting a formal apology and turning back efforts to include words such as "atonement" or "contrition," because some lawmakers sought to avoid any sentiment that might open the door to reparations."

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What say you?

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I think as long as it's "The State" and not "The people" of Virginia apologizing this might actually be a good thing....

How do you accept this kind of apology though?
 
How do you accept this kind of apology though?

I was taught, and still fundamentally believe (although perhaps it's just the latent Catholic in me coming to the fore) that a verbal "apology", in the absence of any attempt at atonement, is more of an insult than anything.
In this case, it's particularly insulting, because legislators apparently went to such pains to word this so-called "apology" in such a way that it could never, in the future, pave the way to them having to make any actual restitution.
Words ring hollow when they are not matched by actions.
An apology that is not supplemented with an offer of atonement or even a commitment to change or do anything differently in the future is nothing more than what is referred to, in the Mĭn Nán dialect, as "ha pi": breathing out farts.
 
I was taught, and still fundamentally believe (although perhaps it's just the latent Catholic in me coming to the fore) that a verbal "apology", in the absence of any attempt at atonement, is more of an insult than anything.
In this case, it's particularly insulting, because legislators apparently went to such pains to word this so-called "apology" in such a way that it could never, in the future, pave the way to them having to make any actual restitution.
Words ring hollow when they are not matched by actions.
An apology that is not supplemented with an offer of atonement or even a commitment to change or do anything differently in the future is nothing more than what is referred to, in the Mĭn Nán dialect, as "ha pi": breathing out farts.

I disagree. People today can't be held responsible for what people did in the past unless they are the very same people. Saying you look back on a certain part of history with shame and regret is not saying you should be held accountable for it or saying you are to blame for it but it's recognizing officially that you regret that such atrocities happened and you officially condemn past acts vs. not saying anything which may be viewed as condoning the past. I certainly don't view it as an empty gesture myself but I was always one of those who believed it's the "thought that counts," obviously others want gifts.
 
I was taught, and still fundamentally believe (although perhaps it's just the latent Catholic in me coming to the fore) that a verbal "apology", in the absence of any attempt at atonement, is more of an insult than anything.

Not at all. It's basically just a way for the state to admit that they were wrong. I think it's a good thing; I wish that our country and states (as well as other countries) would apologize for more atrocities in their past. It's just a way of saying that we've moved past that.

1069 said:
In this case, it's particularly insulting, because legislators apparently went to such pains to word this so-called "apology" in such a way that it could never, in the future, pave the way to them having to make any actual restitution.

And why should they? No one alive today was ever a slave under the legal authority of Virginia. Paying restitution to their descendants for this "disadvantage" makes no sense...surely EVERYONE has some ancestors who were disadvantaged in some way.
 
It's sad that we must rely on time to dilute the matters today in order to relieve any responsibilities.
America does it towards slavery as well as the Native American population. Japan does it towards all the countries she invaded. Britain, Germany, France, all the european powers none of which are exempt, well, maybe the Swiss.
I would like America to stand up in the leadership roll to making amends for the past. Unfortunately the bigotry against minorities is still very much alive and well today. It's just muttered behind closed doors as opposed to in front of the screen as it once was.
Virgina's step is a good one, I wish all states come forward to make such statements and really address the issues that are still prevalent in our society today.
 
Japan does it towards all the countries she invaded. .

I think the difference between America and Japan is that America admits it's made mistakes. Japan on the other hand has chosen to act like nothing happened or they make their role in WWII seem smaller then it actually was. They deny the Nanking Massacre and their history textbooks are about a stonethrow away from completely denying that Japan was even involved in WWII.

Japanese history textbook controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I think the difference between America and Japan is that America admits it's made mistakes. Japan on the other hand has chosen to act like nothing happened or they make their role in WWII seem smaller then it actually was. They deny the Nanking Massacre and their history textbooks are about a stonethrow away from completely denying that Japan was even involved in WWII.

Japanese history textbook controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I was trying to establish a contrast of how modern industrialized nations have a past that's not so pretty.
Yet Japan's denial is horrid and ridiculous to anyone that has read "The Rape of Nanking" - Iris Chang; would understand this.
But Japan is a whole different story that gets my blood boiling, so let's not get started on it.
 
It's sad that we must rely on time to dilute the matters today in order to relieve any responsibilities.
America does it towards slavery as well as the Native American population. Japan does it towards all the countries she invaded. Britain, Germany, France, all the european powers none of which are exempt, well, maybe the Swiss.
I would like America to stand up in the leadership roll to making amends for the past. Unfortunately the bigotry against minorities is still very much alive and well today. It's just muttered behind closed doors as opposed to in front of the screen as it once was.
Virgina's step is a good one, I wish all states come forward to make such statements and really address the issues that are still prevalent in our society today.

My point is that as long as systematic racism still exists in America, what's the point of issuing meaningless "apologies"? It's an empty gesture.
Do something to eliminate the systematic racism, or at least commit to trying to eliminating it at some point in the future, or at least just acknowledge it... and then maybe the "apology" would mean something. Or maybe, it wouldn't even be necessary. It isn't really helpful, from a pragmatic standpoint. But there are things that would be, and we're not doing them, nor even planning to.
 
My point is that as long as systematic racism still exists in America, what's the point of issuing meaningless "apologies"? It's an empty gesture.
You must have missed the whole part where we outlawed slavery as a nation. :roll:
 
My point is that as long as systematic racism still exists in America, what's the point of issuing meaningless "apologies"? It's an empty gesture.
Do something to eliminate the systematic racism, or at least commit to trying to eliminating it at some point in the future, or at least just acknowledge it... and then maybe the "apology" would mean something. Or maybe, it wouldn't even be necessary. It isn't really helpful, from a pragmatic standpoint. But there are things that would be, and we're not doing them, nor even planning to.
I agree with most of what you said except the empty gesture portion. Governmentally issued apologies are not empty gestures. Reparations and compensations are to be made in such instances. source
An example that apologies are not empty would be the vatican issuing apologies towards Galileo and so on.
 
I agree with most of what you said except the empty gesture portion. Governmentally issued apologies are not empty gestures. Reparations and compensations are to be made in such instances. source
An example that apologies are not empty would be the vatican issuing apologies towards Galileo and so on.

Hey... good point. ;)
 
...............................................I guess everything is OK now. With or without this senseless and insignificant apology on Saturday, men, black and white, feel the same on Monday as they did on Friday.

Thank you so much Virginia for spreading the rainbow and making the world a better place for apologizing for something that the Civil War ended 147 years ago. Now, if we can muster up enough strength we can tackle the Crusades next.:roll:
 
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