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US judge tosses machine gun possession case, calls ban unconstitutional

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(Reuters) - A federal judge has dismissed charges against a Kansas man for possessing a machine gun, saying prosecutors failed to establish that a federal ban on owning such weapons is constitutional.
The decision by U.S. District Judge John Broomes in Wichita on Wednesday appeared to mark the first time a court has held that banning machine guns is unconstitutional after the conservative-majority U.S. Supreme Court in 2022 issued a landmark ruling that expanded gun rights.


I honestly didn't see that one coming...
 
Our partisan SCOTUS insists there are no limits to firearms.
They also say, to placate people temporarily, that they CAN impose some limits, based on according to them, nothing.
Limited by? According to them, nothing.
Can be undone with another ruling trivially? Sure, because precedent means nothing to them, even though they claim it does when it suits them.
Federalist society sophists, here to push their agenda and not put the Constitution first...

Our SCOTUS has been corrupted, and now it would take an amendment to get firearms under control.

Until then, thoughts and prayers.

Someone tried to shoot Trump with an AR-15, no one seemed to care. I mean, wow.
Secret Service? Too many guns, we're tired boss, accidents are gonna happen.
Let's put everyone in a ballistic bubble like Trump is now...I mean, send your kids to school in a hamster ball.

All because they REFUSE sensible gun laws.
 
I'm surprise but eventually there would come a judge who pushes the firearm laws like some do other MAGA causes. Judge shopping in Texas is a tradition. It will be interesting to see if this 'logic' holds up...
 
Gang bangers with glocks equipped with switches have become epidemic and nobody seems to care anymore. You might as well fully legalize machine guns.
 
dmpi said:
Gang bangers with glocks equipped with switches have become epidemic and nobody seems to care anymore. You might as well fully legalize machine guns.
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Surrender, now that was an option I didn't see coming from you unless you really want every knucklehead running around on full auto....
I figured more like the appeals court will knock this down and while Alito and Thomas might support making full auto the law of the land the rest will probably baulk...
 
A judge that doesn't see 80 years of precedent as a reason? WTF is with these guys?
 
Because I am a part of the human race, any man's death diminishes me. However, had that shot missed an inch the other way, the pumpkin would have vaporized on national TV. I can't help but believe gun control would be moving ahead. And if he had died from covid, how many more thousands of Americans would be alive?
 

You couldn't make it up.
 
Well, soon we'll find out what that means....even more than bumpstocks.
 
I don't see anywhere in the Constitution where carrying machine guns is banned. Not that I like the idea of people being able to do so.
 
Two things.
1. The opposition apparently didn't make their case.
2. The 2nd amendment supports gun ownership and doesn't list any restrictions. So to get a restriction the case would have to be well defined and if this owner has not previous gun law issues, that case against him and the 2nd would be difficult.
 

The 2nd Amendment doesn't define what an armament is/was.
 
Bok Tuklo said:


What a cluster****!
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Why?

The first ban on machine guns happened in the thirties where the incompetent police and the incompetent government or corrupt government was either purposefully or stupidly unable to capture criminals they created by paying attention to the temperance movement.

The government's actions created organized crime at least in the manifestation that it exists today by giving them a income source contraband to smuggle. And ever since they've been doing this over and over and over again.

So to cover up for their stupidity or corruption not sure which not like it makes a difference, they said okay everyone that had nothing to do with this at all you're not allowed to have something because we're too stupid to control the monster we created.

The government has never been your friend I don't know why people think that it is.
 
CLAX1911 said:
The government has never been your friend I don't know why people think that it is.
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My clean water, solid waste disposal, sewer system, transportation infrastructure, constabulary, system for adjudicating disputes, contract enforcement, social safety net, food safety, and the complete lack of roving bands of rapist cannibals say otherwise.

Private enterprise, on the other hand …
 
"Based on nothing." True

Based whatever agenda 5 or 6 of them is currently pushing.
Mach said:
Our SCOTUS has been corrupted, and now it would take an amendment to get firearms under control.

Until then, thoughts and prayers.
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And hoorays for the 2nd Amendment, which rightly reigns supreme!
Based on a lack of desire to try to protect Americans, including American children.
 
Do machine guns pass the common use test used in Heller?
 
Yeah the government likes to take credit for what private contractors do all the time. They can't provide you with anything because they have no money your neighbor's provided that at exorbitant cost because a bunch of neersowell bureaucrats need to skim off the top.

Thinking the parasites are your friend is part of what parasites do. Municipal utility districts seem to function just fine without having to pay pensions to bureaucrats.

Public schools are the governments way of indoctrinating you into believing you need them.
 

Rent seeking scum are the biggest parasitic cohort in our system. Government is value added. The only “skim” is from the fat, worthless capital class sitting around with their trophy wives and cabana boys doing drugs and laughing at all the simps caping for them on the Internet.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
Rent seeking scum are the biggest parasitic cohort in our system.
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Rent seeking? Not sure I've heard of such a thing but okay
Bok Tuklo said:
Government is value added.
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Subtracted.
Bok Tuklo said:
The only “skim” is from the fat,
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No the fat own them. To the point they'll deny people the ability to elect their property.
Bok Tuklo said:
worthless capital class sitting around with their trophy wives and cabana boys doing drugs and laughing at all the simps caping for them on the Internet.
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And voting for their property. The government. You are their slaves. Tricking you into believing you need them is the scam.
 
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