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Vermont Votes to Impeach Bush/Cheney

Vermont's positions on Jessica's law etc are only relavent to call into question the overall judgment of Vermont voters. But it's a red herring in this debate unless the SAME voters are the ones voting for impeachent.
 
Vermont's positions on Jessica's law etc are only relavent to call into question the overall judgment of Vermont voters. But it's a red herring in this debate unless the SAME voters are the ones voting for impeachent.

But there is no way of knowing one way or the other is there? So, stating that it IS a definate red herring is false based on your argument...
 
Moderator's Warning:
Just a preemptive strike here. Some of these posts are starting to 'drip' with personal innuendo. Please keep it clean and civil.
 
reaganburch said:
But there is no way of knowing one way or the other is there? So, stating that it IS a definate red herring is false based on your argument...
It seems to me the possibility that they're all the same voters is remote enough to assume that they probably aren't.
 
It seems to me the possibility that they're all the same voters is remote enough to assume that they probably aren't.

Actually... they have many things in common...

1) No common unelected citizen can vote for impeachment in the US House of Representatives and the same can't pass a bill in the state Congress for Jessica's Law or any other law for that matter...
2) Any common citizen can write their congress person and ask that they support one thing or another
3) If they can vote on something meaningless like... "we want impeachment"... they can vote on something else like... "we want Jessica's Law" or some other law... although NEITHER holds any weight...

But, honestly... I'm so over this topic at this point...

Impeachment is not going to happen, the top Democrats in the House already said so and 75% of the public doesn't want it, according to Nifty's 2006(yes, past tense, 2006 is NOT 2007) poll that he referenced... therefore, let them, Nifty, Billo, whomever, scream at the rain, bang your head against a wall, call names, make unfounded accusations, throw temper tantrums, whatever you want to do... In November of 2008, we'll have an election to replace President Bush in January of 2009... and that will stop this entire impeachment talk... Actually it probably won't, we're still having conversations about Clinton 6+ years after he left office...

My point in this entire thing was...

1) It's NOT going to happen, so what's the point of all of this?
2) If the citizens of Vermont have so much energy to do things that might help their state or this country, how 'bout they call their representatives to do something that actually has a chance of happening... such as Jessica's Law... example...

And with that... I'm out...
 
It's seriously not that hard to understand that FierceEnigma12z has nothing to add to the topic other than an ad hominem swipe at niftydrifty.

cmon, people. this is weak.

"they sound angry"

"it doesn't do anything"

"what about Jessica's law?"

"what about Utah and Clinton?"

Or the fact that everytime someone uses Clinton as an example liberals like you have to whine and complain like children and call a mere EXAMPLE a cop-out statement.But hey it's okay, you can just keep acting like aps with your "nothing to bring to the topic" responses.
 
I believe impeachment talk is a waste of time because it's not going to happen. You mentioned that 25% of adults believe in impeaching President Bush. The flip side of that coin is that 75% of adults DON'T believe in impeaching President Bush.
Whether he deserves to be impeached or not is completely irrelevant to THIS topic...

This is not a scientific poll, but kind of interesting none the less.

Live Vote: Should Bush be impeached? - Politics - MSNBC.com

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 422347 responses

Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
87%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4.5%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
6.1%

I don't know.
1.9%
 
Vermont...

The state that refuses to pass Jessica's law. With Judges who believes that giving probation to child rapists are appropriate sentences...

Apparently meaningless angry rhetoric is more important than passing real legislation that protects children in Vermont...

Everything that comes from that state is just white noise to me...

Funny...this isn't about the liberal garbage comin' out of Vermont. This is about President Bush. I am one who certainly believes that child rapists deserve to be beheaded. And I certainly support Jessica's law. Immorality and wrong are immorality and wrong regardless as to rather it's a liberal or a conservative. If Bush was working for a company and botched a project this important, wasted lives of soldiers, and wasted billions and billions of dollars...he'd be fired and you know it. Bush deserves to pay the piper friend. Just because someone wants to see Bush held responsible for his blunders doesn't mean they support child rape.

In my humble opinion...Bush should be impeached. Not because he is an immoral twit. But because he is a terrible leader who should be set down.
 
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