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The misfortune of Poland's location has been demonstrated again and again.
The link was to show how Poland was chopped up to its expansion and back to chopped up and so on over the centuries.
No more, no less than that.
Why have one?
I say, Teddy would be rolling in his grave were he alive today. I know you think he was the first to exceed presidential powers, but I suspect the likes of Putin would have been humble in his presence, to which I say "bully!"
And, not just the world's "unsavory" characters....all of them. I suspect Harper has a good read on Obama. There is still a score to settle there.
I know this is hard for a lefty to understand, but sometime you just have to stop worrying about how you can extract wealth from others and fight.
The Russians are likely going to keep Crimea, but they cannot be allowed to destroy a Ukrainian government that seeks only self-determination and a western orientation.
then perhaps Europe should back them up if they want a proxy war with Russia.
Who asked the CIA to back rebels against the elected government in Ukraine?
The US gets sucked in my ass....
With armies across the globe, a spy network that couldn't see either the fall of the Berlin Wall nor 911 you have your fingers in every pie. And when you **** up, as Obama has done, you risk the lives of Americans as well as allies.
The US was not alone in either Afghanistan nor Iraq, and yet you bleat this garbage about standing alone. It is an insult to the men and women of other countries, Canadians, British, Pole etc. to moan this crap. Canada took the highest rate of casualties in Kandahar, we are on the ground in Iraq and pushing harder against Putin than you are, adding new sanctions weekly. And our troops remain there in non combatant rolls years after our agreed mission had ended.
You haven't 'handled' ****. It was French, Canadian and British jets flying missions with you over Libya and look what you have as a result? You can't even bring to justice the assassins of your servicemen. And now after allies helped you, there is a greater, more dangerous threat. Any nation would gladly follow that path....
Your president lies about pipelines and complains he doesn't want "Canadian oil" on his land, and you expect us to elope with you again? We have thousands of miles of American pipeline feeding you but u-uh, but "oh, could you spare some lives...we have another war..?"
How about you finish one, say Iraq, before flexing muscles where you have been specifically warned not to.
so buy a plane ticket and go join the fight. the rest of us are sick to death of an endless state of unfunded and undeclared war.
There is no Europe without the US. That is the fundamental point of NATO. Severing the Europe-US link is a strategic objective for Putin.
So you're tearing up NATO?
Great strategy, surrender before a shot because they can punch back....
i want us out of all of it. if the world wants an army, it should build and fund one.
bring them all home.
I didn't realize you spoke for "the rest of us". When did you obtain that power, comrade?
The Russian might be a dangerous imperialist. He is not going to use nukes in a skirmish like this one.
But I do not see what the argument is for the US to act, where the EU is letting their friend be robbed at gunpoint. If they want to look treaterouse?
Of course, it can pull us into a nasty spot, if the Russian grabs for Moldova or even Latvia.
Might as well be advocating for unicorns. Your marxist distortions may have to wait, comrade.
you are a hawk; not part of the segment of the public that is sick to death of neoconservatism.
you and i are quits. goodbye.
Might as well be advocating for unicorns. Your marxist distortions may have to wait, comrade.
there is certainly a Europe without the US, but i'm not advocating severing ties. i'm advocating getting out of the war business. we've been in a constant state of war for long enough. it's time to try something else.
With great power comes great responsibility.
Greetings, joG. :2wave:
I posted earlier this week that I thought Putin might make a deal with the Ukraine to provide their oil and gas at a low price in return for using part of their country as a "land bridge" to get to the Crimea and the seaport he has there.
He took a slightly different approach than I had considered, though, by reminding them that they owe Russia billions for the oil and gas they have already used, and unless they pay up, they will do without any further deliveries from Russia, and it's Winter over there. The Ukrainian government doesn't have the money, or they would not have been buying on credit in the first place, so one of two things will probably happen, IMO, but who knows.
A "land bridge" deal may yet be made, or the Ukraine may ask other countries, including us, for monetary assistance to pay their debt to Russia, and continue to stay warm. Either choice benefits Russia, who has apparently decided to use capitalism as a means to get what he wants. I agree with others on here that he won't use a nuke - he doesn't have to. He is legally justified in asking for payment for gas and oil already delivered, and most people could not fault him for that. Unfortunately we have an $18 trillion dollar debt, so we'll probably have to borrow money from China to help the Ukrainian government pay Russia - you can't make this s*** up! - or run the printing presses full speed ahead, putting us even farther in debt! *shaking head in disbelief*
The problem is That that won't cut it. If we don't manage to create a robust global security system the future will be rather unpleasant.
and when your roof is leaking, you stay home and fix the roof for a while.
Fixing my roof does not prevent me from helping put out a fire in my neighbor's yard.
Ukraine is not our neighbor, and a proxy war with Russia is much more serious than a small fire in the neighbor's yard. but you already knew that.
Greetings, joG. :2wave:
I posted earlier this week that I thought Putin might make a deal with the Ukraine to provide their oil and gas at a low price in return for using part of their country as a "land bridge" to get to the Crimea and the seaport he has there.
He took a slightly different approach than I had considered, though, by reminding them that they owe Russia billions for the oil and gas they have already used, and unless they pay up, they will do without any further deliveries from Russia, and it's Winter over there. The Ukrainian government doesn't have the money, or they would not have been buying on credit in the first place, so one of two things will probably happen, IMO, but who knows.
A "land bridge" deal may yet be made, or the Ukraine may ask other countries, including us, for monetary assistance to pay their debt to Russia, and continue to stay warm. Either choice benefits Russia, who has apparently decided to use capitalism as a means to get what he wants. I agree with others on here that he won't use a nuke - he doesn't have to. He is legally justified in asking for payment for gas and oil already delivered, and most people could not fault him for that. Unfortunately we have an $18 trillion dollar debt, so we'll probably have to borrow money from China to help the Ukrainian government pay Russia - you can't make this s*** up! - or run the printing presses full speed ahead, putting us even farther in debt! *shaking head in disbelief*
How did Ukraine ever get into that situation! And how did we?
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