*buzzer* Nope, sorry, incorrect. OBL, Zarqawi, and the leader of Iraq - they have all said that the goal of their Jihad, their one desire is to create a world that is Muslim-ONLY, that if you don't convert you are killed!
Do you even know what the word 'Jihad' means? Considering what you wrote, I'm guessing not. A Jihad is not the Muslim equivalent to a Crusade. They are entirely different. A Crusade, as we all know, is a holy war in which you go out and attack the enemies of your religion, often in order to take some holy place from their control. A Jihad on the other hand is a
defensive war in order to
protect Islamic areas. Guess what - the West is not an Islamic area and never has been.
Iran's leader has PROMISED to wipe Israel off the face of the eart,
*buzzer* Wrong again. If you actually read the entire quote in context, not take the little piece that the yellow journalists at Fox News give you as the whole story, then you'd know that he was referring to what Iran would do if the USA and Israel attacked Iran.
to come after the U.S. and do the same once Israel is eliminated because, after Israel in their own backyard, the U.S. is the only REAL threat to them reaching that goal of 1 Muslim-only world!
Which they have never worked towards. Ever. The reason we are a threat is that we are supporting secular or otherwise unacceptable (in their view) gov'ts in the Mid East and other heavily Islamic areas (we'll get to your strawman about Ethopia later).
When the leader of a country who has already helped the perpetrators of 9/11
Any proof of this? No, probably not. Don't talk about 9/11. The government with the most blood on its hands in that attack is our own. Or are you telling me that Iran called NORAD and had them stand down?
get into our country secretly tells you that he is going to nuke Israel and the US while he is developing the ability to do so.....
Wrong again. Iran has never said it had nuclear weapons, nor was even working towards them. Even the frickin' CIA has admitted in their own reports that there is "no evidence" at all that Iran is moving towards weaponizing uranium.
I pay attention and tend to believe him.
You aren't paying very good attention, apparently.
When he/Iran has their fingerprints on Islamic violence/enslavement/genocide across the globe (Israel, Lebanon, HOA, Afghanistan, Iraq....) and threatens us....I tend to believe him/them!
No, you tend to believe what the mass media spoon feeds you about Iran while they help Mr. Bush prepare to throw the USA into ANOTHER senseless war.
You demonstrate the same ignorance that many of our Democratic Party representatives do - they believe that all we have to do is come home, become isolationists, that the terrorists will like us more, will treat us with respect and dignity, and will leave us alone!
Rolling. On. The. Floor. Laughing. My. ***. Off. Democrats = isolationists? Yeah, maybe in 1807. But damn sure not in 2007. I'm not even going to point out how interventionist and internationalist the Democratic Party is, because it would take too long and I don't have the energy to point out something that should be given.
These are the guys who beheaded our troops on TV while our politicians were screaming torture about playing music too loud, giving detainees better food than our troops in the field, and for moving a Koran during a cell inspection!
Hey, guess what, they are beheading our troops because our troops are in their HOMELAND. They don't come to Anytown, USA and go off beheading National Guardsmen. Stop with your appeals to emotion and pay attention to what I've been saying.
These are the guys who slaughtered some 1500 of their own men, women, and children recently to frame the US!
ZOMG. Where did that happen again? Ah yes, in THEIR LAND. Yet again, you fail to recognize the most fundamental point I have made.
These are the same people who committed 9/11.
Maybe they did. But even if they did, the reason for it was to get us out of their lands, and to get us to stop supporting what they consider illegal governments - especially Israel.
And these are the same people who have promised to come back HERE and nuke us/finish us off!
Who is doing all this 'we will nuke you' promising? The only people I've ever heard even consider terrorist nuclear attacks a threat are the people in our propaganda machine -erm- media.
So please forgive me if I don't buy the 'Let's just bring everyone back home, change our name to Finland, and everything will be fine' bit!
Hey, you can have endless wars against fanatical opponents. I'd prefer a safer environment to live in, but I don't have the desire to learn Finnish, so I guess I'll just have to give up all my rights so my awesome government can keep me safe from the baddies.
Indeed. A very uninvolved nation, and one that has yet to suffer an attack by Muslim extremists that I'm aware of.
How about the Muslim riots in France?
The ones caused by the French trying to treat them like second-class citizens? Kinda like how African-Americans in this country were rioting in the first half of the 20th century? But you probably think that they had no right to do that either.
france are the biggest weapons whores on the planet, had troops on the groun in the early days of the Iraq war helping Hussein,
We sold him weapons pre-Gulf War, in mass amounts. In fact, most of the biological/chemical weapons he used were supplied by us, along with many of the supplies used in his aggressive war against Iran.
have been selling weapons to the Insurgents, Hezbollah, Iran, and the Muslims who have been committing the genocide down in Africa for years
The insurgents they've been selling weapons to are the anti-Sudanese militias in Darfur, I don't believe they've ever sold weapons to Hezbollah, selling weapons to nations is no crime and we do it all the time, and these Muslims committing genocide in Africa is I'm sure deliberately vague.
