Video Shows Indiana Teacher Slam Student's Head Against A Wall Before He Collapses To The Ground

[Metric Mouse]

Poor kid. I hope they have supportive people in their life.

 

[Lursa]

He was granted early retirement and is facing a misdemeanor. Not sure that is progress in the right direction.

The charges give the family more leverage and proof for a civil suit.

 

[Bum]

He was granted early retirement and is facing a misdemeanor. Not sure that is progress in the right direction.

Call me harsh, but raising your hand to a child under your care in such a way as to leave them bloodied should be a felony....

 

[Lursa]

Call me harsh, but raising your hand to a child under your care in such a way as to leave them bloodied should be a felony....

Considering the size difference and the fact the kid collapsed afterward, it was more than just a slap. I'd have liked to see them at least try him on felony battery, and then with questioning, maybe see if misdemeanor was appropriate. Sure looked bad.

 

[Helix]

What ****en difference does it make? Wow

Some feel the need to insert those terms as often as possible for various reasons.

 

[beefheart]

We had a few nuns like that back in the day.

Teacher needs prison.

 

[Northern Light]

My son is austistic and when he was a lot younger, you'd be surprised by the number of intolerant teachers and aids we had to confront during the course of his education, especially back then. Some teachers are sociopaths who can't separate delinquent behavior from autistic behavior, so special needs children get targeted.

My husband had to physically confront a teacher once who slapped my son across the face in class, and three other students witnessed it and told us, in addition to our son. This was back in 2002. The school did nothing, they took the teacher's side and claimed the kids made it up. These were good kids, we knew them from the time they were toddlers. My husband confronted the teacher in the parking lot and advised him that if he hit my son again, no court could save him. That put a stop to it.

Teachers who abuse students like this deserve the full weight of the law thrown at them. I've never understood why school situations are sometimes treated differently. Assault is assault, it doesn't matter where it happens or who is doing it. If the courts don't act, then IMO the parents should act, as my husband did.

 

[justabubba]

My son is austistic and when he was a lot younger, you'd be surprised by the number of intolerant teachers and aids we had to confront during the course of his education, especially back then. Some teachers are sociopaths who can't separate delinquent behavior from autistic behavior, so special needs children get targeted.

My husband had to physically confront a teacher once who slapped my son across the face in class, and three other students witnessed it and told us, in addition to our son. This was back in 2002. The school did nothing, they took the teacher's side and claimed the kids made it up. These were good kids, we knew them from the time they were toddlers. My husband confronted the teacher in the parking lot and advised him that if he hit my son again, no court could save him. That put a stop to it.

Teachers who abuse students like this deserve the full weight of the law thrown at them. I've never understood why school situations are sometimes treated differently. Assault is assault, it doesn't matter where it happens or who is doing it. If the courts don't act, then IMO the parents should act, as my husband did.

1. what prompted the teacher to strike your son?

2. why did you allow your son to remain in that teacher's class after the physical strike to his face?

 

[Northern Light]

1. what prompted the teacher to strike your son?

Don't know, don't care.

2. why did you allow your son to remain in that teacher's class after the physical strike to his face?

It was the only school in our small rural area at the time, and the only teacher for that grade. The teacher retired two years later so luckily our daughter had someone different.

 

[d0gbreath]

I got beat up by my PE teacher when I was in the 8th grade. It was an on base school, where the teachers were all hired from in town in Minot ND.

They pretty much hated us because we were worldly and they hadn't been anywhere in their whole lives. We were in the library supposedly reading our new health book. I was drawing cartoons of the teachers and putting their names under each one. That caused the other kids at my table to laugh out loud, drawing attention to me and my drawing.

I was escorted to Mt. Hurd's office, where he punched me in the breastbone with the heel of his palm. After that he dragged me into the locker room and started slamming me against various lockers and throwing me around. I could witness the action in the many mirrors, and found it to be surreal. I think he was roughing me up to get me to retaliate, but I'm not stupid.

The chest punch hurt for a couple of weeks, but that was the only damage. Then he wanted me to practice with the track team, but not be on the team. I got out of that with a note from a doctor because of a previous skateboard injury, so they switched it to detention for the last three weeks of the school year. Four days later we moved to Omaha.

I didn't tell my folks until after we moved. They were mad that I didn't tell them earlier, but I knew that there weren't any witnesses and he would simply deny it.
I was 13 when he was mid-forties, I'm 66 and he's dead now. I win!

 

[justabubba]

Don't know, don't care.

stunning
that a father would not want to know the circumstances leading to the adult striking his child

It was the only school in our small rural area at the time, and the only teacher for that grade. The teacher retired two years later so luckily our daughter had someone different.

no police report filed against an adult in a position of authority striking your child in the face
no wonder that school was able to get away with such shit
clearly, the parents did not give a damn how their children were being assaulted

 

[Lursa]

stunning
that a father would not want to know the circumstances leading to the adult striking his child

no police report filed against an adult in a position of authority striking your child in the face
no wonder that school was able to get away with such shit
clearly, the parents did not give a damn how their children were being assaulted

She's a mother.

