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Venezuela’s Maduro Sold 40% Of The National Gold Reserves Last Year

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will putler get the BINGO with Venezuela’s gold at the end of this tragedy ?

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https://www.kitco.com/news/2019-02-07/Venezuela-s-Maduro-Sold-40-Of-Its-Gold-Reserves-Last-Year.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-latin-america-47171879/venezuela-s-gold-diplomacy-gamble
 
Typical socialism. The elites take care of themselves while everyone else starves.

We have it so much better. Better send some troops to Ft. Knox. Trump gonna pull a Goldfinger........
 
Typical socialism. The elites take care of themselves while everyone else starves.

Chucklechan:

This is historically true of capitalism too. So what is your point?

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 

Litwin:

The BBC video tries to paint the working conditions of Venezuelan gold miners as atypically bad. The conditions are bad but not really that different from precious metal miners all over South and Central America and Africa.

Venezuela is a large producer of gold and diamonds due to rich deposits found in its northern mountains. The gold sold by Venezuela to turkey was not bullion but raw gold from its mines. Therefore the gold was never counted as part of Venezuela's gold reserves. Thus the 40% figure is not accurate.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Typical socialism. The elites take care of themselves while everyone else starves.

They are not selling gold to take care of themselves, they are doing it because they need foriegn money in their supply. Venezuala is nowhere near as broke as media makes it out to be, however money is only good if people will take it, and venezuala has hyperinflation going on. Meaning the country could have 100 billion in usd worth of their own currency and no one would take it because the hyper inflation means that currency would keep dropping in value as soon as it is had, meaning everyone except those who instantly use it to purchase from the originating country lose value every day by holding their currency.

This has led the govt to seek foreign currencies like the euro, which other nations will accept for trade for things like food medicine etc, since the euro is stable. The reality is can you blame venezuala for selling gold since no one wants a currency that loses value by the day, or blame countries for not wanting such a currency and demanding a stable one, the reality is you should not blame either for that, if anything you should blame venezuala for poor monetary policy, not for selling gold to feed their people.
 
Chucklechan:

This is historically true of capitalism too. So what is your point?

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

When is the last time our citizens started eating zoo animals? (San Francisco doesn't count)

And you are making light of just how FUBAR they are down there. But with friends like Russia, China, Cuba, Iran, and Hezbollah setting up shop in your country, it should be a workers paradise.
 
When is the last time our citizens started eating zoo animals? (San Francisco doesn't count)

And you are making light of just how FUBAR they are down there. But with friends like Russia, China, Cuba, Iran, and Hezbollah setting up shop in your country, it should be a workers paradise.

chucklechan:

As usual Mr. Pompeo's accusations only tells part of the truth.

More controversial than what Pompeo said, however, should have been what he implied—namely, that regime change would rid Venezuela of Hezbollah. Whatever the benefits of replacing the current Venezuelan regime with Washington’s preferred alternative, there’s reason to doubt that it would change the country’s problematic relationship with the terrorist group.

Hezbollah has a long and sordid history in Venezuela. A cocaine-smuggling ring active throughout the 2000s and led by a Hezbollah-linked Lebanese national named Chekry Harb, a drug trafficker and money laundering kingpin who went by the nickname “Taliban” and used Panama and Venezuela as critical hubs in an operation that sent narcotics from Colombia to the United States, West Africa, the Middle East, and Europe. Proceeds from the cocaine-trafficking ring were laundered into Colombian pesos or Venezuelan bolivars, with Hezbollah netting between 8 and 14 percent of profits.

From:

Hezbollah Is in Venezuela to Stay – Foreign Policy

Hezbollah/Chekry Harb is actually based in Columbia and uses Venezuela as an access route to the sea. It launders its ill-gotten gains into both Columbian pesos and Venezuelan Bolivars. So why is Pompeo not calling for the overthrow of the Columbian Regime? Hint: it's a non-socialist, right-wing regime, which often is setting aside its own national interests in favour of US interests in the region and across the globe. In addition to exporting cocaine Columbia provides many shady American allies with mercenaries to guard those regimes' economic interests and to fight their foreign wars. Which is more toxic to the world, the business of cocaine or the business of war?

