United States = Coronavirus Cases:81,173,430 = Deaths 993,771=Thanks Republican Party for following your most incompetent president ever....

[MikePrime]

Scientists working endlessly are responsible. Trump goes around acting like he put a lab coat on and participated. Truth is, Trump downplayed COVID because he thought it would hurt his re-election chances.

authorized by warp speed. Its ok you can be wrong sometimes.

 

[Warcok]

Which one of you animals are responsible for triggering OP's TDS?

 

[MikePrime]

trump had basically no rollout plan for the vaccine - Biden created one from scratch.

Are you arguing that rolling out the vaccine hugely caused covid? Because that's what Biden did. Biden didn't cause more infections - people's behavior and new variants did.

definitely not saying the vaccine causes covid.
Still waiting to se how its republicans fault if there were less deaths under Trump than Biden.

 

[Craig234]

Here's something I just say, from the Washington Post:

But the race to develop a vaccine also became intensely politicized by the president, with trust in a prospective vaccine plummeting apparently as a result. Trump recognized early that the pandemic would only truly come to an end when a vaccine became widely available — and then became fixated on delivering one before the Nov. 3 presidential election to convince voters he had the virus under control.

That calculation led the president and top aides — especially Chief of Staff Mark Meadows — to apply unrelenting pressure on the FDA to clear a vaccine before the election. Even after Trump lost his bid, that campaign continued, culminating in an extraordinary threat on Friday, when Meadows ordered FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn to submit his resignation if the agency did not clear Pfizer’s vaccine by day’s end. The agency pushed its timetable from Saturday morning to late Friday — a change that had no effect on the distribution plans that were set to begin Sunday.

Earlier that same day, Trump had tweeted that the FDA was “a big, old, slow turtle” and badgered Hahn. “Get the dam vaccines out NOW, Dr. Hahn @SteveFDA. Stop playing games and start saving lives!!!”

 

[Craig234]

Still waiting to se how its republicans fault if there were less deaths under Trump than Biden.

Your argument is about as good as saying that President Hoover was a better war president than FDR because more Americans were killed in war under FDR. You can't measure how well a president handled the virus by casualty numbers alone.

 

[Puigb]

You're still avoiding the point of what I said because you can't refute it.

More deaths under Biden than Trump. Biden had the vaccine and still had more deaths. Trump authorized warp speed and Biden said it was silly and unrealistic.

What republicans are spreading conspiracy theories? What republicans are taking about microchips and aids in vaccines? you mean the very small group of incels on 4chan? that's not a representation of the Republican Party. Unless you're saying that an opinion that we shouldn't have lock downs is a conspiracy theory.

lol, mainstream Republican politicians and political pundits have pushed anti vaccine conspiracy theories...to the point where even Trump had to shut some of them down.

And you're comparing a full year of 2021 to 2020, where a president in 2020 downplayed the numbers and virus for political purposes.

 

[Puigb]

authorized by warp speed. Its ok you can be wrong sometimes.

and?

 

[EdwinWillers]

Economic adviser gave worst-case scenario of 500,000 deaths

• Trump claimed no one could have predicted disease’s severity

Last updated: March 13, 2022, 23:20 GMT

United States​

Coronavirus Cases:​

81,173,430

Deaths:​

993,771

Trump was warned in January of Covid-19's devastating impact, memos reveal

Trump claimed no one could have predicted disease’s severity but economic adviser Peter Navarro gave worst-case scenario of 500,000 deaths

www.theguardian.com

Dr. Fauci Warned In 2017 Of ‘Surprise Outbreak’ During Trump ...

Dr. Fauci Warned In 2017 Of ‘Surprise Outbreak’ During Trump Administration

“There is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases,” he said.

www.huffpost.com

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the U.S. government’s top infectious disease specialist, warned in early 2017 that a “surprise outbreak” would occur during the Trump administration, and he said
that more needed to be done to prepare for a pandemic.

Did Dr. Fauci Predict a Serious Pandemic During Trump’s Presidency — in 2017?
Fact Checks, Viral Content / By Kim LaCapria / April 1, 2020

In January 2017, Dr. Anthony Fauci predicted a serious pandemic during U.S. President Donald Trump's tenure in office.

