Upside of Trump

[calamity]

Congress taking back it's war powers, something it gave up long before anyone would have bet $5 to win a thousand that a guy named Trump would become president.

Congress takes critical step toward reasserting its war-powers control

In 1973, as President Richard M. Nixon escalated an unauthorized bombing campaign in Cambodia, Sen. J. William Fulbright (D-Ark.) asked, “Does the President assert — as kings of old — that as Commander in Chief he can order American forces anywhere for any purpose that suits him?” Later that year, Congress answered unequivocally that he could not, overriding a presidential veto to authorize the War Powers Act.

Forty-five years later, the Senate took an important step last week toward reclaiming the war powers that Congress has abandoned in recent decades, especially as U.S. military adventurism in the Middle East grew in the wake of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. In a surprising 63-to-37 vote, the Senate advanced a resolution introduced by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) that would end U.S. support for Saudi Arabia’s devastation of Yemen. As the first time a war-powers resolution has ever advanced in the Senate, the vote marked a dramatic move toward returning control over matters of war and peace to Congress.

And, that is a good thing.

 

[Mycroft]

Congress taking back it's war powers, something it gave up long before anyone would have bet $5 to win a thousand that a guy named Trump would become president.

Congress takes critical step toward reasserting its war-powers control



And, that is a good thing.

Too bad Congress didn't do that years ago when Obama helped devastate Libya and funnel weapons to ISIS.

 

[Xelor]

Congress taking back it's war powers, something it gave up long before anyone would have bet $5 to win a thousand that a guy named Trump would become president.

Congress takes critical step toward reasserting its war-powers control



And, that is a good thing.

Red:
It is, until it isn't.

The nature and extent of power Congress doles to and withholds from a POTUS varies depending on the sanity and sagacity of the POTUS and on the circumstances in which the country finds itself. There is no set rule that's always going to be the one to apply. It's a matter of balancing, based on the circumstances, restraint, flexibility, oversight, trustworthiness and sagacity.

 

[calamity]

Red:
It is, until it isn't.

The nature and extent of power Congress doles to and withholds from a POTUS varies depending on the sanity and sagacity of the POTUS and on the circumstances in which the country finds itself. There is no set rule that's always going to be the one to apply. It's a matter of balancing, based on the circumstances, restraint, flexibility, oversight, trustworthiness and sagacity.

True, and this president is not trustworthy

 

[lurchadams]

Too bad Congress didn't do that years ago when Lurch fixed ->the GOP destabilized the mideast by invading Iraq and trying to establish it's own puppet government. Total-fail and waste blood and treasure[/B]

There, I fixed it for you.

 

[Fletch]

There, I fixed it for you.

The only problem with that is that congress voted to do it.

 

[jnug]

Red:
It is, until it isn't.

The nature and extent of power Congress doles to and withholds from a POTUS varies depending on the sanity and sagacity of the POTUS and on the circumstances in which the country finds itself. There is no set rule that's always going to be the one to apply. It's a matter of balancing, based on the circumstances, restraint, flexibility, oversight, trustworthiness and sagacity.

Trump is so unhinged now that WH reporters are just baiting him with easy to read loaded questions that he is just walking right into.

So while Hill Republicans have been trying to worm their way out of Trump taking the responsibility for a shutdown in that WH meeting with Pelosi and Schumer, Trump yesterday claims that he needed the shutdown so that he could show people the real issues down on the border. So whatever work Hill Republicans have been doing to try to regain some ground from the shutdown, Trump just cut the legs out from under AGAIN.

In all honesty, Trump has reached Gaddafi level crazy now, literally Gaddafi level crazy. I always thought the 25th Amendment talk was nonsense. But at some point Republicans are going to have to do something to save the country and to save themselves.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Trump is an idiot. Congress should take back the powers they're supposed to hold.

Too bad the Republican Congress didn't have the courage to do so during the first two years of the con man.

 

[JackA]

Too bad Congress didn't do that years ago when Obama helped devastate Libya and funnel weapons to ISIS.

ISIS is a creature of the Iraq war, which Bush gave birth to and Congress blessed.

 

[calamity]

ISIS is a creature of the Iraq war, which Bush gave birth to and Congress blessed.

Yeah, but Bush isn’t a Black Democrat with a funny name. In essence, that is all which matters to many white men.

 

[Mycroft]

There, I fixed it for you.

LOL!!

Lurch...the WHATABOUT King.

 

[Mycroft]

ISIS is a creature of the Iraq war, which Bush gave birth to and Congress blessed.

Oh...THAT'S your excuse for Obama, with the help of people such as Clinton, McCain and others, further destabilizing the region and arming ISIS? "But...but...BUSH!!!"

LOL!!

 

[RaleBulgarian]

.... and funnel weapons to ISIS.

:bs No

 

[JackA]

Oh...THAT'S your excuse for Obama, with the help of people such as Clinton, McCain and others, further destabilizing the region and arming ISIS? "But...but...BUSH!!!"

LOL!!

No, Obama miscalculated on Libya. But the Iraq war owns the responsibility for ISIS. Nothing LOL about it.

 

[Mycroft]

No, Obama miscalculated on Libya. But the Iraq war owns the responsibility for ISIS. Nothing LOL about it.

Obama "miscalculated"?? Don't make me laugh. He KNEW what was going to happen. His administration wrote about it.

He made a deliberate choice.

 

[tres borrachos]

Congress taking back it's war powers, something it gave up long before anyone would have bet $5 to win a thousand that a guy named Trump would become president.

Congress takes critical step toward reasserting its war-powers control



And, that is a good thing.

This is the right decision. Congress should have the war powers.

 

[lurchadams]

The only problem with that is that congress voted to do it.

They voted to give the president the authority to go to war. It was the neocons and Bush who actually did it. Cheney's company, Halliburton made billions off the deal. But keep saying it was for a good cause. The hundreds of thousands dead and wounded and displaced from their homes might disagree with you.

 

[Fletch]

They voted to give the president the authority to go to war. It was the neocons and Bush who actually did it. Cheney's company, Halliburton made billions off the deal. But keep saying it was for a good cause. The hundreds of thousands dead and wounded and displaced from their homes might disagree with you.

Congress and most prominent democrats supported it. Get your facts straight.

 

[poweRob]

There, I fixed it for you.

Yeah... ya know... they always seem to forget that part.