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US official: US intel says prince ordered Khashoggi killing

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From Associated Press

US official: US intel says prince ordered Khashoggi killing

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a U.S. official said Friday. The Saudi government has denied the claim.

The conclusion will bolster efforts in Congress to further punish the close U.S. ally for the killing. The Trump administration this week sanctioned 17 Saudi officials for their alleged role in the killing, but lawmakers have called on the administration to curtail arms sales to
Saudi Arabia or take other harsher punitive measures.

The U.S. official familiar with the intelligence agencies’ conclusion was unauthorized to speak publicly about it and spoke on condition of anonymity. It was first reported by The Washington Post.

Saudi Arabia’s top diplomat has said the crown prince had “absolutely” nothing to do with the killing.

COMMENT:-

"In response to this report, President Trump has announced crushing sanctions - Saudi Arabian royalty will now be required to pay the full 'rack rate' at all Trump hotels and will NOT be allowed to visit either Disneyland or Disneyworld and Saudi Arabia will no longer be able to purchase American weapons (unless they pay for them) - against Saudi Arabia." FAUX Newz
 

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From Associated Press

US official: US intel says prince ordered Khashoggi killing

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a U.S. official said Friday. The Saudi government has denied the claim.

The conclusion will bolster efforts in Congress to further punish the close U.S. ally for the killing. The Trump administration this week sanctioned 17 Saudi officials for their alleged role in the killing, but lawmakers have called on the administration to curtail arms sales to
Saudi Arabia or take other harsher punitive measures.

The U.S. official familiar with the intelligence agencies’ conclusion was unauthorized to speak publicly about it and spoke on condition of anonymity. It was first reported by The Washington Post.

Saudi Arabia’s top diplomat has said the crown prince had “absolutely” nothing to do with the killing.

COMMENT:-

"In response to this report, President Trump has announced crushing sanctions - Saudi Arabian royalty will now be required to pay the full 'rack rate' at all Trump hotels and will NOT be allowed to visit either Disneyland or Disneyworld and Saudi Arabia will no longer be able to purchase American weapons (unless they pay for them) - against Saudi Arabia." FAUX Newz

Another rumor sourced from unnamed people.

yawn...
 

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From Associated Press

US official: US intel says prince ordered Khashoggi killing

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a U.S. official said Friday. The Saudi government has denied the claim.

The conclusion will bolster efforts in Congress to further punish the close U.S. ally for the killing. The Trump administration this week sanctioned 17 Saudi officials for their alleged role in the killing, but lawmakers have called on the administration to curtail arms sales to
Saudi Arabia or take other harsher punitive measures.

The U.S. official familiar with the intelligence agencies’ conclusion was unauthorized to speak publicly about it and spoke on condition of anonymity. It was first reported by The Washington Post.

Saudi Arabia’s top diplomat has said the crown prince had “absolutely” nothing to do with the killing.

COMMENT:-

"In response to this report, President Trump has announced crushing sanctions - Saudi Arabian royalty will now be required to pay the full 'rack rate' at all Trump hotels and will NOT be allowed to visit either Disneyland or Disneyworld and Saudi Arabia will no longer be able to purchase American weapons (unless they pay for them) - against Saudi Arabia." FAUX Newz

Crushing sactions indeed! I mean the Saudis may not be able to move their collective wrist for several microseconds after a devastating blow to the wrist such as this. The Saudi scumbag coke suckaires, and I am assured it is their favorite drink, must be quivering in their lounge chairs with Yemenis for footstools. I dasn't envision the long term after effects because they will be gone by the time I finish writing. The mythical $100 billion+ arms purchases from the USA are endangered by murder most foul at the hands of one of the Main Twitter genius's great allies, don't ya' know? His touch hole ( means related enough that one occasionally touches hole, but not necessarily by blood ) relationship with the Saudi Royal scumbags could be endangered. It's an MSM thing, as in perception, don't ya' know? And he tries so hard not to get any on himself, eh? That's tough when you're wallowing. Erdogan is doing all he can to hep' 'em out by stirring the pot and I think he's getting ready to use a bigger stick. Allegedly, people will be losing their heads in this matter, but first you find them guilty, death sentence by beheading and then you pardon them. Problem solved. Mueller take note.
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From Associated Press

US official: US intel says prince ordered Khashoggi killing

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a U.S. official said Friday. The Saudi government has denied the claim.

