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US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

apdst said:
What mass murder?
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I wasn't referring to any particular genocidal mass murder, could be Sudan, Rwanda, WWII. We see the pictures in the press.
 

One of the problems with legalized torture and murder is that he people doing start enjoying it.
 
cpwill said:
My life was probably saved at one point because by torture. The really ****ty thing about torture is that it works.
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It might work sometimes, but then pretty much anything might work sometimes.

What level SERE graduate are you?
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Why is that necessary?
 
Henrin said:
It might work sometimes, but then pretty much anything might work sometimes.
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Lots of things do. Torture, unfortunately, however, is very often effective, especially if done intelligently. The number of people who are actually able to resist over time is extremely small.

Why is that necessary?
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You stated I can think of more effective and less inhumane ways to save peoples lives; which seemed to suggest that you actually had a level of expertise in this subject. So I asked if you did.
 
Hard Truth said:
One of the problems with legalized torture and murder is that he people doing start enjoying it.
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That is very true. Studies of guards suggest that it is not, in fact, the new and untested guards who are the dangers for abuse, but rather the ones who are older, a bit more experienced, and have gotten desensitized to it.
 
cpwill said:
Lots of things do. Torture, unfortunately, however, is very often effective, especially if done intelligently. The number of people who are actually able to resist over time is extremely small.
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Who said anything about resisting over the long hall? You rape someone, threaten to cut off their nads, etc, etc, they will probably say something to make you stop.

You stated I can think of more effective and less inhumane ways to save peoples lives; which seemed to suggest that you actually had a level of expertise in this subject. So I asked if you did.
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Do I need to pass some test to have it? I was unaware the government had knowledge no one else in the world had access too.
 
Henrin said:
Who said anything about resisting over the long hall? You rape someone, threaten to cut off their nads, etc, etc, they will probably say something to make you stop.
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Yup. And when you take away people's ability to perform reliable deception (which is a pretty cognitively complex act, unlike recall and verbalization) through shock, fear, sleep-deprivation and the like, then all they are left to tell you is what they know.

Do I need to pass some test to have it?
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It is usually gained through study and experience, yes. That is why we have trained interrogators who go through these courses instead of, you know, pulling people off the street and sitting them across from detainees.

I was unaware the government had knowledge no one else in the world had access too.
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well then you haven't been paying attention to the news. Allow me to provide you with a baseline piece.
 
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