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So is being knifed, shot, raped, robbed, or murdered. And before the NYPD began its stop-and-frisk policy these were all too common in some areas of the city.
Me, too, but in this case why don't we just wait until all the facts are in before we come to conclusions (other than the fact that Mr. George used poor judgment when he resisted). Meanwhile:
Neither should we tolerate uncivil behavior on the part of citizens. You can't demand freedom without accepting the responsibility that goes with it.
Well, no, Mr. George started it when he wouldn't submit to being cuffed. In the old days he would have been knocked unconscious with a blackjack plainclothes officers kept on their person.
But for what?
The cop starts pushing, the cop starts throwing punches.
An NYPD officer caught on cellphone footage trying to subdue a knife-wielding Harlem man appears to have clearly followed protocol, sources told The Post on Friday.
“The video actually helps the cop,” said a source familiar with the department’s Internal Affairs Bureau probe into Officer Jean Francisco.
“The perp was told to place his hands behind his back, and he adamantly refused. He was demonstrating active physical resisting,” the source said.
Another police source said the footage shows Francisco (the officer) was not the aggressor and that he remained in a “defensive stance” while under attack from suspect Saykou George, 30.
Finally, a video proves that hero cop did the right thing | New York Post
But for what? The cop starts pushing, the cop starts throwing punches. Before the citizen did anything. In any other situation, the one pushing and throwing punches first is the aggressor. The real question is, what did he do that he was being arrested?
Abuse by others doesn't justify abuse by authorities. We have constitutional rights intended to restrain the state from harassment without provocation.
There seems to be a massive chasm between what you consider uncivil behavior by citizens versus uncivil behavior by authorities.
He was arrested for possession of a knife. Apparently, the officer saw a knife dangling from his pocket.
Resisting arrest is nothing?
Liberal logic.
Possessing a knife is a crime? Man, not quite America anymore.
Many jurisdictions have restrictions on the type of knife a person can legally carry on their person. This is nothing new. Most of these laws go back decades.
Possessing a knife is a crime? Man, not quite America anymore.
In order to resist arrest, there must be something to arrest someone over. Duh
Fascist logic.
That doesn't make it not bull**** though. If there is not a victim it should NOT be a crime.
You as a citizen DO NOT have the right to resist arrest once an officer attempts to effect one, whether he's legally justified or not. If that were true, then ANYONE could resist arrest and just tell Hizzonor, "See, Judge, I didn't think he had the right to arrest me, so I resisted." :doh
Where's the abuse in this case? I don't see it. There was a simple solution: Don't break the law, and if you do and are caught, don't resist arrest. I only wish we could make stupidity a crime.
There is a massive chasm. The authorities generally don't run through neighborhoods knifing and shooting people, committing rapes, robberies, etc. I'd rather take my chances with the cops than the hoodlums.
Why? If you ask me law enforcement is just carrying out rules I never agreed to follow.
I want to punch people when they resist being thrown in my cage when I enforce a rule that I can't prove anyone agreed to follow. That's my dream.
Ahh the extremist libertarian anarchist, so young and naive.
That can be done in court very easily. Especially with technology where it is today. The whole incident was being filmed, at that point, he should have just complied with the officer and then take his evidence to court and make his case.
Why? All I have to do is become a cop and I can assault people just like this officer did. Hell, I can say it was because I suspected the guy had an illegal knife too. And why wouldn't the guy resist? The officer had a bull**** case, broke the law at least twice, and didn't really bother to explain himself.
In order to resist arrest, there must be something to arrest someone over. Duh
Fascist logic.
Huh huh. Yes, that's what cops are all about, you got it figured out. I bet you're the first guy calling the cops cause your neighbor is dumping leaves on your lawn!
While you call it fascist logic...I call it liberal logic. Its liberal policies that are getting people ****ed with, its liberal policies that made the arrest justified, duh. Unintended consequences are the mother****er, arent they lib?
While you call it fascist logic...I call it liberal logic. Its liberal policies that are getting people ****ed with, its liberal policies that made the arrest justified, duh. Unintended consequences are the mother****er, arent they lib?
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