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US Business Leaders Want Harris’ Stability Not Trump’s Chaos

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"Former President Donald Trump is the kind of salesman no successful businessperson can stand. He’ll promise the world, only to deliver “concepts of a plan.” His economic agenda is a shortsighted mash of policies that scores of top economists and business leaders predict will add up to higher inflation, less stability and lower growth.

Tariffs are Trump’s catch-all economic prescription: He promises duties of up to 20% on all imports — and 60% (sometimes even more) on Chinese goods. The upshot is obvious: Americans will pay more. Inflation, which the Joe Biden-Kamala Harris administration has decidedly tamed, will climb back. As other nations inevitably retaliate with tariffs on US goods, our exports will suffer. Big businesses will struggle; small businesses will go under.

Trump’s plan to deport tens of millions of workers — some of whom he seems to acknowledge would be legal immigrants — would have similar inflationary effects. Constraining the labor supply at such a critical moment in the post-Covid recovery would be foolish at best — all to suit his flat-earth misunderstanding of how commerce works in the 21st century.


Some argue that Trump’s desired corporate tax cuts would boost the economy. A key question is, do we need that stimulus? The robust Biden-Harris economy hardly does — just look at the record stock market or the low unemployment rate. On the contrary, my worry here is that such cuts rekindle inflation. And if Trump pursues tax plans like last time, which were a bonanza for — guess who — real estate investors, it could distort the broader economy more than help it. The problem with Trump is that he practices grifter capitalism."

US Business Leaders Want Harris’ Stability Not Trump’s Chaos

All of us should.
 
Libs are the party of big business now.
 
Libs are the party of big business now.


Agreed. The trade deficit has been ****ing the US rust belt and working poor for decades. We saw that the FREE TRADE policies did NOT deliver what they promised back in the 90s.


They've had plenty of time if htey wanted to do something more "sophisticated" or"nuanced". They choose to just let it ride.

So, now it's our turn. I hope Trump comes in guns ablazing.
 
The MAGA Chuds think he was the best businessman ever! They think he was the best President ever!

Neither of those is true. But, that doesn’t matter — because he was the best businessman and President ever!! Just ask his morally bankrupt sycophants.
 
You think the working poor are getting ****ed now, wait till prices go up 20% to 60% and the retaliatory tariffs on American products kick in.
If that stable genius gets in and does what he says he will you'll have to redefine the word, '****ed'.
 
The problem is Trumpers never get this information. They limit themselves to RW information sources like Fox that tell them only what they want to hear and hold back the rest. Trump will be a disaster and these guys know it.
 
The problem is Trumpers never get this information. They limit themselves to RW information sources like Fox that tell them only what they want to hear and hold back the rest. Trump will be a disaster and these guys know it.
If Fox didn’t lie they would lose their followers, and The Pillow Guy would have to take his money somewhere else!
 

Things are looking up for them. Why spoil it?

 
Libs are the party of big business now.

Haven't you had enough with the chaos?


 
You think the working poor are getting ****ed now, wait till prices go up 20% to 60% and the retaliatory tariffs on American products kick in.
If that stable genius gets in and does what he says he will you'll have to redefine the word, '****ed'.

Trump will just say that it's really the Democrats fault for not doing it earlier and his morons will rejoice.
 
Libs are the party of big business now.


Fake anti-capitalist economic populism for the win!
Of course many business leaders fear Trump's chaos.

One of the central pillars of Trump's economic plan is across-the-board tariffs. Trump has no idea how tariffs work.

His tariffs would:
1) reduce consumer choice
2) increase costs of imported goods. At just the 10% level the Peterson Institute for International Economics estimated the new duties would cost the average middle-class household about $1,700 annually. And the Tax Policy Center said the impact could be $1,350 a year for middle-income households.
3) increase costs of exported goods as all the other nations impose retaliatory tariffs on us
4) reverse an 80-year commitment to free trade
 
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You think the working poor are getting ****ed now, wait till prices go up 20% to 60% and the retaliatory tariffs on American products kick in.
If that stable genius gets in and does what he says he will you'll have to redefine the word, '****ed'.


You had your chance. Two terms of bill clinton. Two terms of obama. A term of Biden.


If you didn't want US to address the problem you should have.
 


Small blips have happened before. I want the generations long trends to be in our favor, like they were for our parent's generation(s).
 
It's hardly shocking that business leaders don't want someone who thinks bankruptcy is a fantastic business strategy to be President again.

I bet they also aren't lining up to buy his scam $100k watches.
 

You look at history and American became an industrial and techonlogical giant, Behind high tariff walls.
 
You look at history and American became an industrial and techonlogical giant, Behind high tariff walls.
Yes indeed. That's also why the developed world has been and can be tolerant of some unfair trade practices by undeveloped nations. So this issue becomes complicated.

As a general rule, and especially between nations of similar economic maturity, tariffs are lose-lose propositions because they interfere with the free market.

What Trump proposes, imposing across-the-board tariffs on everything, everywhere, based on the deluded notion that there are no costs to the nation imposing the tariffs, is insane.

But that's what Trump is planning.
 
I tend to doubt that very powerful and influential industries are going to let him deport enough of their workers to cost them tons of money.
 
You had your chance. Two terms of bill clinton.
Balanced the federal budget. Longest economic expansion in American history (at that time). Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans.
Two terms of obama.
Expanded health insurance to tens of millions of Americans.
A term of Biden.
Oversaw the best economic performance following Covid of all the developed nations.

The U.S. stamped out Covid-caused inflation while maintaining low unemployment, which many economists thought was impossible.
Also,
1. $1.9T American Rescue Plan
2. $1T Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill
3. A landmark climate change bill while also resuscitating U.S. chip manufacturing
4. Expanded the ACA with enhanced subsidies and capped Medicare prescription drug costs
5. The first major gun safety bill in 30 years
6. And for good measure, codified gay marriage into law
 
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I tend to doubt that very powerful and influential industries are going to let him deport enough of their workers to cost them tons of money.
I don't know. It's true that the business community would be having kittens. But the Stephen Miller faction is very powerful in Trump circles. It's also a core Trump promise.

I think the legal and logistical issues would be the greatest barrier, but those would be revealed only after the chaos and terror are in full swing.
 
I think that they will push back hard on some of his extremist policies. Specially, the policies that will seriously hurt them financially. Deporting an entire workforce is exceptionally unlikely, IMO. They'll let him deport enough people to create a humanitarian crisis, though. They don't give as much of a shit about that part.
 
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I think the legal and logistical issues would be the greatest barrier, but those would be revealed only after the chaos and terror are in full swing.
I think that Congress will force some sort of reasonable and limited deportation effort by limiting funding. These corporations have huge influence with both the House and the Senate who count on their campaign donations. They aren't going to tick them off to please Trump.
 
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