 

[justabubba]

I got beat up by my PE teacher when I was in the 8th grade. It was an on base school, where the teachers were all hired from in town in Minot ND.

They pretty much hated us because we were worldly and they hadn't been anywhere in their whole lives. We were in the library supposedly reading our new health book. I was drawing cartoons of the teachers and putting their names under each one. That caused the other kids at my table to laugh out loud, drawing attention to me and my drawing.

I was escorted to Mt. Hurd's office, where he punched me in the breastbone with the heel of his palm. After that he dragged me into the locker room and started slamming me against various lockers and throwing me around. I could witness the action in the many mirrors, and found it to be surreal. I think he was roughing me up to get me to retaliate, but I'm not stupid.

The chest punch hurt for a couple of weeks, but that was the only damage. Then he wanted me to practice with the track team, but not be on the team. I got out of that with a note from a doctor because of a previous skateboard injury, so they switched it to detention for the last three weeks of the school year. Four days later we moved to Omaha.

I didn't tell my folks until after we moved. They were mad that I didn't tell them earlier, but I knew that there weren't any witnesses and he would simply deny it.
I was 13 when he was mid-forties, I'm 66 and he's dead now. I win!

a somewhat different experience at Charleston AFB '63-64

Old Lady McCarty
former WWII WAC
she still wore standard issue boots under her long, drab, shapeless dress
a great teacher who brooked no violation of the only rule: always do what the teacher says
we understood that silence was expected
even the talkative kid chatting to the adjacent student while Ms McCarty is writing on the chalkboard, her back turned to us
in a flash, Ms McCarty pivots with a wind up of an underhanded fastpitch and releases the eraser at her target
within a split second a perfect strike was delivered to his forehead, with considerable pace; the chalk residue a bright white against the scarlet face of the recipient
an immediate outburst by those others of us filled the room ... a combination of a shared gasp combined with the briefest moment of laughter ... followed by absolute silence

her already considerable legend grew exponentially with that pitch

 

[justabubba]

She's a mother.

then that changes everything
why would a mother want to know why an adult struck her child in the face
apologies for not appreciating that significant distinction and its impact on the adult's assault of a child

 

[Northern Light]

stunning
that a father would not want to know the circumstances leading to the adult striking his child

Because it doesn't matter. A teacher slapping a child across the face is not allowed.

Would it be justifiable if my kid was being a brat? No.

no police report filed against an adult in a position of authority striking your child in the face
no wonder that school was able to get away with such shit
clearly, the parents did not give a damn how their children were being assaulted

I can't believe you're blaming me, and above you tried to blame my kid. Kindly **** off. Thanks.

 

[justabubba]

Because it doesn't matter. A teacher slapping a child across the face is not allowed.

Would it be justifiable if my kid was being a brat? No.



I can't believe you're blaming me, and above you tried to blame my kid. Kindly **** off. Thanks.

in no way did i blame your kid
in fact you have shared that you have no idea whether your kid was provocative

but i do find it strange that a parent would not want to know the circumstances under which an adult in authority would strike a child in the face
and said parent would not file a police report concerning the assault by an adult upon a juvenile

 

[Northern Light]

in no way did i blame your kid
in fact you have shared that you have no idea whether your kid was provocative

but i do find it strange that a parent would not want to know the circumstances under which an adult in authority would strike a child in the face
and said parent would not file a police report concerning the assault by an adult upon a juvenile

Because we chose to deal with it ourselves.

Are we done yet?

 

[justabubba]

Because we chose to deal with it ourselves.

Are we done yet?

appears you were done with it once you allowed the adult who assaulted your child to continue to teach without any adverse consequences

 

[d0gbreath]

a somewhat different experience at Charleston AFB '63-64

Old Lady McCarty
former WWII WAC
she still wore standard issue boots under her long, drab, shapeless dress
a great teacher who brooked no violation of the only rule: always do what the teacher says
we understood that silence was expected
even the talkative kid chatting to the adjacent student while Ms McCarty is writing on the chalkboard, her back turned to us
in a flash, Ms McCarty pivots with a wind up of an underhanded fastpitch and releases the eraser at her target
within a split second a perfect strike was delivered to his forehead, with considerable pace; the chalk residue a bright white against the scarlet face of the recipient
an immediate outburst by those others of us filled the room ... a combination of a shared gasp combined with the briefest moment of laughter ... followed by absolute silence

her already considerable legend grew exponentially with that pitch

At the same school as Mr. Hurd, we had Mrs. Weigel, our science teacher. She could've made any NFL team as an offensive lineman.

Most of the teachers had large wooden paddles with which they were allowed to give us 'swats'. I got caught shooting spitballs and was ushered out into the hallway to get my swat. We couldn't wear jeans, so my thin dress pants were my only protection. I had an aluminum comb in my back pocket which I dropped onto the floor making a somewhat musical tone.

