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Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

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Here is the part of the article that inspired me:

MURFREESBORO, Tenn. -- Mark West believes in freedom of religion.

That belief brought West out Monday night to a candlelight vigil in support of local Muslims in front of the Rutherford County Courthouse.

It also inspired the lifelong Baptist to make a donation to the building fund for a new mosque near Murfreesboro.

"I'm going down to Islamic Center of Nashville tomorrow and make a $100 donation," West said Monday night. "One hundred bucks is hard to come by these days, but it's a statement."
God bless you, Mark. You represent Christianity well. Thank you.

On the other hand, no Muslims showed up for this event. Right now, they are pretty frightened, and YES, there IS a parallel. I remember the 1960's, when black men and women didn't show up to register to vote, out of fear for their lives. The Civil Rights struggle did not end with the defeat of Jim Crow. It will be a never ending war against hatred, ignorance, and mobs of people who would be more comfortable brandishing pitchforks and burning witches, while at the same time praising a Jesus Christ who is thinking "WTF, I never taught that"!!

Who says that it is only Muslims who commit terrorism? The dark side of human nature is in all of us, and religion is no delimiter. Hatred knows no religious boundary, and neither does terrorism.

Article is here.

Additional note: Today, the FBI officially ruled the fire as arson, basing that decision on lab reports showing that accelerants were used in setting the fire.
 
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Oh yes Dan.

Think of all the senseless attacks on Muslims by those evil Christians!

Oh wait....

Once again your false generalizations and unsupported comments ring true. One incident does not give you the right to spit on the American Christian community as a whole or rediculusly compare this to the civil rights movement of the 60s. African Americans didn't blow up buildings in the name of their religion.

Stop the false allegations and mindless generalizations.
 
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The reason the muslims didn't show up is they were plotting terrorist things on some barn in Tennessee duh.
 

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The reason the muslims didn't show up is they were plotting terrorist things on some barn in Tennessee duh.
Yeah John. That's exactly what I said. :roll:

And click on "My Profile" then click on "Edit Profile" and scroll down to the bottom to "political leaning" and make yourself honest.
 
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Here is the part of the article that inspired me:



God bless you, Mark. You represent Christianity well. Thank you.

On the other hand, no Muslims showed up for this event. Right now, they are pretty frightened, and YES, there IS a parallel. I remember the 1960's, when black men and women didn't show up to register to vote, out of fear for their lives. The Civil Rights struggle did not end with the defeat of Jim Crow. It will be a never ending war against hatred, ignorance, and mobs of people who would be more comfortable brandishing pitchforks and burning witches, while at the same time praising a Jesus Christ who is thinking "WTF, I never taught that"!!

Who says that it is only Muslims who commit terrorism? The dark side of human nature is in all of us, and religion is no delimiter. Hatred knows no religious boundary, and neither does terrorism.

Article is here.

Additional note: Today, the FBI officially ruled the fire as arson, basing that decision on lab reports showing that accelerants were used in setting the fire.

Ya know what? 150 idiots showed up. 150 MORONS showed up.

That's the story here. Until there is PROOF of who started the fire, and what their motivation was...

This is politically correct IDIOCY at it's... "finest". It's almost gut wrenching to see people get so worked up to prove their "Open minded tolerant and compassionate" that they post threads like this, making grandiose parallels to historical events which the parallels are rather slim, and the evidence to link the two events. What makes the OP even more disingenuous, is the attempt to claim this is an act of terrorism.

Without a suspect, without a motive, it's folly to go down this road. Dan's smart enough to know this, hence I contend he started this thread, with such "explosive" rhetoric just to troll for reaction. Congrats Dan. I implore people to either not respond to this thread, and/or to report him for an obvious trolling ploy.
 

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Why do we have to make every issue a struggle of civilization and religion. The issue in Tennessee isn't one of Christianity vs. Islam or East vs. West or Us vs. them, its a LOCAL issue, let the locals slove it. Of course to see this issue in a way that isn't global and world changing one has to believe that all Muslims aren't the same people.
 

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Why do we have to make every issue a struggle of civilization and religion. The issue in Tennessee isn't one of Christianity vs. Islam or East vs. West or Us vs. them, its a LOCAL issue, let the locals slove it. Of course to see this issue in a way that isn't global and world changing one has to believe that all Muslims aren't the same people.

