Are you kidding me? Gun manufacturers would like gun resales to be harder (and much more expensive), as it helps them sell more new guns.
We will see if that is a legitimate argument if it is brought in the debate this month in Congress. My guess is that it won't be.
We will see if that is a legitimate argument if it is brought in the debate this month in Congress. My guess is that it won't be.
“The current system is broken,” he said. “Why in the world would you expand that system if you’re not enforcing the law that exists today to include private transfers? So I think that legislation is going nowhere, but I’d like to have a robust debate about improving the system.”
Let me ask you a simple question. If current law is not being enforced, what makes you think new ones will be? Criminals are not stupid when it comes to acquiring weapons (for the most part) and will continue to acquire them illegally no mater what laws are passed...
Graham is your barometer of the Senate eh? :lamo
:roll: Don't you think that maybe just maybe that if he is bringing this up publicly that he is also going to bring it up in the Senate? He is after all a Senator in our Senate after all.
I know...sucks when your house of cards fall doesn't it?
I have no reason to believe the law you refer to is not being enforced. The point of those in the industry as well of mayors and police across the country is that private sellers fall in between the laws you speak of.
The purpose of the ending the gun show loophole in 40 states is to make it more difficult and expensive for criminals and the mentally deranged to get their guns than simply going to their neighborhood gun show next weekend and buying a gun for cash, no questions asked.
Let me ask you a simple question. If current law is not being enforced, what makes you think new ones will be? Criminals are not stupid when it comes to acquiring weapons (for the most part) and will continue to acquire them illegally no mater what laws are passed...
What makes you think the current laws are not being enforced? Criminals and the mentally ill can STILL buy guns LEGALLY at gun shows, online from personal dealers and in person from personal dealers. THAT'S what the new gun laws want to close.
So, you've decided the outcome before the Senate debate even begins?
After only four or five responses on different threads, it didn't take me long to realize you're too stupid (not ignorant) on which to waste keystrokes as you can't seem to comprehend the simplest of concepts...
Again with the moving of the goal posts. :roll: Do you ever debate honestly?
The discussion was talking about what was going to be brought up in the debate in the Senate were you doubted that the current laws are not being enforced would be brought up. The discussion was not what the out come of the Senate debate was going to be on this subject.
Think I'll start calling you "haymarket clone" or "haymarkets double", or maybe just plain "haymarket".
Why not just answer his question?
I did. Reading comprehension is a must.
This said right after a post that shows a senator agreeing that the laws are not being enforced and even gives examples directly related (in fact the SAME) to background checks. :roll:
1: It won't make it more expensive. There is absolutely no way to enforce a background check on private sellers. Unless you combine it with gun registration...Good luck passing that one AND getting it past SCOTUS as that is an obvious infringement on our right to privacy.
2: Even IF background checks were enforceable it will not stop..or even reduce..criminals from getting ahold of guns. There is an entire black market out there centered exclusively around the illegal sale of guns. Most of those guns being either stolen or brought into the US from outside the country. (and if 1 million illegal aliens slip through our border every year i'm pretty sure that people can get guns through) Of course..criminals can still just go out and steal the gun themselves if they wish to...which alot of them do.
3: As anyone with half a brain will note background checks will not stop mentally ill folks from getting ahold of a gun either. None of the guns that Lanza used were obtained by Lanza legally. He stole them all. That should be ample proof that mentally ill folks will still get ahold of guns. Of course gun grabbers love to ignore that part of what happened in Conn.
Only the far right consider Graham to know more than law enforcement.
It will be enforced at gun shows the same way it is enforced for FFL dealers at gun shows, and that doesn't include registration.
It will make more difficult and expensive for criminals and the mentally deranged to purchase guns than simply going to their neighborhood gun show next weekend.
90% of the country and 85% of gun owners support making it harder and more expensive for those that can't pass a background check to buy guns.
How is it going to be enforced on a private seller if they are not at a gun show?
No, it won't. I've already explained how and why. A stolen gun isn't exactly expensive ya know.
That was from a poll in which no one knows how the questions were framed or the process in how the poll was conducted. Also it is irrelevent to what I said.
Explain Chicago.Most people know that an illegal gun costs more and is more difficult to find than a legal one.
After only four or five responses on different threads, it didn't take me long to realize you're too stupid (not ignorant) on which to waste keystrokes as you can't seem to comprehend the simplest of concepts...
Lame dodge.
Your personal insults above to MuddyCreek show you've lost the argument. Did your insults make you feel better about your loss?
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