US Won’t Rule out Military Action if China Establishes Base in Solomon Islands

[Ikari]

It is just very interesting when you call Russia grabby for doing precisely what the US is doing now.

Oh look, a sovereign country is buddying up to another sphere of influence <threaten military intervention>.

One is bad, another is good?

What are we doing now?

lol

But keep up defending your buddy Putin there.

 

[rhinefire]

There were 10k Americans killed driving the Japs out during the Solomon Islands campaign in WW2. If the Chicoms we're to establish military bases there, I'm unsure what military strategy is on the books to deal with it with minimal loss of life, if we took action.

"Japs"!? Another revealing piece from a Trumpet.

 

[bave]

What are we doing now?

lol

But keep up defending your buddy Putin there.

Erm, we supported an uprising to depose a democratically elected government right before the elections. The new government which was the unconstitutionally installed rigged the future elections and did a 180 on foreign policy to swing from the Russian sphere to the Western sphere. At which point we began sending US troops into Ukraine and signing military alliances. You know, far less than what China is doing in the Solomons. All they did was ask for a military treaty and basing rights, I am unaware of them interfering their the government there.

 

[Ikari]

Erm, we supported an uprising to depose a democratically elected government right before the elections. The new government which was the unconstitutionally installed rigged the future elections and did a 180 on foreign policy to swing from the Russian sphere to the Western sphere. At which point we began sending US troops into Ukraine and signing military alliances. You know, far less than what China is doing in the Solomons. All they did was ask for a military treaty and basing rights, I am unaware of them interfering their the government there.

Which one? Were we fighting there? Were we shelling anything? Were we targeting civilians? Were we creating mass graves?

lol

But keep making excuses for your pal Putin.

 

[bave]

Which one? Were we fighting there? Were we shelling anything? Were we targeting civilians? Were we creating mass graves?

lol

But keep making excuses for your pal Putin.

It's cute when so many people scream about Putin being illegimately aggressive when the US is threatening to attack countries for doing less.

Hypocrisy, it grows like a weed around here.

 

[Mr Person]

So if the US invades the Solomon Islands to prevent a Chinese military base from being established there, then how is that morally any different from Russia invading Ukraine to prevent NATO from establishing its presence there?

US won’t rule out military action if China establishes base in Solomon Islands

Ambassador Daniel Kritenbrink warns security pact presents ‘potential regional security implications’

www.theguardian.com

J.F.C.

W.T.F.

Why do you people pretend this stuff matters? By "this stuff", I mean what a POTUS says about what is or is not on the table. Obama said nukes are off in regard to one conflict. Did anyone seriously think that meant that if he decided nukes were necessary, he wouldn't use them? Because his word?

lol (or better word), please.

We're gonna do what we're gonna do. Ditto everyone else. What Biden says we will and will not do to an aggressive enemy is bullshit beyond the extent to which one wonders what it is he wants them to think and what they might think. But "off the table" isn't "off the table". It can't be. Life is too unpredictable. If it is in our advantage to break our word, we will break it.

 

[Ikari]

It's cute when so many people scream about Putin being illegimately aggressive when the US is threatening to attack countries for doing less.

Hypocrisy, it grows like a weed around here.

It's cute that you're still making excuses for Putin and Xi.

 

[dcsports]

So if the US invades the Solomon Islands to prevent a Chinese military base from being established there, then how is that morally any different from Russia invading Ukraine to prevent NATO from establishing its presence there?

US won’t rule out military action if China establishes base in Solomon Islands

Ambassador Daniel Kritenbrink warns security pact presents ‘potential regional security implications’

www.theguardian.com

Really it's the opposite. The administration is saying it won't rule out military action IF China establishes a presence there. There is a parallel to the the Ukraine situation, but with China as the aggressor instead of Russia. Of course, in the Ukraine situation, we wouldn't rule out sending troops to Europe, and that wasn't exactly a deterrent.

There may be a little bit of showmanship at play as well. Of course, the Solomon Islands would probably like some assurance that we won't let China roll over them, as well as some 'aid' sent their way. China may just be sabre rattling, testing the waters, or establishing a precedent for their development elsewhere.

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes, that's what they are. That's what my dad as an infantryman in the 25th Tropic Lightning Division, who fought them in Northern Luzon, and in other campaigns in WW2 called them. That's what I call them and countless others. What's the problem?

You are aware the year is 2022 and not 1945……right?

 

[braindrain]

That is one hell of a view of it.

It looks more to me like the US/West grabbed Ukraine and cried about Russia going to war over it.
Now, the US is crying about China grabbing the Solomons.

What in the holy hell is the difference other than the amazing level of hypocrisy?

That’s because you get all your information from Russian propaganda sites and not reality.

 

[bave]

That’s because you get all your information from Russian propaganda sites and not reality.

'Splain me the difference then.

The US shifts, that is the nicest and most gentle phrasing possible, Ukraine from the Russian sphere to the Western sphere and promptly begins sending troops into that country and then enters into a military alliance with said nation.

The Solomons cuts a secret deal with China, to accept Chinese support and money in exchange for basis rights.

On the first, we scream because Putin takes military action.
On the second, we threaten military action.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[HangLow]

There were 10k Americans killed driving the Japs out during the Solomon Islands campaign in WW2. If the Chicoms we're to establish military bases there, I'm unsure what military strategy is on the books to deal with it with minimal loss of life, if we took action.

