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Vet cuts down Mexican flag flying above U.S. banner

SgtRock

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Source: WorldNetDaily
Date: Oct. 3, 2007

I first read about this story today on http://immigrationwatchdog.com/. It was good to see someone stand up for America. Many Mexicans have this attitude that this country belongs to Mexico. Well you know what, it dosn't. And why should we expect anything different from people whos first act entering America was to break our law. It is against the law to fly the flag of the United States of America below any other flag.

Here is the story.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57960

Here is the video fron KSN NBC News

http://www.ksn.com/news/also/10205326.html
 
SgtRock said:
And why should we expect anything different from people whos first act entering America was to break our law.
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Exactly. What chaps my a$$ the most, is listening to these idots claiming that these people are hard working, honest people looking to work, and provide for their families.

They broke the law when they entered illegally, that in itself, ends any and all arguments.

While most Americans are looking for solutions to keep the illegal aliens out, the democrats keep proposing legislation to reward the criminals infesting our country.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3652

The DREAM Act Portal - Home
 
I thought conservatives cared about "property rights", I guess that's only true when the state "isn't in peril", as defined by...well...the people who claim "the state is in peril"

The state is peril. I'm going to make a law that you can't write **** in your own home. Because the state is in peril. This isn't a breach of the sacred right to property because THE STATE IS IN PERIL!!
 

WTF are you blabing about?
 
explain to me the legality of a law which prevents me from flying WHATEVER kind of flag I want underneath or above or around or on fire any other kind of flag I want.

in a society where the right to both freedom of expression and the right of property was respected, such a law would not exist
 

From a constitutional perspective, I'd have to agree.

I don't like it, and it pisses me off that people come to this country and fly foreign flags over our own. But we live in a country where people have the right to piss other people off, as long as they're not intruding on other's rights.
 

It's not against the law to fly another flag over the US flag. Against flag code perhaps, but the people are within their rights to fly whatever flag they choose wherever they choose.
 
Well it's a good thing we believe in peaceful protest here cause I think occupying federal land and raising a foreign flag upon its ground could be considered quite the hostile act. I love immigration, it's good for the country...but it's still America and while we can do our best to let people in and allow them the bounty of our liberty; we should get a little respect in return.


As for private property, I don't know if I would call in the troops for some dude flying a foreign flag over our own, but i wouldn't be inclined to be the nicest of person to them either.
 
I feel like there's a pervading problem in our country - that people can't fight that kind of smaller scale injustice without a good lawyer and a lot of cash.

I guess civil dissent is an option, but in a small border town where most of the residents are probably bitter about illegals, I can't see anyone creating a lot of momentum on an issue like flag flying.

But this isn't a topic I know very much about, so I digress.
 
The guy who cut the Mexican flag off of private property was dead wrong and he should face vandalism charges.

The other video where protesters took down an American Flag and raised a Mexican flag instead over a US post office, which is a federal building, is just a frigging disgrace. The cops should have controlled that situation and not allowed that to happen.
 

I have to agree. Private property, you should be able to fly whatever flag you want, hang a noose in your own tree, whatever. I understand where the vet is coming from, but private property crosses the line. Conversely taking down the American Flag, and raising another on federal property is also crossing the line and the police should have never let that happen.

What a strange place America is. If you can be held liable for shooting a burgular that breaks into your house, then nothing suprises me.
 
WI Crippler said:
What a strange place America is. If you can be held liable for shooting a burgular that breaks into your house, then nothing suprises me.
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Thats why you send the dog in first. Thats what I do to right wing christians who come to my house. Dogs are a great accessory to a pistol.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Thats why you send the dog in first. Thats what I do to right wing christians who come to my house. Dogs are a great accessory to a pistol.
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Where the hell are all these right-wing christians that go door to door trying to convert people?? Honestly. Do they not exist in Wisconsin?? I have had one time where Jehovahs Witness came to my house. I don't even know if they are christian or not, but they didn't stick around after I told them I was just home on military leave(I believe their belief is that all military people go to hell automatically).
 

No need to explain it to you. Its the law. If you don't like it write your congressman, lead a campaign or start a petition to have the law changed. Its the law and its a good law in my opinion. This is America, I don't think we should have the flag of a third world cesspool flying over our flag.

4 US Code 1 Section 7 c

(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America

read about the law here
SUVCW--U. S. Flag Code (36 USC 10)
 
Here is another story. This happened in Jupiter Florida last year.

U.S. flag stolen, Mexican banner raised in its place – residents angry

Over the weekend, someone cut the ropes of the flagpole, stole the Stars and Stripes and replaced it with a Mexican flag. The action brought out the police and many stunned residents of the community off Central Boulevard, including Sue Miller, a board member.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/020406Mexican.htm
 


You do realize anything from the website that hosts a loony like Alex Jones is called into question right?
 
Here's your job. Prove that the store owner who did so was an illegal immigrant. Prove also that he did so knowingly that it was a violation of the law. Prove then that he was attempting to push any specific agenda.
Finally; prove that the owner did so because he thought that the US belonged to Mexico.
 

"This is a U.S. federal law, but there is no penalty for failure to comply with them and they are not widely enforced — indeed, punitive enforcement would conflict with the First Amendment right to freedom of speech, as the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled when the subject has come up in the past."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code
 


Here is your job.......piss off!
 
...ummm yeah....what somebody said....hang a noose on your own property - cut up your own Mexican flag damn it. Wait...I got it...lets just keep buying Mexican flags so that jobs in Mexico are created.....then....we cut em up....solves the immigration problem right there. Why come to America to sell oranges...a job so many Americans want....when you can be making flags and representing la raza? I'm a genius.
 
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