You do realize the government can arrest you for any reason they dream up, right?
I think it's kind of telling that when I say I don't consent to being assaulted the statist says I will be assaulted anyway and probably raped in their prison. Yes statists, the way you should defend the state is to support assault and then to support the state failing to protect inmates from rape. I swear you guys couldn't argue your position any worse.
Yeah, I realize that. I once got arrested for telling a cop not to tell me to shut up. This was after an off-duty employee at a fast-food restaurant called the cops when I told her to f-off after she kept interrupting me when I was attempting to voice a complaint with the restaurant manager. Four squad cars, including a police captain, showed up. The captain then threatened to arrest my wife when she asked him not to arrest me. I kid you not. Did I resist after the cop said he was arresting me? No. I learned from that experience that when a cop tells you to keep your trap shut you should probably listen to him. Happily, I've never been arrested since.
I've been pretty much ignoring your anti-government diatribes up to now, but I'm thinking...what the heck, I'll chime in.
Regardless your hyperbole about being searched or not consenting to laws, it's really not about "statists" at all. It's about society. Ours has set some codified rules and, for the most part, people abide by those rules because it makes life and living together easier for all of us. We also enable members of society to enforce those rules.
Now...that guy in the video resisted the enforcers and they dealt with him in a reasonable manner. That's about all there was to that event.
For you, though, I suspect that, for all your blustery talk here on this forum, you tend to follow the rules society has established. I also suspect you would be quick to scream for the help of the enforcers if you find yourself on the receiving end from someone else who doesn't want to follow our society's rules and decided to take action toward you.
Of course, I might be wrong. Maybe you are some individual bad-ass who is very capable of kicking some bad guys's ass...or even kicking some cop's ass...when they do something you don't like. But I don't think you are. I think you are all talk.
As if she had any other choice.
You can think whatever you want. Apparently a country can be free even if no one consents to it's government, so I suppose you're free to say whatever you want. Well, unless you somehow violate the rights of someone by speech. I'm not sure how that works, but the government does.
Now you aren't making a lick of sense.
Can you explain to me how a country can be free if no one consents to its government?
But, do we know if we have ''everything on camera"?
Here's another idiot who doesn't know when to shut up:
Video Shows Man Getting Punched by Cop After Resisting Arrest in Harlem | NBC New York
People have been shot for less.
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You mean maybe she didn't do anything because the guy was big and she looked like a runt? Like he could have flicked her into the Hudson River with his right pinkie?
You didn't get that was sarcasm, really? I love sarcasm and if you haven't noticed I use it all the time. It's my favorite service to provide people on this forum.
I think that female cop was doing the right thing...staying away from the guy while he was uncontrolled.
The female should be forced to resign for incompetence. What precinct was this?
Good thing the Male Officer is fit and well put together. Knowing he had a useless partner he didn't bring the fight to the ground.
Thank God that female was there to back him up. S M H
I'm very proud of the male officer, who obviously has trained in self defense, simply judging by his footwork and some nice right crosses....I have no comment on his nearly invisible partner.
Male OFFICER did a GREAT job. He kept a good offense going but maintained distance at the same time. He knew he couldn't get into a ground fight with the animal and leave himself exposed to the gang around him, and he also knew he was fighting ALL ALONE
The female officer should be immediately sent to one of Julian's Zumba classes!
The male cop should be brought up on charges for engaging himself when he knew his partner was useless.
What a disgrace, and even the other gals that showed up did NOTHING !
My problem with this is that the arrest was not really justified, at least by the evidence in this video.
Okay, so you're relying on the friend's characterization of the knife as a "pocket knife" and not one that was illegal for whatever reason. For you to conclude that the knife was legal, therefore presumably making the initial arrest unjustified, in legal parlance aren't you "assuming facts not in evidence"?
My problem with this is that the arrest was not really justified, at least by the evidence in this video.
I visited a message board supposedly dedicated to letting cops rant anonymously. Of course, I can't verify that any of these people are actually in law enforcement, but the comments were entertaining nonetheless:
So, fellas, tell us how you really feel about the female partner. :lol: And that was only some of what was on the first page.
VIDEO: Fight between MOS and Perp in THEE RANT Forum
Okay, so you're relying on the friend's characterization of the knife as a "pocket knife" and not one that was illegal for whatever reason. For you to conclude that the knife was legal, therefore presumably making the initial attempt to arrest the man unjustified, in legal parlance aren't you "assuming facts not in evidence"?
To me, this statement by anyonmus cops is part of the problem.
"Male OFFICER did a GREAT job. He kept a good offense going but maintained distance at the same time. He knew he couldn't get into a ground fight with the animal and leave himself exposed to the gang around him, and he also knew he was fighting ALL ALONE"
For one, why would he refer to this guy as an animal? If a cop thinks the people that he is sworn to protect and serve are animals....he has little to no respect for those same people. Second, what "gang" is he referring to. I only watched the video once but I don't remember seeing a "gang" of people around. Except for the "gang" of cops that showed up.
I feel sorry for the people that are in that anonymous cops beat. I hope they are not black.
No, I am relying on what I saw in the video. See?
The article about the video indicates the witness who filmed it says the citizen had an ordinary pocket knife.
Okay. Well, I was relying on what you wrote, which was:
See?
Anyway, I have to admit I must have blinked when the knife appeared in the video. Either that or I need a microscope to see it. How long was it? Did it have a button with a spring by chance?
Under the Second Amendment, there is no reason for a knife to be illegal. You have a right to be armed, and nowhere does it say that it must be a firearm.
If the officer already had possession of it prior to the incident, why didn't he state (as required) that the citizen was under arrest and declare the charge?
The point I made about so many arrests in NYC for pocket knives is a well-known fact to New Yorkers, including myself as a former resident. Don't believe me?
I-Team: Many Knife Arrests in New York City, Few Convictions | NBC New York
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