The conclusion will bolster efforts in Congress to further punish the close U.S. ally for the killing. The Trump administration this week sanctioned 17 Saudi officials for their alleged role in the killing, but lawmakers have called on the administration to curtail arms sales to
Saudi Arabia or take other harsher punitive measures.

The U.S. official familiar with the intelligence agencies’ conclusion was unauthorized to speak publicly about it and spoke on condition of anonymity. It was first reported by The Washington Post.

Saudi Arabia’s top diplomat has said the crown prince had “absolutely” nothing to do with the killing.

COMMENT:-

"In response to this report, President Trump has announced crushing sanctions - Saudi Arabian royalty will now be required to pay the full 'rack rate' at all Trump hotels and will NOT be allowed to visit either Disneyland or Disneyworld and Saudi Arabia will no longer be able to purchase American weapons (unless they pay for them) - against Saudi Arabia." FAUX Newz

Maybe Trump should go ask the orb who did it.

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Another rumor sourced from unnamed people.

yawn...

Quite right.

After all, you weren't there to personally witness what happened so it would be unsafe to conclude that anything at all had happened.
 

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Quite right.

After all, you weren't there to personally witness what happened so it would be unsafe to conclude that anything at all had happened.

That's why I don't come to any conclusions.
 

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From Associated Press

US official: US intel says prince ordered Khashoggi killing

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a U.S. official said Friday. The Saudi government has denied the claim.

The conclusion will bolster efforts in Congress to further punish the close U.S. ally for the killing. The Trump administration this week sanctioned 17 Saudi officials for their alleged role in the killing, but lawmakers have called on the administration to curtail arms sales to
Saudi Arabia or take other harsher punitive measures.

The U.S. official familiar with the intelligence agencies’ conclusion was unauthorized to speak publicly about it and spoke on condition of anonymity. It was first reported by The Washington Post.

Saudi Arabia’s top diplomat has said the crown prince had “absolutely” nothing to do with the killing.

COMMENT:-

"In response to this report, President Trump has announced crushing sanctions - Saudi Arabian royalty will now be required to pay the full 'rack rate' at all Trump hotels and will NOT be allowed to visit either Disneyland or Disneyworld and Saudi Arabia will no longer be able to purchase American weapons (unless they pay for them) - against Saudi Arabia." FAUX Newz

ho hum. The Saudi's have done much worse than kill Jamal Khashoggi. Khashoggi should have known his actions would have resulten in blowback.
 

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What is the US's interest in the death of a foreign national, even if he was a reporter?
 

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What is the US's interest in the death of a foreign national, even if he was a reporter?

This event and the US reaction to it carries rich irony and hypocrisy.

We're pitching a big fit over the killing of a journalist, even as we see to it that another journalist will die or be imprisoned for life for telling the truth and exposing the crimes of the US government.

Truth is stranger than fiction.
 

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That's why many countries refuse to allow "freedom of the press."

It is a fact that freedom of the press allows a lot of fake news to pollute people's minds.


There still is NO proof that the Crown Prince ordered the killing.


This premature conclusion is being driven by the Washington Post because (a) the murdered man wrote some articles for the Post and (b) the owner of that newspaper really "dislikes" the President.
 

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From Associated Press

US official: US intel says prince ordered Khashoggi killing

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a U.S. official said Friday. The Saudi government has denied the claim.

The conclusion will bolster efforts in Congress to further punish the close U.S. ally for the killing. The Trump administration this week sanctioned 17 Saudi officials for their alleged role in the killing, but lawmakers have called on the administration to curtail arms sales to
Saudi Arabia or take other harsher punitive measures.

The U.S. official familiar with the intelligence agencies’ conclusion was unauthorized to speak publicly about it and spoke on condition of anonymity. It was first reported by The Washington Post.

Saudi Arabia’s top diplomat has said the crown prince had “absolutely” nothing to do with the killing.

COMMENT:-

"In response to this report, President Trump has announced crushing sanctions - Saudi Arabian royalty will now be required to pay the full 'rack rate' at all Trump hotels and will NOT be allowed to visit either Disneyland or Disneyworld and Saudi Arabia will no longer be able to purchase American weapons (unless they pay for them) - against Saudi Arabia." FAUX Newz

It is hard to imagine that something like this could happen without the expressed consent of at least someone in the royal family, but I am not sure what, exactly, we are supposed to do about it.
 