Tingle, jingle, jingle, POW! My classmates thought that was funny, so they were trying not to crack up while I was walking back to my desk, but their facial expressions cracked me up, so back to the hall.

Tingle, jingle, jingle, POW! again. This time when I returned, they couldn't make me laugh as my ass hurt too bad.

 

[Northern Light]

appears you were done with it once you allowed the adult who assaulted your child to continue to teach without any adverse consequences

At this point you're just trolling. What's interesting is that you seem to feel entitled to judge and validate an experience that you have no connection to, when in actual fact your opinion is irrelevant. Thanks for playing.

 

[dcsports]

Considering the size difference and the fact the kid collapsed afterward, it was more than just a slap. I'd have liked to see them at least try him on felony battery, and then with questioning, maybe see if misdemeanor was appropriate. Sure looked bad.

He was also injured, including a bloody nose. I would say it was way more than a slap.

What gets me is the 'infraction' committed that got the teacher upset. He was wearing a hoodie on a non-hoodie day. (Apparently they allow hoodies on designated days). A very minor dress code violation. The student wasn't even doing anything where you could say there was some shared blame, like fighting with another student or smarting off at the teacher. He was walking down the hall - the teacher had to chase him down to grab him, slam him against the wall, and strike him in the face. And when the student collapsed, rather than helping, he started to leave as if he was trying to avoid being caught. That's not normal behavior.

Under Indiana law though, the the felony charge here is triggered by "moderate injury" . Given that the injuries were treated by the school nurse, the 'lesser injury' is probably appropriate.

There are other groups under the felony statute, such as striking a police officer, special needs person, or a child (under 14) by an adult. The legislature probably didn't anticipate a teacher slugging a student in school. May be something they want to reevaluate.

 

[Lursa]

He was also injured, including a bloody nose. I would say it was way more than a slap.

What gets me is the 'infraction' committed that got the teacher upset. He was wearing a hoodie on a non-hoodie day. (Apparently they allow hoodies on designated days). A very minor dress code violation. The student wasn't even doing anything where you could say there was some shared blame, like fighting with another student or smarting off at the teacher. He was walking down the hall - the teacher had to chase him down to grab him, slam him against the wall, and strike him in the face. And when the student collapsed, rather than helping, he started to leave as if he was trying to avoid being caught. That's not normal behavior.

Under Indiana law though, the the felony charge here is triggered by "moderate injury" . Given that the injuries were treated by the school nurse, the 'lesser injury' is probably appropriate.

There are other groups under the felony statute, such as striking a police officer, special needs person, or a child (under 14) by an adult. The legislature probably didn't anticipate a teacher slugging a student in school. May be something they want to reevaluate.

The scary thing to me is that the kid collapsed after...I would be concerned about brain injury. I dont know how long ago this took place anymore, so hopefully he's all clear. The disparity in size to me should also be considered...the use of that force against a child.

But I guess the 'moderate' is a judgement call If I was the parents, I'd be furious but I really do think they'll be bringing a civil suit.

 

[beefheart]

We had a nun in 4th grade, Sister Corine, she was a mentally ill sadist. She regularly slammed kids against walls, pushed their heads into desks, etc. The worst thing she did, and I hope she is rotting in hell for it, was verbally abusing a student who came from a messed up home and his father had died that year. She started yelling at him, and he was a wreck and started crying. In a mocking tone she said:"ahhh, what's the matter? You crying because your father died?"

If I had a time machine.....BTW, I still live about 100 feet away from that classroom, I think about that monster all the time.

My father (no fan of Catholic school) explained things to me he once said, in regards to why the nuns were so cruel: "You have to understand, in my day if a family had 3 girls, the smart one went to college, the pretty one got married.....and the other one became a nun". Boy do I miss his wisdom/

 

[dcsports]

The scary thing to me is that the kid collapsed after...I would be concerned about brain injury. I dont know how long ago this took place anymore, so hopefully he's all clear. The disparity in size to me should also be considered...the use of that force against a child.

But I guess the 'moderate' is a judgement call If I was the parents, I'd be furious but I really do think they'll be bringing a civil suit.

It looked bad, no doubt. But apparently it was minor injuries. A class 1 misdemeanor is still serious - up to 2 years in state jail in my state. I'm sure all of the factors in this video will be taken into consideration at sentencing`.

The issue with "moderate" vs just "injured" is a little more than a judgement call though. It would be an element of the crime that has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. Had the kid been hospitalized, or even brought to the hospital by ambulance, you could make a case for that. But given that he only required first aid, the judge made the right call.

 

[justabubba]

At this point you're just trolling. What's interesting is that you seem to feel entitled to judge and validate an experience that you have no connection to, when in actual fact your opinion is irrelevant. Thanks for playing.

actually, i was alarmed by a parent who was willing to allow their child to be taught by a teacher who had committed violence against that student
was hoping there was something which might explain what otherwise appears to be a combination of neglect of a child and indifference toward a child abuser