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US postal service - good or bad?

In my opinion the US postal service is ...

  • very good

    Votes: 37 44.6%
  • good

    Votes: 24 28.9%
  • neither good nor bad

    Votes: 10 12.0%
  • bad

    Votes: 6 7.2%
  • very bad

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • rotten

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • other

    Votes: 4 4.8%

  • Total voters
    83
I have had multiple bad experiences with the post office.Mostly them delivering packages and other mail to the wrong address blocks away multiple times. First time it happened I thought maybe the mail carrier just made an accidental mistake.But it happened many more times with different mailmen. When I was living at an apartment complex many of my packages and possibly other mail was going to a completely different apartment complex a couple streets over. I would call the post office to file a complaint, they would put me hold while they pretended to get a manager and eventually hang up.So I would have to go there in person. The person at the post office would name off the apartment complex it was delivered to and tell me thats where their GPS shows it being delivered to. I would point out that apartment complex they showed it being delivered to is on 9th street, the address on my shipping receipt says 7th street. So I would have to call the 1-800 number to file a complaint. It was never explained how the mail man can mistake a one street for the other and how it kept repeatedly happening. So far now my mail and packages haven't been going to the wrong address and that's because I ****ing moved. So if given the option of using USPS,Fed-Ex or UPS when ordering something online I will use Fed-ex or UPS.

An honest report that shows the reality!
 
Well - then the US Post Service is even worse than I thought!

The only way I can get mail is via a P.O. Box in a town that is 8 miles away. The USPS won't deliver to my home. I've had my P.O. Box for so long I've almost forgot my street address since I only use it when I order something from UPS, DHL, or FedEx. The USPS will provide services to the big cities, like Anchorage, Juneau, and Fairbanks, but once you get to the smaller towns it gets more questionable. Once you leave the road-system give up, because there will be absolutely no mail service from the USPS.
 
I see - so far the majority here in the thread are optimists who think that everything that is American is great - and that Trump will make it even greater! :cool:
What a stupid post.
That is not what folks are saying here.
Learn to tread and comprehend.
 
I see - so far the majority here in the thread are optimists who think that everything that is American is great - and that Trump will make it even greater! :cool:

The Post office has nothing to do with Trump.
 
It has now come to light that the US postal service is underfinanced and that the Republican Party under D. Trump planned do weaken it still further. :(

Do you still think that the US postal service is the best in the world - like all US things are always the best things in the world? :cool:

It was good but lately, they're delaying deliveries and losing my bill payments. I almost had my power cut-off because of it.
 
It has now come to light that the US postal service is underfinanced and that the Republican Party under D. Trump planned do weaken it still further. :(

Do you still think that the US postal service is the best in the world - like all US things are always the best things in the world? :cool:

It has not come to light that the USPS is underfinanced. They have enough money to last to the end of 2021.
see article from the NY Times below. If it's in the Times, then is must be true, right?


This is article is especially for those rabid Trump-haters who want to bash Trump for crippling or blocking voters from being able to mail in their ballots in time for the November 3rd election.
I am convinced it is the naive, ignorant, and gullible voter who thinks Trump has something to do with slowing down the mail.
This is article is from the NY Times and, at the end, it makes sure it permits a diversity of messages to be published. I am surprised the NY TImes published an opinion piece that flies in the face of an important meme and talking point of the Democrats.
The article goes against what anti-Trump political pundits and generally dumb people are saying about the so-called "postal crisis". When the Dems get fixated on a phony "scandal" they just won't let go. Like my dog with a bone.



I Was a Postal Service Regulator for 18 Years. Don’t Panic.
Goldway, Ruth Y. New York Times (Online), New York: New York Times Company. Aug 18, 2020.


The service is perfectly capable of handling election mail.

President Trump has threatened to withhold funds from the United States Postal Service. The new postmaster general, Louis DeJoy, has embarked on cost-cutting measures to eliminate overtime and remove sorting machines. These actions have created worries that Americans, reluctant to walk into voting booths because of Covid-19, will be unable to vote by mail this year.

I served as a regulator of the Postal Service for nearly 18 years under three presidents and I urge everyone to be calm. Don’t fall prey to the alarmists on both sides of this debate. The Postal Service is not incapacitated. It is still fully capable of delivering the mail. The focus of our collective concerns should be on how the Postal Service can improve the speed of delivery for election mail.