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[braindrain]

'Splain me the difference then.

The US shifts, that is the nicest and most gentle phrasing possible, Ukraine from the Russian sphere to the Western sphere and promptly begins sending troops into that country and then enters into a military alliance with said nation.

The Solomons cuts a secret deal with China, to accept Chinese support and money in exchange for basis rights.

On the first, we scream because Putin takes military action.
On the second, we threaten military action.

Pot, meet kettle.

Ukraine shifted all on its own and it is well with the rights of a sovereign country to make alliances with who ever it wants to.
But then you know that but refuse to counter the propaganda you are told to push.

You will have much more of a point if the US start massacring civilians in the Solomon Islands. Until then. Not so much.

 

[Bodi]

Yes, that's what they are. That's what my dad as an infantryman in the 25th Tropic Lightning Division, who fought them in Northern Luzon, and in other campaigns in WW2 called them. That's what I call them and countless others. What's the problem?

It is an ethnic slur. The world is also moving on from calling black people the N-Word.

 

[Bodi]

We won't. At the same accord we can't say that we won't, that would just green light China's actions.

Russia and China appear to be getting rather grabby.

I fall back on economics... if China beat us in a war who will buy all their shit... if we beat them then who will make the shit.

 

[ChickenTendies]

Really it's the opposite. The administration is saying it won't rule out military action IF China establishes a presence there. There is a parallel to the the Ukraine situation, but with China as the aggressor instead of Russia. Of course, in the Ukraine situation, we wouldn't rule out sending troops to Europe, and that wasn't exactly a deterrent.

There may be a little bit of showmanship at play as well. Of course, the Solomon Islands would probably like some assurance that we won't let China roll over them, as well as some 'aid' sent their way. China may just be sabre rattling, testing the waters, or establishing a precedent for their development elsewhere.

Why would the Solomon Islands want assurance? They're the ones that signed the treaty. If anything they've been assuring us that China isn't going to build a base.

 

[LouC]

 

[sanman]

Really it's the opposite. The administration is saying it won't rule out military action IF China establishes a presence there. There is a parallel to the the Ukraine situation, but with China as the aggressor instead of Russia. Of course, in the Ukraine situation, we wouldn't rule out sending troops to Europe, and that wasn't exactly a deterrent.

There may be a little bit of showmanship at play as well. Of course, the Solomon Islands would probably like some assurance that we won't let China roll over them, as well as some 'aid' sent their way. China may just be sabre rattling, testing the waters, or establishing a precedent for their development elsewhere.

China has signed an agreement with Solomon Islands, which you now equate to Russia's invasion. I'd liken Solomons' collaboration with China to Ukraine's collaboration with NATO.
These types of collaborations are destabilizing to their respective regions.

 

[dcsports]

Why would the Solomon Islands want assurance? They're the ones that signed the treaty. If anything they've been assuring us that China isn't going to build a base.

They probably feel - with good reason - that the US would stand by and watch China roll over them.

 

[watsup]

It is just very interesting when you call Russia grabby for doing precisely what the US is doing now.

Oh look, a sovereign country is buddying up to another sphere of influence <threaten military intervention>.

One is bad, another is good?

So many many lies.

 

[sanman]

Really it's the opposite. The administration is saying it won't rule out military action IF China establishes a presence there. There is a parallel to the the Ukraine situation, but with China as the aggressor instead of Russia. Of course, in the Ukraine situation, we wouldn't rule out sending troops to Europe, and that wasn't exactly a deterrent.

There may be a little bit of showmanship at play as well. Of course, the Solomon Islands would probably like some assurance that we won't let China roll over them, as well as some 'aid' sent their way. China may just be sabre rattling, testing the waters, or establishing a precedent for their development elsewhere.

If you look at the location of the Solomons, they're pretty strategically located off Australia's northeastern flank and straddling the lines of communication between Australia and the United States.

The US and Australia fought the hard-pitched battle of Guadalcanal in the Solomons against the Imperial Japanese in WW2. It's a very strategic location - if the Chinese create a major naval base there, then Australia will be in serious jeopardy.

 

[TomFitz]

There were 10k Americans killed driving the Japs out during the Solomon Islands campaign in WW2. If the Chicoms we're to establish military bases there, I'm unsure what military strategy is on the books to deal with it with minimal loss of life, if we took action.

Chicoms?

That was an antique phrase even when Rush Limbaugh revived it for his knuckle dragging audience 30 years ago!

 

[Atreus21]

So if the US invades the Solomon Islands to prevent a Chinese military base from being established there, then how is that morally any different from Russia invading Ukraine to prevent NATO from establishing its presence there?

US won’t rule out military action if China establishes base in Solomon Islands

Ambassador Daniel Kritenbrink warns security pact presents ‘potential regional security implications’

www.theguardian.com

Was NATO about to do that?

 

[Atreus21]

I fall back on economics... if China beat us in a war who will buy all their shit...

No one.

if we beat them then who will make the shit.

Vietnam. India. Mexico. Malaysia. Any one of a number of 2nd and 3rd world countries.

 

[Bodi]

No one.



Vietnam. India. Mexico. Malaysia. Any one of a number of 2nd and 3rd world countries.

They don't have the infrastructure to make top quality shit... it will be like going back to the 70's.