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This event and the US reaction to it carries rich irony and hypocrisy.

We're pitching a big fit over the killing of a journalist, even as we see to it that another journalist will die or be imprisoned for life for telling the truth and exposing the crimes of the US government.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

Who is the journalist that is imprisoned?
 

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That's why I don't come to any conclusions.

And, since Mr. Trump didn't personally witness the Crown Prince giving specific and explicit instructions (in English) to have Mr. Kashoggi tortured, murdered, and dismembered, he will take the same position as you do.
 

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ho hum. The Saudi's have done much worse than kill Jamal Khashoggi. Khashoggi should have known his actions would have resulten in blowback.

Your support for torture and murder is most heartening.
 

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What is the US's interest in the death of a foreign national, even if he was a reporter?

I believe that it has something to do with "supporting the rule of law".

Your belief that the US shouldn't have done anything about the deaths of foreign nationals would have been almost mainstream in 1939, 1940, and 1941. After all, the Nazis were "only killing Germans and other non-Americans" - right?
 

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It is hard to imagine that something like this could happen without the expressed consent of at least someone in the royal family, but I am not sure what, exactly, we are supposed to do about it.

I believe that Mr. Trump is considering extremely harsh sanctions against Saudi Arabia - harsh to the point that the Crown Prince will not be allowed to visit BOTH Disneyland and Disney World (at least not on the same trip).
 

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And, since Mr. Trump didn't personally witness the Crown Prince giving specific and explicit instructions (in English) to have Mr. Kashoggi tortured, murdered, and dismembered, he will take the same position as you do.

Oh...I'm sure Trump has access to many more facts than any unnamed source from the media.
 

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Your support for torture and murder is most heartening.

I don't support either, although I do support enhanced interegation.

The actions of another country does not reflect that of the United States.
 

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This event and the US reaction to it carries rich irony and hypocrisy.
We're pitching a big fit over the killing of a journalist, even as we see to it that another journalist will die or be imprisoned for life for telling the truth and exposing the crimes of the US government.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Tortured and dismembered with no due process
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due process and lawfully charged under U.S. law with civil rights, attorneys, etc., no torture or dismemberment.

You think those are rich irony and hypocrisy? Looks like your post is nuts to me.
 

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Tortured and dismembered with no due process
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due process and lawfully charged under U.S. law with civil rights, attorneys, etc., no torture or dismemberment.

You think those are rich irony and hypocrisy? Looks like your post is nuts to me.

He had all the due process afforded to him by Saudi law, a royal decree was issued and this pro taliban, anti Semitic terrorist sympathizer was whacked
 

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I believe that it has something to do with "supporting the rule of law".

Your belief that the US shouldn't have done anything about the deaths of foreign nationals would have been almost mainstream in 1939, 1940, and 1941. After all, the Nazis were "only killing Germans and other non-Americans" - right?

Well and declaring war on our allies, and declaring war on us.
 

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He had all the due process afforded to him by Saudi law, a royal decree was issued and this pro taliban, anti Semitic terrorist sympathizer was whacked

Because Saudi due process = U.S. due process?

False equivalency stupidity, doesn't' get old does it?
 

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Because Saudi due process = U.S. due process?

False equivalency stupidity, doesn't' get old does it?

Who are we to judge the Saudis? Our laws were written by racist, old white men and the Saudis are virtuous brown skinned victims. Plus you have to remember that men dont have objective rights. Rights are created by the state. In Saudi, the king is the state, so he determines what the rights of Saudi citizens are. Well, he determined that Khashoggi had no rights, so whats the problem?
 

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I don't support either, although I do support enhanced interegation.

"Enhanced interrogation" is the term that people who don't want to vomit because to admit that 'Our Guys" use "torture" would make them puke.

The actions of another country does not reflect that of the United States.

True, but condoning what is done (or pretending that it isn't being done) does.

Condoning what is done (or pretending that it isn't being done) simply because you want to make money from the people who are doing it says a lot.

Having a government that backs a leader who takes the position that "Well, of course, that's a shocking thing for any government to do, but we'll ignore it because they buy a whole lot of really expensive things (things that we couldn't sell elsewhere) from us and it would hurt our economy (read as "lower profits") if we couldn't sell them that stuff." says even more.
 
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