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US Iran intelligence 'is incorrect'

Billo_Really

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Definition of a "Moron" = Anyone who takes what is coming out of Washington at face value without corroborating evidence.

In the "here we go again" scenario, statements by the Bush Administration regarding Iran's nuclear ambitions are turning out to be false. This is getting ridiculous. Especially after reading some of the evidence that has been presented.
US Iran intelligence 'is incorrect'
Julian Borger in Vienna Thursday February 22, 2007 Guardian Unlimited

Much of the intelligence on Iran's nuclear facilities provided to UN inspectors by US spy agencies has turned out to be unfounded, diplomatic sources in Vienna said today.

At the heart of the debate are accusations - spearheaded by the US - that Iran is secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons.
However, most of the tip-offs about supposed secret weapons sites provided by the CIA and other US intelligence agencies have led to dead ends when investigated by IAEA inspectors, according to informed sources in Vienna.

"Most of it has turned out to be incorrect," a diplomat at the IAEA with detailed knowledge of the agency's investigations said.

"They gave us a paper with a list of sites. [The inspectors] did some follow-up, they went to some military sites, but there was no sign of [banned nuclear] activities.

"Now [the inspectors] don't go in blindly. Only if it passes a credibility test."

One particularly contentious issue was records of plans to build a nuclear warhead, which the CIA said it found on a stolen laptop computer supplied by an informant inside Iran.

In July 2005, US intelligence officials showed printed versions of the material to IAEA officials, who judged it to be sufficiently specific to confront Iran.

Tehran rejected the material as forged, and there are still reservations within the IAEA about its authenticity, according to officials with knowledge of the internal debate in the agency.

"First of all, if you have a clandestine programme, you don't put it on laptops which can walk away," one official said. "The data is all in English which may be reasonable for some of the technical matters, but at some point you'd have thought there would be at least some notes in Farsi. So there is some doubt over the provenance of the computer."
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I for one do not like being played for a fool. But that is exactly what I think my government is doing. Is it time to vote again?
 
Give it a month and Bush will be saying "We never claimed Iran was trying to develop nuclear weapons."
 
It's our government that's playing the fool. Team Bush is still buying into questionable and uncorroborated intelligence reports. You'd think people who are capable of getting themselves elected to public office would also be capable of learning from their own mistakes...
 
Oh, who was it who said it best?

"Fool me once, shame on... shame on y-yu... Fool me cant get fooled again."
 
Lachean said:
Oh, who was it who said it best?

"Fool me once, shame on... shame on y-yu... Fool me cant get fooled again."
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"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."

Remarks by the President on Teaching American History and Civic Education

Nice, you said it almost verbatum. I love that quote! :rofl
 
Billo_Really said:
Definition of a "Moron" = Anyone who takes what is coming out of Washington at face value without corroborating evidence.

In the "here we go again" scenario, statements by the Bush Administration regarding Iran's nuclear ambitions are turning out to be false. This is getting ridiculous. Especially after reading some of the evidence that has been presented. I for one do not like being played for a fool. But that is exactly what I think my government is doing. Is it time to vote again?
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The IAEA? The President can put some 'alternative intelligence' on the IAEA's asss.

A President dedicated to a cause can use this creative tool to prove anything.
 
U.N. calls U.S. data on Iran's nuclear aims unreliable

Tips about supposed secret weapons sites and documents with missile designs haven't panned out, diplomats say.
By Bob Drogin and Kim Murphy, Times Staff Writers February 25, 2007

VIENNA — Although international concern is growing about Iran's nuclear program and its regional ambitions, diplomats here say most U.S. intelligence shared with the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency has proved inaccurate and none has led to significant discoveries inside Iran.
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Why am I not surprised?
 
Originally posted by CurrentAffairs:
November 2008. Hang in there, Bilo.
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It's billo, urentAffairs!
 
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