I don't believe it is those opposing the GZ mosque that are fanning out across the country opposing all mosques is it? You know, except for the liberal froth at the mouth, word twisters like Olberman, Matthews, and Maddow plus more, I think IT IS a local thing. But they won't let it be.


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Why do we have to make every issue a struggle of civilization and religion. The issue in Tennessee isn't one of Christianity vs. Islam or East vs. West or Us vs. them, its a LOCAL issue, let the locals slove it. Of course to see this issue in a way that isn't global and world changing one has to believe that all Muslims aren't the same people.
I respectfully disagree with you. Yes, let the locals work on it, and it is my belief that they will do a good job. And so will the FBI. In fact, the FBI is working the case now, and I agree with that. That this is a crime worthy of being investigated as a hate crime is beyond any doubt. As previously reported as far back as June:

We have a duty to investigate anyone under the banner of Islam," Allen Jackson, the pastor of World Outreach Church, said at the meeting.
"I found out when the sign came up," said Murfreesboro resident Mark Walker, whose home is near the site of the proposed mosque. "We are fighting these people, for crying out loud, we should not be promoting this."
"They seem to be against everything I believe in, and so I don't want them necessarily in my neighborhood," said local resident Stan Whiteway.
The atmosphere was very ripe for this to happen, and the outrage against a mosque being built is very real.

Just last week, my former boss' brother in Iran was sentenced by the Mullahs to 20 years in prison. They would have executed him had there not been a lot of pressure from the world community, including the State Department. His crime was practicing the Baha'i' religion. I don't believe in Islam, but I will be damned if I am going to act like the Mullahs do and deny ANYBODY the right to practice their religion. I will always strongly support the rights of AMERICAN Muslims to build their mosques, and to practice their religion peacefully.

I hereby stand by what I posted in this thread.
 

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I respectfully disagree with you. Yes, let the locals work on it, and it is my belief that they will do a good job. And so will the FBI. In fact, the FBI is working the case now, and I agree with that. That this is a crime worthy of being investigated as a hate crime is beyond any doubt. As previously reported as far back as June:







The atmosphere was very ripe for this to happen, and the outrage against a mosque being built is very real.

Just last week, my former boss' brother in Iran was sentenced by the Mullahs to 20 years in prison. They would have executed him had there not been a lot of pressure from the world community, including the State Department. His crime was practicing the Baha'i' religion. I don't believe in Islam, but I will be damned if I am going to act like the Mullahs do and deny ANYBODY the right to practice their religion. I will always strongly support the rights of AMERICAN Muslims to build their mosques, and to practice their religion peacefully.

I hereby stand by what I posted in this thread.
Who here is against this Mosque? No one.

Do you have proof this fire had anything to do with hate?

No, you do not.

You are just making up justification for the melodrama you are posting with hopes that it will create a many page long thread for you to "prove how tolerant" you are.

I really do hope, they find that the people behind the Mosque, started this fire, it would serve to put you in your place.
 

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Who here is against this Mosque? No one.

Do you have proof this fire had anything to do with hate?

No, you do not.

You are just making up justification for the melodrama you are posting with hopes that it will create a many page long thread for you to "prove how tolerant" you are.

I really do hope, they find that the people behind the Mosque, started this fire, it would serve to put you in your place.
Who is against the Mosque? Plenty of people. Does it have anything to do with hate? Sure it does, and I am going to show you. The fire is not the first time that acts of vandalism have been committed against the site of the mosque.

Here is an article about the sign being vandalized with hate grafitti, before the fire was set. BTW, this was the second time this happened.

Here is an act of vandalism that happed in January of this year.

Here is a photo of a mosque in Nashville, after being vandalized. This isn't hate?


But what could spark such events? Could it be people who carry signs that say "Mosque leaders support killing converts"? No, that's not hate either, you say? Or could it be people saying that the Muslims in Tennessee are linked to terrorists? No, you don't need to say anything here. I already know. There's no hate here. Only love. Right? And let's not forget good ole' bigot Pat Robertson, who publicly stated that Muslims could bribe city officials to allow them to build their mosque. He said all that out of love, right? And the protests? They have been more than nasty. One man at the protests stated his view very succinctly, by yelling the following at a Muslim woman:

I know, I know. He loves her, and wants to marry her, right?