Dr. Fauci Warned In 2017 Of ‘Surprise Outbreak’ During Trump Administration

“There is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases,” he said.

www.huffpost.com

The art of the pandemic: How Trump walked the U.S. into the ...
www.statnews.com/2020/05/17/the-art-of-the...


May 17, 2020 · Trump was in office for three years and didn’t prepare for a once-in-100-years pandemic

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-trump-administration-is-ill-prepared-for-a-global-pandemic/2017/04/08/59605bc6-1a49-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html

In 2017, Obama officials briefed Trump's team on dealing with a pandemic like the coronavirus.

This is just plain stupid and hateful. It's also utterly pointless - and fwiw - flat out wrong.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Here's something I just say, from the Washington Post:

It's amazing that people don't remember this.

 

[Acadia]

Well said, but it goes beyond incompetence....Trump flat-out LIED to the American people about how deadly Covid is.

He told Bob Woodward in a recorded interview in Feb 2020 that Covid is very deadly, yet he lied to the American people and told them it would disappear. Trump should rot in hell for his gross negligence handling Covid.

Biden said that any President with that many people dead from covid, shouldn't be President. Then, went on to win the election and has exceeded the number of covid deaths under Trump, handily.
It goes beyond incompetence.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Economic adviser gave worst-case scenario of 500,000 deaths

• Trump claimed no one could have predicted disease’s severity

Last updated: March 13, 2022, 23:20 GMT

United States​

Coronavirus Cases:​

81,173,430

Deaths:​

993,771

Trump was warned in January of Covid-19's devastating impact, memos reveal

Trump claimed no one could have predicted disease’s severity but economic adviser Peter Navarro gave worst-case scenario of 500,000 deaths

www.theguardian.com

Dr. Fauci Warned In 2017 Of ‘Surprise Outbreak’ During Trump ...

Dr. Fauci Warned In 2017 Of ‘Surprise Outbreak’ During Trump Administration

“There is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases,” he said.

www.huffpost.com

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the U.S. government’s top infectious disease specialist, warned in early 2017 that a “surprise outbreak” would occur during the Trump administration, and he said
that more needed to be done to prepare for a pandemic.

Did Dr. Fauci Predict a Serious Pandemic During Trump’s Presidency — in 2017?
Fact Checks, Viral Content / By Kim LaCapria / April 1, 2020

In January 2017, Dr. Anthony Fauci predicted a serious pandemic during U.S. President Donald Trump's tenure in office.

Dr. Fauci Warned In 2017 Of ‘Surprise Outbreak’ During Trump Administration

“There is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases,” he said.

www.huffpost.com

The art of the pandemic: How Trump walked the U.S. into the ...
www.statnews.com/2020/05/17/the-art-of-the...


May 17, 2020 · Trump was in office for three years and didn’t prepare for a once-in-100-years pandemic

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-trump-administration-is-ill-prepared-for-a-global-pandemic/2017/04/08/59605bc6-1a49-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html

In 2017, Obama officials briefed Trump's team on dealing with a pandemic like the coronavirus.

The memo said 1.2 million dead if unchecked... and we are close to a million.

Trump and Biden basically did nothing.

 

[MikePrime]

Your argument is about as good as saying that President Hoover was a better war president than FDR because more Americans were killed in war under FDR. You can't measure how well a president handled the virus by casualty numbers alone.

so casualties don't matter?
the point is addressing the OP the attributed covid deaths the Republicans when factually there were more under a dem admin.

 

[MikePrime]

lol, mainstream Republican politicians and political pundits have pushed anti vaccine conspiracy theories...to the point where even Trump had to shut some of them down.

And you're comparing a full year of 2021 to 2020, where a president in 2020 downplayed the numbers and virus for political purposes.

more deaths under dem admin than rep admin.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

Biden said that any President with that many people dead from covid, shouldn't be President. Then, went on to win the election and has exceeded the number of covid deaths under Trump, handily.
It goes beyond incompetence.

Biden didn't lie about Covid, like Trump did.

And Biden was cleaning up Trump's disastrous mess. If Trump was still President, millions of Americans would probably still be trying to get vaccinated, since I'm sure his administration would have ****ed up that rollout as well.