First, the president is wrong about the Postal Service’s finances. While the agency indeed has financial problems, as a result of a huge increase in packages being sent through the system and a credit line through the CARES Act, it has access to about $25 billion in cash. Its own forecasts predict that it will have enough money to operate into 2021.

The Postal Service’s shaky financial situation has to do in large part with the drop in first-class mail (typically used for letters), about 30 percent less than a decade ago. But the service's expensive, overbuilt infrastructure can absorb the addition of more mail in 2020 — including election mail that is mailed to and sent back by every voter in every state.

The new postmaster general’s management team still includes many knowledgeable and seasoned executives. And the Postal Service has over 500,000 employees who are remarkably honest, dedicated and used to working through emergencies: hurricanes, snow storms, social unrest and pandemics.
 
I see - so far the majority here in the thread are optimists who think that everything that is American is great - and that Trump will make it even greater! :cool:

There is no way to compare the u.S. postal service to the service in another country. How would you do that?
How many other countries have a postal system for 330 million people?
 
In my experience the American Post Service is rotten - and a disgrace for a great nation.

But if Trump says that it is great - then you think it is great? :cool:

Only if you are dumb enough to believe everything Trump says.
 
In my experience the American Post Service is rotten - and a disgrace for a great nation.

But if Trump says that it is great - then you think it is great? :cool:

Your anecdotal evidence about the flaws of our postal system are not worth much.
It's just anecdotal - like your opinion.
 
It has met my needs so far. Now that Tweety lackeys are trying to sabotage it, who knows?
 
The post office is constitutionally mandated.

I realize you don't have much use for the constitution, but there it is.

No. It isn't. Congress is granted the authority to establish "post offices and post roads," but that is not the same as being constitutionally mandated. All it means is that whenever a post office or post road is created, it was done so under the authority granted to Congress by the US Constitution. It does not mandate anything. If Congress so desired they could completely abolish the USPS, because that too is implied in the authority granted to Congress. What Congress has the authority to establish, they also have the authority to abolish.
 
It seems I have thrown the cat among the pigeons - or set the fox among the chickens. :cool:

Not really... This is going nowhere near as well as you think.
 
I voted that it is good. There is room for improvement. I would like to see it improved to automate "Return to sender" requests after so many are made for the same person. We receive 4-5 pieces of junk mail and even important mail that is misdelivered here for the previous resident. We should not have to continue to write on the letters that the person does not live here.

I also may be biased toward the positive with USPS since we had family friends working there for years, so our mail needs were always met by going to see them and knowing we would always be efficiently helped.

I receive invoices from the VA. And I receive medications from a Medicare provider and the VA.
That's about it for me. Mostly trash mail that can hardly fit in the box along with hornets looking for a new place for a hive.
 
You should stick to other foolish topics, politics isn’t for you, imo.

Wine or pastry or Christmas............

How about repeat episodes of "The Apprentice"? Would that be a good topic for discussion?
 
Your poll didn't say anything about Trump. So your conclusion is completely false.


The USPS is very popular with most Americans and has survived a lot worse than Trump...and it will still be here after he is long gone and forgotten.

Foxy,
That's a very positive thing to say about our country.
It's good to know that there are certain institutions that can outlive the "destruction" that Trump has wrought.
Just ask Pelosi, Michelle, Kamala, Joe Biden, Barack, and Chuckie schumer.
 
1. I doubt that it is the best in the world.

2. It is certainly better than that of many other countries (where, I hear, you may need to bribe the postal carrier to get your mail).

3. Maybe it's my imagination, but since the post office has lost so much business because of email, some employees now realize that their secure government jobs (with great pensions) are on the line, so some (many?) employees now have a better attitude.

4. And, I think, the quality of the service depends on the part of the city where one lives. I can understand, for example, that the morale of carriers may be pretty low in areas where irresponsible residents let dangerous dogs run loose and where some people steal mail out of the mailboxes.

5. I think that the post office should stop Saturday deliveries in order to save money and to provide good service at least 5 days a week.

6. Everything is changing in this country (what an understatement!), so the post office has no choice but to change, too. The new Dem administration will be loath to fire postal workers since most of them are presumably Democrats, so perhaps attrition is the most probable way to downsize the post office.

Rather than parse every one of your points, I will say that I almost entirely agree with you.
There is no real need to have six days of mail delivery. I mean, what would be the point?
If it wasn't for bulk mail, where would the post office be?
All of those colorful catalogs that clutter coffee tables all over the country.
Yes, you all know who you are.
 
