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Its child abuse.12. That's awful
Its child abuse.12. That's awful
Less than 1%., some estimates .3% of "transitioned" individuals "have regrets". That's just a false narrative promoted by anti-trans fomenters, as there are so many opportunities to "get off that train" before any reassignment surgery is performed. A friend of mine has been postponing it for years because she just can't afford it and her insurance won't cover it, but has been living as a woman for nearly a decade. Another friend had to fight his parents until he came of age to finally get the breast reduction he'd been working toward since childhood. 10 years later, never a moment's hesitation.Because doctors get it wrong sometimes
Well, some of us dont want to allow fascist witch doctors to experiment on our children.Less than 1%., some estimates .3% of "transitioned" individuals "have regrets". That's just a false narrative promoted by anti-trans fomenters, as there are so many opportunities to "get off that train" before any reassignment surgery is performed. A friend of mine has been postponing it for years because she just can't afford it and her insurance won't cover it, but has been living as a woman for nearly a decade. Another friend had to fight his parents until he came of age to finally get the breast reduction he'd been working toward since childhood. 10 years later, never a moment's hesitation.
I know you hate those people because they don't fit into your political agendaLess than 1%., some estimates .3% of "transitioned" individuals "have regrets". That's just a false narrative promoted by anti-trans fomenters, as there are so many opportunities to "get off that train" before any reassignment surgery is performed. A friend of mine has been postponing it for years because she just can't afford it and her insurance won't cover it, but has been living as a woman for nearly a decade. Another friend had to fight his parents until he came of age to finally get the breast reduction he'd been working toward since childhood. 10 years later, never a moment's hesitation.
That makes no sense.I know you hate those people because they don't fit into your political agenda
And very few people are trans as well
The idea that it's OK because it's only a few of them is revolting
All I ask is you listen to the detransitionersThat makes no sense.
To what end?All I ask is you listen to the detransitioners
To hear their side of itTo what end?
And then?To hear their side of it
Let me know when you do thatAnd then?
Punished????? LolSo 99.7% of the affected people have to be punished for the regrets of .3% Where's the logic in that?
There is no medical science in butchering children good for Utah.Utah Bans Transition Care for Transgender Youth (NYT, Subscription)
Gov. Spencer Cox of Utah signed a bill on Saturday that blocks minors from receiving gender-transition health care, the first such measure in the country this year in what is expected to be a wave of legislation by state lawmakers to restrict transgender rights.
The law prohibits transgender youth in the state from receiving gender-affirming surgery and places an indefinite ban on hormone therapy, with limited exceptions.
Mr. Cox, a Republican, said in a statement that banning these treatments was necessary until more research could be done on their long-term effects.
“While we understand our words will be of little comfort to those who disagree with us, we sincerely hope that we can treat our transgender families with more love and respect as we work to better understand the science and consequences behind these procedures,” the governor said.
Once again, a State ignores medical science (yes, I know they claim not to), the wishes of parents (so much for "family values") and pushes to harm a significant part of the US population as political theater. I expect this will be struck down in short order. The Supreme Court - particularly the "conservatives" - have long pushed the fundamental interest of parents in the care and raising of children:
"The liberty interest at issue in this case-the interest of parents in the care, custody, and control of their childrenis perhaps the oldest of the fundamental liberty interests recognized by this Court. More than 75 years ago, in Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U. S. 390, 399, 401 (1923), we held that the "liberty" protected by the Due Process Clause includes the right of parents to "establish a home and bring up children" and "to control the education of their own." Two years later, in Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U. S. 510, 534-535 (1925), we again held that the "liberty of parents and guardians" includes the right "to direct the upbringing and education of children under their control." We explained in Pierce that "[t]he child is not the mere creature of the State; those who nurture him and direct his destiny have the right, coupled with the high duty, to recognize and prepare him for additional obligations." Id., at 535. We returned to the subject in Prince v. Massachusetts, 321 U. S. 158 (1944), and again confirmed that there is a constitutional dimension to the right of parents to direct the upbringing of their children. "It is cardinal with us that the custody, care and nurture of the child reside first in the parents, whose primary function and freedom include preparation for obligations the state can neither supply nor hinder." Id., at 166.
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Well that and they believe trans people are mentally ill to the point their agency to even make decisions is denied.Because they are "not real people" you see. They "don't matter". It's about control, and who gets to exercise it. Certainly not the children or their "weak" parents who give in to their "whims". It has to be prohibited by the state. Make them wear little pink triangles or something.
You're attempting to say something, but you're being squirrely about it.Let me know when you do that
No I'm not. I'm saying we should consider all voices in this legislationYou're attempting to say something, but you're being squirrely about it.
ok. Then what?No I'm not. I'm saying we should consider all voices in this legislation
Only childrenWell that and they believe trans people are mentally ill to the point their agency to even make decisions is denied.
Yes, denied treatment. Forced to live with dysphoria. That is the actual topic of the thread.Punished?
Puberty blockers are given to minors that experience pre-mature puberty way before this became a trans thing.These idiots obviously haven't heard about the devastating side effects that puberty blockers can have for minors:
FDA warns puberty blocker may cause brain swelling, vision loss in children
Earlier this month, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration added a warning to gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) agonists, commonly known as “puberty blockersnbcmontana.com
Then we all can make a better informed choice about itok. Then what?
And the whippings of course. LolYes, denied treatment. Forced to live with dysphoria. That is the actual topic of the thread.
except, that entails ignoring the vast majority who prefer to have a choice.Then we all can make a better informed choice about it
I mean when you take a meta analysis, its pretty clear the overwhelming majority are helped.Less than 1%., some estimates .3% of "transitioned" individuals "have regrets". That's just a false narrative promoted by anti-trans fomenters, as there are so many opportunities to "get off that train" before any reassignment surgery is performed. A friend of mine has been postponing it for years because she just can't afford it and her insurance won't cover it, but has been living as a woman for nearly a decade. Another friend had to fight his parents until he came of age to finally get the breast reduction he'd been working toward since childhood. 10 years later, never a moment's hesitation.
They said that about white people preferring to have a choice not to go to school with black kidsexcept, that entails ignoring the vast majority who prefer to have a choice.