Against this backdrop, any reasonable man or woman can deduce that the arson was, in fact, a hate crime. The FBI is not ruling it a hate crime yet, until they have identified the suspects. But the fact that they are even there points to this as one, since the FBI does not investigate ordinary cases of arson.

You just can't say that there is no hatred in Tennessee against Muslims. Hate crimes against Muslims were already committed, even long before this arson, as demonstrated in my links above. But you know, some people will go out of their way to say otherwise. Many years ago, here in Texas, some KKK'ers weighted a black man down with chains, then threw him in a lake, where he drowned. When they were caught, they denied doing it, saying "Just like a nigger. Steal more chains than he can swim with". Poor guys, they just loved that black man so much.
 
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I respectfully disagree with you. Yes, let the locals work on it, and it is my belief that they will do a good job. And so will the FBI. In fact, the FBI is working the case now, and I agree with that. That this is a crime worthy of being investigated as a hate crime is beyond any doubt. As previously reported as far back as June:







The atmosphere was very ripe for this to happen, and the outrage against a mosque being built is very real.

Just last week, my former boss' brother in Iran was sentenced by the Mullahs to 20 years in prison. They would have executed him had there not been a lot of pressure from the world community, including the State Department. His crime was practicing the Baha'i' religion. I don't believe in Islam, but I will be damned if I am going to act like the Mullahs do and deny ANYBODY the right to practice their religion. I will always strongly support the rights of AMERICAN Muslims to build their mosques, and to practice their religion peacefully.

I hereby stand by what I posted in this thread.

What you did here is beyond insulting comparing this crap to the civil rights movement.

#1 you still have ZERO evidence this was committed by any Christian

You did what you typically do. You jump to a conclusion with no evidence to support yourself and fall end over end in the world of political corectness and hoping someone will save you from your false comparison.

No white horse is coming Dan. Your comparison is flat out insulting to the thousands of people who fought for equal rights for blacks and women in the 60s.

Even if this is Arson the comparison is beyond insulting because Blacks and Women did not commit terrorist acts and religion was NEVER cited to support their justification for equal rights.
 
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I don't trust anyone who doesn't understand that there is no such thing as Islam being a Religion of Peace.

First it's Cult that teaches hate the killing of the innocent and the subjugation of women and of course anyone who will not willingly convert to being one of them.

As a Muslim ass long as you are doing it for Allah anything goes and you will be forgiven for ANYTHING YOU DO!

That my friends is a cult. It would be nice for all of them to have a Kool Aid Party, to that I would donate $100.

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything!
 

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What you did here is beyond insulting comparing this crap to the civil rights movement.

#1 you still have ZERO evidence this was committed by any Christian

You did what you typically do. You jump to a conclusion with no evidence to support yourself and fall end over end in the world of political corectness and hoping someone will save you from your false comparison.

No white horse is coming Dan. Your comparison is flat out insulting to the thousands of people who fought for equal rights for blacks and women in the 60s.

Even if this is Arson the comparison is beyond insulting because Blacks and Women did not commit terrorist acts and religion was NEVER cited to support their justification for equal rights.
It is not insulting at all, since it is their civil rights that are now being violated. And these Muslims never committed terrorist acts either. For you to say that they do, or support terrorism, without any proof, is total justification for a thread like this.
 

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It is not insulting at all, since it is their civil rights that are now being violated. And these Muslims never committed terrorist acts either. For you to say that they do, or support terrorism, without any proof, is total justification for a thread like this.
Stop lying Dan. I never EVER said these Muslims in Tennessee support terrorism. You are lying and you need to stop it.

By type casting civil rights as any form of vandalism deludes the very essence of that fight.

I'll say it again. You have ZERO evidence the people that did this are Christian. I see you ducked that again. What a shocker.

Its insulting and lazy to conclude facts you don't have and to combine that with lying about my positions shows everyone how low you will go.
 