If the GOP had not used "big government" to interfere with the USPS operations as W did during his administration...taking an organization that turned itself around and created billions if profit revenue and forcing it to use that money and any future profits to secure pensions for the next 75 years of people who haven't even started working for the USPS and thereby bankrupting it (wait, isn't that an example of socialism?)...and then to have a Trump goon do more harm to the organization for the sake of winning an election for Trump....

Then there is a reasonable chance that we would have had a fully functional, independent government agency mandated by the Constitution that might even have been profitable, or at the very least, not nearly as much of a suck on taxpayers as other agencies are.

But noooooo....the GOP and Trump had to screw this up as well.....
 
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The USPS is funded almost entirely by postage.

Here is something to ponder based on your unfounded comment:

Is the USPS in debt?
USPS has lost $69 billion over the past 11 fiscal years—including $3.9 billion in fiscal year 2018. USPS's total unfunded liabilities and debt ($143 billion at the end of fiscal year 2018) have grown to double its annual revenue.

This from the GAO

U.S. GAO - Key Issues: U.S. Postal Service's Financial Viability ...
 
I voted very good , in my opinion anyway.

There is an old saying if it ain't broke and it works good don't mess with it.

In 2017, 2018, 2019 most of 2020, then all of a sudden about 6 months before election the postal service comes into question.
Coincidence? I think not it has to do with mail in voting. Votes count on both sides I think Trump is scared the mail in votes will not be for him.
If I am wrong , Mr. President prove it back off the postal service let people vote for who they choose , and how they vote.

The postal service is not perfect but then again neither is the Airlines , the oil companies, or the Stock exchange , is the government to cut funding to these??:peace
 
If the GOP had not used "big government" to interfere with the USPS operations as W did during his administration...taking an organization that turned itself around and created billions if profit revenue and forcing it to use that money and any future profits to secure pensions for the next 75 years of people who haven't even started working for the USPS and thereby bankrupting it (wait, isn't that an example of socialism?)...and then to have a Trump goon do more harm to the organization for the sake of winning an election for Trump....

Then there is a reasonable chance that we would have had a fully functional, independent government agency mandated by the Constitution that might even have been profitable, or at the very least, not nearly as much of a suck on taxpayers as other agencies are.

But noooooo....the GOP and Trump had to screw this up as well.....

What an apocalyptic statement coming from someone who believes everything Pelosi says:

and then to have a Trump goon do more harm to the organization for the sake of winning an election for Trump....

How has it been screwed up when we are still 70 days from the election?
What have you seen that has translated into problems for our country?
 
I know a lot about it - and I know a lot about other postal services. So I can compare. :) :2wave:

I think you might know whatever it is that Pelosi is saying about the "destruction" of the USPS by Trump and DeJoy.
What problems, besides bleeding taxpayer dollars, does the USPS have that was caused by Trump?
 
Then there is a reasonable chance that we would have had a fully functional, independent government agency mandated by the Constitution that might even have been profitable, or at the very least, not nearly as much of a suck on taxpayers as other agencies are.
You clearly need to get out of your leftist bubble. Once you get outside of the major cities the USPS is less than useless. We pay for services that are not being provided, except to those who live in the big cities.

If everyone who didn't get USPS services refused to pay for the USPS, then your postage would more than triple for the exact same services. Just like with education, millions of Americans are paying for government services that they will never receive.
 
Just going from my own personal experiences, if I were to compare USPS to competitive delivery, ie: UPS, FedEx, Amazon, etc., I would say, without a doubt that USPS is as good, and probably better, than the competition.

Now, in regards to competency v. cost, I couldn't say because I don't know. I mean, I think USPS is great, but if it takes a zillion dollars to make it that way, that is worth looking in to in my opinion.

But I have been using USPS for my personal and business mail delivery and I would say USPS bats about a .995. I can't say that about the competitiors. I do have to use UPS, FedEx, etc., on occasion and I really have no complaints there but there have been incidences, delays, times I missed the delivery driver and I had to go to their facilities to pick things up. That wasn't too cool. But when you consider my volume of mail, and the number of times mail/USPS/FedEX, etc., has dropped the ball, it's not even a flea on an elephant's ass. I think USPS screwed up once in 14 years. And even that was no real biggee. My mail got delivered next door. The neighbor dropped it off. That's a pretty good record.

I give USPS 5 out of 5 stars.

But some of the people I know who work there are bat**** crazy. LOL! (Love 'em anyway.)
 
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