- Chirac has been pleading their case for years,
*buzzer* No sir. France has threatened a NUCLEAR ATTACK on states that harbor terrorists. So this 'support' that you seem to have imaginated is probably from their disagreements about going to war in Iraq, probably due to the fact that IRAQ HAD NO CONNECTIONS TO TERRORISM.
but all of a sudden they turned on France and brought the nation to a stand-still, darn near threatening their goverment for a bit.
They (being the terrorists I assume) didn't turn on anyone. France never supported them. France has been a staunch ally of the USA for over one hundred years and is a large part of NATO.
(Their only mistake is that they played their hand too soon!) No one - westerner - has been a bigger friend than France, but it ain't about 'friends'!
The USA's 'War on Terror' has gotten terrorist organizations more recruits than ever before imagined. If anyone is helping terrorism prosper, it is America and Israel.
If you are not Muslim, you are an INFIDEL and MUST DIE! Get it through your head!
If you infringe on their holy lands and immediate surrounding areas. If you don't, then you can be infidels all you want.
How about Ethiopia! Iran (proven) has 'advisors' (who happen to be in the Iranian military) down in Africa assisting the genocidal Muslims hwo have been killing anyone NON-Muslim.
Ethopia has a huge Muslim population. Their government is not following Islamic law. The terrorists are upset, just like they are with every other nation with those circumstances. I've explained this already.
france, BTW, was exposed for having been selling weapons to the genocidal terrorists while blocking the U.N. from sending as much as a 'fact finding' team down there let alone anyreal help.
Selling weapons to people committing genocide...France sounds more like the USA all the time! And speaking of arming radical Muslims, remember who armed the Taliban and most other radical Muslim groups in the Mid East. Remember? Haha, yes, good job USA!
Ethiopia just recently sent in troops to help the refugees and stop at least PART of the genocide! Africa - NOT the MIDDLE EAST!
If you'd actually read my posts instead of just quoting and responding to something that you glanced over, you'd noticed I'd not said they never targeted anything in Africa. The reason? Some areas in Africa are heavily Muslim, and Ethopia is a Muslim holy place for goodness sake. I mean, seriously now. Know your stuff before you come in with 'But that's not part of their goal!!1'
Al Qaeda and Syria just called for Al Qaeda and all Muslims to launch suicide/terrorist attacks against Ethiopia for trying to intervene!
Al-Qaeda called for Al-Qaeda to do something? Erm, what? Oh yeah, that's probably because it isn't an uber sophisticated worldwide terrorist organization with splinter cells under a direct chain of command all the way to OBL. Al-Qaeda is a network of terrorist organizations that the propagandists in Washington have connected arbitarily to make the impression of a threatening enemy where one doesn't exist. It's just like the Cold War parnoids who thought that the Soviets had super-weapons of doom that were decades ahead of the West. Wrong, and made up to scare the American people. "Al-Qaeda" doesn't exist, the term wasn't used by anyone in this "organization" until the USA started using it, and the world only knew of these terrorists by that name - the terrorists used the name so that everyone would know what they were talking about. But I digress. Terrorists will be terrorists. They launch suicide attacks against people who greatly offend their values. That's what they do. But again, it isn't for some world domination of the Muslim faith - it is simply to try to force Mid East AND OTHER HEAVILY MUSLIM AREAS (added emphasis so you can't miss it) governments to adopt their ultra-conservative views and be governed by Islamic Law.
Today's Muslim Extremist threat is almost no different and certainly (arguably) just as dangerous - if not MORE so - than Hitler and the Nazi movement to take over the world, resulting in WW2.
I find myself needing to rearrange furniture in my house so that I can have enough room when I start reading your posts. Muslims are not anywhere near the same nor are they nearly as dangerous to the world. I'm not even going to waste my time pointing out the stupidity of that statement.
One of the main differences right now is that Iran and Syria are not DIRECTLY raising their nation's flags amongst the ranks of the insurgent and terrorist armies they are having wage their war...a war that has been going on for a while and is most certainly ALREADY a World-war.
It is only a world war because the West made it one. From fulfilling the wishes of the Zionists to overthrowing rightful, democratic governments to trying to convert the conservative Muslims of the Middle East to our culture the West is at fault for bringing the wrath of Islamics upon themselves. We didn't think they'd fight back, because they had been our peaceful servants for so long already. We were wrong.