So you are simply, unequivocally wrong.

 

[Puigb]

more deaths under dem admin than rep admin.

Thanks to the Reps pushing anti vaccine nonsense. Also, unlike Trump, Biden encourages more testing. Trump just wanted lower numbers for his re-election bid.

 

[MikePrime]

Thanks to the Reps pushing anti vaccine nonsense. Also, unlike Trump, Biden encourages more testing. Trump just wanted lower numbers for his re-election bid.

anti mandate isn't anti vaccine. So if vaccines are the reason then why are there less deaths in a year without vaccines than a year with them???

 

[Puigb]

anti mandate isn't anti vaccine. So if vaccines are the reason then why are there less deaths in a year without vaccines than a year with them???

More strains, and a government willing to give real numbers, not manipulated ones to help a failing president win his re-election bid.

And the GOP has numerous anti vaccine politicians and pundits, that are very popular with the base.

 

[Bullseye]

Economic adviser gave worst-case scenario of 500,000 deaths

• Trump claimed no one could have predicted disease’s severity

Last updated: March 13, 2022, 23:20 GMT

United States​

Coronavirus Cases:​

81,173,430

Deaths:​

993,771

Trump was warned in January of Covid-19's devastating impact, memos reveal

Trump claimed no one could have predicted disease’s severity but economic adviser Peter Navarro gave worst-case scenario of 500,000 deaths

www.theguardian.com

Dr. Fauci Warned In 2017 Of ‘Surprise Outbreak’ During Trump ...

Dr. Fauci Warned In 2017 Of ‘Surprise Outbreak’ During Trump Administration

“There is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases,” he said.

www.huffpost.com

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the U.S. government’s top infectious disease specialist, warned in early 2017 that a “surprise outbreak” would occur during the Trump administration, and he said
that more needed to be done to prepare for a pandemic.

Did Dr. Fauci Predict a Serious Pandemic During Trump’s Presidency — in 2017?
Fact Checks, Viral Content / By Kim LaCapria / April 1, 2020

In January 2017, Dr. Anthony Fauci predicted a serious pandemic during U.S. President Donald Trump's tenure in office.

Dr. Fauci Warned In 2017 Of ‘Surprise Outbreak’ During Trump Administration

“There is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases,” he said.

www.huffpost.com

The art of the pandemic: How Trump walked the U.S. into the ...
www.statnews.com/2020/05/17/the-art-of-the...


May 17, 2020 · Trump was in office for three years and didn’t prepare for a once-in-100-years pandemic

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-trump-administration-is-ill-prepared-for-a-global-pandemic/2017/04/08/59605bc6-1a49-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html

In 2017, Obama officials briefed Trump's team on dealing with a pandemic like the coronavirus.

You mean the incompetent President that got the vaccine you worship in record time? The real "incompetent President" was your hero who saw more Americans die on his watch with three vaccines available.

 

[Bullseye]

More strains, and a government willing to give real numbers, not manipulated ones to help a failing president win his re-election bid.

And the GOP has numerous anti vaccine politicians and pundits, that are very popular with the base.

Those aren't "anti-vaccine" politicians; they're pro-democracy politicians and pundits. Biden's totalitarian mandated caused those deaths.

 

[Puigb]

Those aren't "anti-vaccine" politicians; they're pro-democracy politicians and pundits. Biden's totalitarian mandated caused those deaths.

I know that's what you're told to believe and say, but reality is those politicians are just opportunists spewing bullshit to further their political careers.

 

[Bullseye]

I know that's what you're told to believe and say, but reality is those politicians are just opportunists spewing bullshit to further their political careers.

I can draw my own conclusions. You apparently are the blind disciple of your betters.

 

[Puigb]

I can draw my own conclusions. You apparently are the blind disciple of your betters.

You just parrot and vote as you're told.

 

[Bullseye]

You just parrot and vote as you're told.

LOL, no irony here.

 

[Puigb]

LOL, no irony here.

my default position is if people like you support a certain politician, I automatically know by default they are the bottom of the barrel dregs of society.

 

[Craig234]

so casualties don't matter?

For alone determining which policies are better? No.