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Who says that it is only Muslims who commit terrorism? The dark side of human nature is in all of us, and religion is no delimiter. Hatred knows no religious boundary, and neither does terrorism.

I don't think anybody has ever said this. But what you stated is more of a bumper sticker line than a wise truth.

After all, would it be proper to declare such things during the European time of Christian religious upheaval in the 16th century? Would it help to sooth the truth of European Chrisitian violence by pointing out that Muslims can be bad too? Hell no. We are all about pointing out the obvious of the 16th and 17th century and stating that Christianity had a fundamental problem that needed worked out. Self-flagillation is almost a career choice these days.

Now fast forward to the last few centuries. Islamic turmoil has slaughtered and massacred their own across northern Africa into eastern Asia. Today, even their most horrific terrorist organization target and kill far more Muslims of other tribes than the westerners they profess to hate. Al-Queda's target of 3,000 Americans on our soil pales in comparison to the hundreds of thousands of fellow Muslims they have killed over the last two decades. In a century where their most profound leaders pointed towards the West as Allah's enemy, they still target their own on a grand scale. Yet, we refuse to call this what it is? Why is this? Are we so afraid to face this honestly for fear of coming off our high horses that we are willing to sooth their very obvious internal problems by making bland and boring statements that "religion is no delimiter?" We may as well drag Buddhism through the mud as well in a grand quest to pat Islam on the back. In the end, I guess the intention is to make our enemies see us for our politically correct goodness and forget their religious convictions and hug us in brotherhood.

I just don't get it.
 

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Who is against the Mosque? Plenty of people. Does it have anything to do with hate? Sure it does, and I am going to show you. The fire is not the first time that acts of vandalism have been committed against the site of the mosque.

Here is an article about the sign being vandalized with hate grafitti, before the fire was set. BTW, this was the second time this happened.

Here is an act of vandalism that happed in January of this year.

Here is a photo of a mosque in Nashville, after being vandalized. This isn't hate?


But what could spark such events? Could it be people who carry signs that say "Mosque leaders support killing converts"? No, that's not hate either, you say? Or could it be people saying that the Muslims in Tennessee are linked to terrorists? No, you don't need to say anything here. I already know. There's no hate here. Only love. Right? And let's not forget good ole' bigot Pat Robertson, who publicly stated that Muslims could bribe city officials to allow them to build their mosque. He said all that out of love, right? And the protests? They have been more than nasty. One man at the protests stated his view very succinctly, by yelling the following at a Muslim woman:


I know, I know. He loves her, and wants to marry her, right?

Against this backdrop, any reasonable man or woman can deduce that the arson was, in fact, a hate crime. The FBI is not ruling it a hate crime yet, until they have identified the suspects. But the fact that they are even there points to this as one, since the FBI does not investigate ordinary cases of arson.

You just can't say that there is no hatred in Tennessee against Muslims. Hate crimes against Muslims were already committed, even long before this arson, as demonstrated in my links above. But you know, some people will go out of their way to say otherwise. Many years ago, here in Texas, some KKK'ers weighted a black man down with chains, then threw him in a lake, where he drowned. When they were caught, they denied doing it, saying "Just like a nigger. Steal more chains than he can swim with". Poor guys, they just loved that black man so much.
What amazes me is how people react to this. They all act as if this is unheard of in America. You, yourself, seem shocked. It would be helpful for people to step back and recognize that none of this is new. Not all Americans were onboard in regards to women's emancipation or their right to vote. Not all Americans were onboard with Civil Rights and race equality. Not all Americans were willing to look the other way in regards to the Japanese or German in their midst during World War II. Congressional hearings were publicized for celebrities and politicians in regards to their national loyalties and pssible communist ties during the Cold War. Yet, Americans percevered and moved on.