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
When is the last time our citizens started eating zoo animals? (San Francisco doesn't count)

And you are making light of just how FUBAR they are down there. But with friends like Russia, China, Cuba, Iran, and Hezbollah setting up shop in your country, it should be a workers paradise.

Seeing is believing. I challenge Evilroddy to visit these places and see for himself. A government sponsored guided tour doesn't count. If visiting Venezuela, hiring TRUSTWORTHY private security is a must.
 
Dictator Retirement Fund
 
Dictator Retirement Fund

That's about the size of it. Yet some folks here swear Maduro has only the best interests of his fellow countrymen at heart.
 
Seeing is believing. I challenge Evilroddy to visit these places and see for himself. A government sponsored guided tour doesn't count. If visiting Venezuela, hiring TRUSTWORTHY private security is a must.

agreed, friend of mine was there , worked there before just Xmass , kidnappings during the day light everywhere , pure hell just like "russian" Caucasus
 
A despot has to do something to ensure s/he has the cash to pay the military servicemen and women who are the only thing between the despot and his/her ouster. Selling that much gold generates a lot of cash.
 
Seeing is believing. I challenge Evilroddy to visit these places and see for himself. A government sponsored guided tour doesn't count. If visiting Venezuela, hiring TRUSTWORTHY private security is a must.

SDET:

I've travelled to Cuba, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, a bit of Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places in Europe, Africa and Asia. I have seen the privation, the misery, the disparity and the despair caused by both extreme capitalism and extreme socialism on four continents. I have never been to Venezuela however, but there are two Venezuelans married into my extended family. One hates the Chavistas with a blinding passion and one is sympathetic to their goals but not to their corruption and incompetence. Both agree however that this is a challenge for Venezuelans to solve themselves and that outside states should not become entangled in Venezuela's domestic issues.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
SDET:

I've travelled to Cuba, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, a bit of Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places in Europe, Africa and Asia. I have seen the privation, the misery, the disparity and the despair caused by both extreme capitalism and extreme socialism on four continents. I have never been to Venezuela however, but there are two Venezuelans married into my extended family. One hates the Chavistas with a blinding passion and one is sympathetic to their goals but not to their corruption and incompetence. Both agree however that this is a challenge for Venezuelans to solve themselves and that outside states should not become entangled in Venezuela's domestic issues.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

When millions of their people pour into other countries, Venezuela makes it those countries business.
 
When millions of their people pour into other countries, Venezuela makes it those countries business.

SDET:

Then relax the sanctions and financial/economic restrictions and allow the Venezuelan state to buy the necessary supplies to relieve some of the shortages which the West has imposed on Venezuela. That will reduce the outflow of Venezuelan migrants and may even reverse it. Plus the return of upto three-million pissed-off Venezuelans former migrants to Venezuela might tip the balance and give the opposition the demographic boost needed to legitimately change the Venezuelan Government by ballot rather than by bullet.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
SDET:

I've travelled to Cuba, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, a bit of Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places in Europe, Africa and Asia. I have seen the privation, the misery, the disparity and the despair caused by both extreme capitalism and extreme socialism on four continents. I have never been to Venezuela however, but there are two Venezuelans married into my extended family. One hates the Chavistas with a blinding passion and one is sympathetic to their goals but not to their corruption and incompetence. Both agree however that this is a challenge for Venezuelans to solve themselves and that outside states should not become entangled in Venezuela's domestic issues.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

its a BS, in many cases its impossible . USA must end this tragedy a soon as possible
 
Then relax the sanctions and financial/economic restrictions and allow the Venezuelan state to buy the necessary supplies to relieve some of the shortages which the West has imposed on Venezuela.

There were dire shortages of products in Venezuela long before any Western sanctions were imposed, hyperinflation being the culprit.
 
There were dire shortages of products in Venezuela long before any Western sanctions were imposed, hyperinflation being the culprit.

when koba have been starving to death 100 000 000 million, soviet peasants he blamed the west for it too
 
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