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Who is we? There is no we here. There is just the group in question. You're extrapolating from this situation to fit a worldview that doesn't exist. In this case, the general does not reside in the particular.
This has nothing to do with political correctness. You're manipulating reality to fit your agenda here.
There is no line to draw.
I'm sure I could find plenty of petitions that go nowhere.
You sure are in this thread.
I don't care.
Then why are you complaining about the group expressing their freedom of speech by freely choosing the right to pull the film showing?
No, they chose to show it. Then they pulled it out of fear.
It would not surprise me to learn that CAIR had a hand in this, considering that it is a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood. And I'm hardly surprised to see this enabling of jihadism on display at a commie campus like that one. Leftists and Muslim jihadists have something in common: They both hate the United States and western civilization in general.
They chose to show it, and then chose to not, to prevent a negative backlash. That's free speech. They weren't forced to not show it. They chose to.
Maybe someone should tell all the "japs" that they should protest the showing of "Unbroken", just so the Muzzies don't get all the attention.
I remember when college campuses were diverse and celebrated free speech, actually I lied, I don't remember; my whole life colleges and universities have been invaded by SP's and it's really unfortunate.
Tim-
I did, you betcha.
Tim-
And you refused to give into the PC ****?
I didn't go to college until I was 26 and already served duty in the Canadian Armed Forces. Translation: I was already done with my youth and liberalism. I had gotten it by that time. I saw a little bit in the school I went too, but that was in Canada, and it wasn't all that political..
Anything else you'd like to know?
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One more. Were there, by any chance, friends you had in college who also didn't give in to the PC BS?
Because they feared some people might not like it, they chose not to do it, freedom of choice to be intimidated!"
I choose my friends carefully, so no not really. As far the babes, well although younger than I, I really didn't care about their politics if you know what I mean.
Tim-
The university feared an attack on campus. Period.
If campuses are going to insist that we need to have an armada of left-wing socially conscious films and documentaries that may be controversial (which is fine by me), then let's not get our panties in a bunch when a mainstream film is being shown. American Sniper was relatively tame, given that its main criticism was that it didn't even highlight (let alone make the decision to celebrate) his more controversial racial/ethnic views.
Furthermore, attacking a film for being nationalistic is tremendously lame. Many of the celebrated left-wing films made in the past half century were nationalistic. They were attacking the colonial social order of the French, the British, the Soviets, and so on. In its place they frequently desired the native-grown population to take control over their own affairs. That's nationalism, folks. Methinks the youth meant to say "colonialist" or "hegemonic."
Oh, you youngsters. I guess you weren't around when Last Temptation of Christ came out. Christians and conservatives all over the US had a collective snit, and didn't just protest against it, they openly tried to get it shut down -- without, of course, actually seeing the movie.Freedom of speech is a one-way street these days. And this country has lost its spine.
None of this is relevant.
It's all relevant. The university system is meant to be an open ground for the safe exchange of ideas. Not only does this push from the group dismantle that concept
but they also have an incredibly flawed basis by which to suggest the university shouldn't air that film.
No it doesn't at all. In fact this is an example of the very thing you're saying didn't happen. Ideas were exchanged in an open manner. As a result, the group freely chose to not show the film. That's a prime example of what you're claiming should be happening.
That's your opinion, and again, irrelevant.
University of Maryland cancels
Freedom of speech is a one-way street these days.
And this country has lost its spine.
No, it's not. A truly open environment would allow the materials to be presented, but also allow for opportunities to discuss and critique.
What? So a "truly open environment" would be forcing this group to show the film?
I don't think you know what "allow" means. The film was "allowed" to be shown. The people doing the film screening chose not to.
The University was going to show the film
until the petition said to not show the film. It was bullying.
The proper intellectual environment would be to say you shouldn't pressure people to not present those materials.
What you can do is allow for a rebuttal or panel discussion of Islamism or the like in film or popular culture. It's not like they don't have a case to critique the film, because we've long had scholars like Edward Said discuss how popular culture relies on certain tropes of Arab and Islamic culture.
As someone above pointed out, any campus outrage at a showing of the Last Temptation of Christ ought to be viewed in the same light. Christians displeased with that film ought not have the power to bully and pressure the university from displaying the film.
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