Today's war against certain Muslims has ignited the same old American awareness of the people in their midst. You can't chalk it up to a pure hate crime, because were it not for 9/11 this wouldn't have happened. Nobody gave any Muslims a second thought in America until 9/11. Hell, Washington even refused to listen to a thing the military or the CIA had to say about anything Islamic throughout the 90s and all the way up to 9/10. In the end, they Americans will percevere, because the wonderful truth is that because of our oceans and strategic location on this earth, our immigrants tend to be of the more wealthy, educated, and talented. The radicals and extremists tend to be of the poor who can barely afford to drive across borders into Europe. This is why we haven't and will not see the problems Europe sees today. Most of the idiots that have sought to become Islamic extremists are those who have converted or immediate descendents of immigrated parents and now feel like they owe loyalty to something that has nothing to do with them. In other words, the fake Muslims (prisons are full of them) or the confused ones that have no immediate tie to the region. A wave of Italian and Irish immigrants met with friction in New York, yet they live peacefully in the U.S. today. The same is true for Germans and Japanese. Muslims will be the same, because in the end, we do not ethnically cleanse and the opposition to other people never lasts beyond the immediate national threat.

But this does not mean that all Americans will immediately embrace the face or the religion or the culture of the obvious enemy abroad.
 
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Here is the part of the article that inspired me:



God bless you, Mark. You represent Christianity well. Thank you.

On the other hand, no Muslims showed up for this event. Right now, they are pretty frightened, and YES, there IS a parallel. I remember the 1960's, when black men and women didn't show up to register to vote, out of fear for their lives. The Civil Rights struggle did not end with the defeat of Jim Crow. It will be a never ending war against hatred, ignorance, and mobs of people who would be more comfortable brandishing pitchforks and burning witches, while at the same time praising a Jesus Christ who is thinking "WTF, I never taught that"!!

Who says that it is only Muslims who commit terrorism? The dark side of human nature is in all of us, and religion is no delimiter. Hatred knows no religious boundary, and neither does terrorism.

Article is here.

Additional note: Today, the FBI officially ruled the fire as arson, basing that decision on lab reports showing that accelerants were used in setting the fire.
Was it really 150 or will aerial estimations prove it was only 70?
 

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Like Mark I also believe in freedom of religion. Where I part ways with him is I do not believe Islam is a religion. IMO it is an evil death cult whos prophet was a murderer, rapist, thief, pedophile, and a lier.
 
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Was it really 150 or will aerial estimations prove it was only 70?
FOX News may very well be hiring the same team that CBS used last week. LOL. :mrgreen:
 

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If I knew about this I would have attended.
 

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Like Mark I also believe in freedom of religion. Where I part ways with him is I do not believe Islam is a religion. IMO it is an evil cult.
Well, all the religions tend to be cultish. Can we really pretend otherwise with Catholics and some Protestants when they perform certain rituals to celebrate God? Think about communion, pointy hats, robes, and hands waving in the air behavior.

Islam is not a problem in the U.S. It is a problem in the Middle East and exponentially growing in Europe. You have to step back and look at these matters more clearly bro.
 

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Well, all the religions tend to be cultish. Can we really pretend otherwise with Catholics and some Protestants when they perform certain rituals to celebrate God? Think about communion, pointy hats, robes, and hands waving in the air behavior.

Islam is not a problem in the U.S. It is a problem in the Middle East and exponentially growing in Europe. You have to step back and look at these matters more clearly bro.
Islam is becoming a problem in the US. Sharia is creeping into our legal system. Its only a matter of time. As the muslim population increases do to birth rate and immigration so will sharia and all the evil it brings. As long as Americans bury thier heads in the sand they will continue to use our freedoms against us.
 

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Islam is becoming a problem in the US. Sharia is creeping into our legal system. Its only a matter of time. As the muslim population increases do to birth rate and immigration so will sharia and all the evil it brings. As long as Americans bury thier heads in the sand they will continue to use our freedoms against us.
Do you any proof that "Sharia is creeping into our legal system"?
 

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The greatest generation knew exactly what they were doing when they placed Japanese Americans in internment camps. We have lost our collective kahones. We are spinless and our enemies know this. They are laughing at us because we are so weak.
 

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Islam is becoming a problem in the US. Sharia is creeping into our legal system. Its only a matter of time. As the muslim population increases do to birth rate and immigration so will sharia and all the evil it brings. As long as Americans bury thier heads in the sand they will continue to use our freedoms against us.
Actually, it's the other way around. Some Americans are the ones repressing the freedoms of other Americans, and that is not acceptable. Constitutionally speaking, they are not free to deny other Americans the same rights they have. That is known as a criminal act.
 
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