The party group rarely go above ~70% and 60% in terms of liberal/conservative. I am most curious about you as an outlier- do you think you have a more positive view of evangelical ideals conpared to other liberal atheists you’ve met? Another factor I noticed is controlling for age atheists might actually be more ‘swing’ overtime as they grow - they are slightly average agreement but also swing young which may overrepresent the liberal compared to moderate categories seen when contrasting to agonistics or other affliates who rate belief in God low.I don't know, I'm a conservative atheist and studies suggest that about 20% of atheists are conservative, so not sure what that says.
The party group rarely go above ~70% and 60% in terms of liberal/conservative. I am most curious about you as an outlier- do you think you have a more positive view of evangelical ideals conpared to other liberal atheists you’ve met? Another factor I noticed is controlling for age atheists might actually be more ‘swing’ overtime as they grow - they are slightly average agreement but also swing young which may overrepresent the liberal compared to moderate categories seen when contrasting to agonistics or other affliates who rate belief in God low.
Based on Pew Religion & Public Life Survey:
Predominately Democratic Liberals
Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus, Agnostics, Jewish
Predominately Democratic Conservatives/Moderates
Historically Black Protestants, Muslims
Predominately Swing Voters
Orthodox, Catholics, Mainline Protestants, Nothing in particulars
Predominately Republican Conservative
Mormons, Evangelical Protestants
Predominately apolitical
Jehovah's Witnesses
Do you think US politics is currently shaped by these religious divides? It is pretty obvious from this list that the Republican - Democratic spectrum could be approximated in relative adherence to Evangelical Protestants ideals. If you are either differ from the expected conservative/liberal reblican/democrat norm of your affliation - do you think you have a differnt view of Evangelical Protestant ideals and or less of one than those typical of your categorization?
I personally as 'Nothing in particular' would meet the predominate trend as a swing voter traditionally although as of late have been more republican leaning, but do remain fully open to non-mainline democrats.
I know a large number of Democratic liberals that are Christian in my local area, specifically Catholic and Episcopalian.
"...Democratic liberals that are Christian..."
That's getting to be more and more of an oxymoron - i.e. liberal Christian.
I've yet to me even one liberal Christian who doesn't royally screw up Christianity and the scriptures.
That is because you surround yourself with people of your own political ilk, rather than people with common sense and compassion.
He might actually be on to something. According to the data, if we ignore party and just go by identified conservatives, liberals and moderates. From christians - agnostics. The % of liberals is strongly correlated to % of people who answered belief in God as anything but absolute. There is only two exceptions Historically Black Protestants & Muslims. I would note with Historically Black Protestants despite being overwhelemingly democrat, conservatives remains higher than liberals. In both cases, the #1 policy issue difference from the average is disproportionate large amount of people reporting believing in bigger government, at the same ratio as the amplifer found.That is because you surround yourself with people of your own political ilk, rather than people with common sense and compassion.
Based on Pew Religion & Public Life Survey:
Predominately Democratic Liberals
Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus, Agnostics, Jewish
Predominately Democratic Conservatives/Moderates
Historically Black Protestants, Muslims
Predominately Swing Voters
Orthodox, Catholics, Mainline Protestants, Nothing in particulars
Predominately Republican Conservative
Mormons, Evangelical Protestants
Predominately apolitical
Jehovah's Witnesses
Do you think US politics is currently shaped by these religious divides? It is pretty obvious from this list that the Republican - Democratic spectrum could be approximated in relative adherence to Evangelical Protestants ideals. If you are either differ from the expected conservative/liberal reblican/democrat norm of your affliation - do you think you have a differnt view of Evangelical Protestant ideals and or less of one than those typical of your categorization?
I personally as 'Nothing in particular' would meet the predominate trend as a swing voter traditionally although as of late have been more republican leaning, but do remain fully open to non-mainline democrats.
That's another bird cage claim of yours.
This is a very interesting point, when taking into account doubt in God. You can pretty accurately predicate liberal % (accurate via policy prefernce) which is loosely related to democratic lean [even without having to take into account big tellers like age and gender] with two big religious exceptions both having a high black population. The conservative and moderate elements being a tad more complicated.Blacks have been voting Democratic in or close to the 90% range since LBJ regardless of religion.
Hispanics are higher than average in Catholic, Buddhist & unaffiliated(esp religious important). Compatibles with lower might be orthodox, hindus & agnostics plus difference between unaffiliated(religious important) and unaffiliated(religious unimportant).Again regardless of religion. Hispanics also have been Democratic since Carter with the exception of Cuban Americans.
Thanks for you thoughtout reply and answering my question!
This is a very interesting point, when taking into account doubt in God. You can pretty accurately predicate liberal % (accurate via policy prefernce) which is loosely related to democratic lean [even without having to take into account big tellers like age and gender] with two big religious exceptions both having a high black population. The conservative and moderate elements being a tad more complicated.
The three groups with high black populations are:
- Historically black protestant (94%)
- Muslims (28%)
- Jehovah's Witnesses (27%) [apolitcal]
Now, "Historically black protestants" are as expected by racial lines 80% democratic leaning & 10% no lean. With only an 11% non-absolute belief in god we predict ~12-6% liberal. We instead find 24%, with 33% moderate & 36% conservative. Again when you compare those labels to policy questions they play out well and are far more telling than party lean alone. This is similar to what we find for muslims.
We also see the policy issue that is changing the normal dynamics seems to be much higher positive view of bigger government. Also true of muslims. This is also a factor in similar comparisons like jewish and new age, in so much as, we see more non-liberal voting democrats and liberals with jews but not so with simlar new age who are much less favourable view of government despite being simlar in terms of absolute belief in God.
This is supported by the fact, the black vote got up to 90% via policy pushes by FDR & LBJ both famous for their expensive government policies.
Hispanics are higher than average in Catholic, Buddhist & unaffiliated(esp religious important). Compatibles with lower might be orthodox, hindus & agnostics plus difference between unaffiliated(religious important) and unaffiliated(religious unimportant).
Orthodox compared Catholic, the biggest difference seen is again 'favourability of bigger government', which in that case is actually balanced out with more non-liberal democratic voters (orthodox) verse more liberals(catholics).
In terms of Buddhists & NAs, we again find only where there is more positive views of government a rise in non-liberal democratic lean and liberal by belief in God.
All in all. Religion(when balanced with absolute belief in God) is seeming better than race at predicting social policy preferences(and easier to determine). A related challange of my current project, but I too remain somewhat skeptical. Thanks again for the input.
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