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When Ireland is united depends on the wish of the people who must approve reunification in referenda in both jurisdictions.
 

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Are the orange really Irish?
 

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You'd probably have to ask the Donald that but I have it on good authority that he isn't.:mrgreen:

Barry Fitzgerald played both priests and pastors in the movies. So confusing. :)
 

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When Ireland is united depends on the wish of the people who must approve reunification in referenda in both jurisdictions.

With the rate of demographic change in Northern Ireland, those referenda will be sooner rather than later.
 

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Ireland is on my wish list of places to visit.
 

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Here is an "old" thread:

United Ireland

Can we get on takling about this topic?

I have been to Ireland several times.
And so I am interested in this topic.

I have been to Ireland for a college trip.
I am for a united Ireland. I dont think NI is british
 

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With the rate of demographic change in Northern Ireland, those referenda will be sooner rather than later.

For sure, the people of Ireland will vote for reunification and you appear to be right about the demographics in North Ireland where the vote to remain in the European Union was a majority in that referendum.
 

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Ireland is on my wish list of places to visit.

Having done military tour there in the 80's... I never want to see the North again in my lifetime. Not for nothing did the BNP and Combat 18 (plus similar groups) have close links with the Unionist side there. One of the few places Nick Griffin (displaced leader of the BNP) used to get standing ovations when he came to talk.

~ the vote to remain in the European Union was a majority in that referendum.

Noticed that a lot of Unionists voted Remain too. Business and financial security over political stance for once.
 

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I think the general conversation about a United Ireland and what it might look like is very worthwhile. I find some people's bitterness about what the other side did hundreds of years ago to be unhelpful and paranoid. This includes the orange parade's absurd celebration of a murky battle in 1690 or the hawkish sentiment that a fight for a United Ireland is just a "continuation of what had been festering for 800 years". I also think that unionists should really embrace democracy. Otherwise unionists cannot be considered to be Protestant and Christian.
 

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The troubles must never return. That was a dark time for Ireland. Political solution or no solution.
 

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It might be a bit counterproductive for some people to perhaps talk about a United Ireland in quite a socialist context. I'm not trying to equate socialism with communism! But obviously in the past a few of the communist countries were themselves very hostile towards any secessionist groups.
 

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As an Irishman, I’ve yearned all my life to see a united Ireland. It’s a obviously an extremely complex matter that can’t be explained a single post but there are a few issues we could touch on.

1. First and foremost, under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, a majority of voters in both the North and the Republic would have to vote for it. In the North, that majority is not there yet. In the South, it probably is but not as overwhelming as the outsider might think.

2. The Unionists in the North have, unfortunately for them, become an aberration. Britain no longer wants them, the days of Thatcher and Paisley are long gone. The so-called Conservative and Unionist party has proved that it is willing to break up the union to realize their Brexit ambitions. Obviously I would love if they would get on board with being Irish rather than British but asking someone to change their very perception of themselves and their sense of nationhood is a very tough ask.

3. Brexit could well be the catalyst for a united Ireland. The EU will not agree to a trade deal with the UK that closes the border in Ireland. The border will have to be in the Irish Sea. This will put the North in a separate legal and customs situation to the rest of the UK. It could be this will lead if not to a united Ireland, then maybe a kind of federal United States of Ireland.

Ultimately, I wish for peace and prosperity for all who live on our island. As a Republican, I think the best way to achieve that is by uniting, but I understand why Unionists and Loyalists might not agree.
 

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I reunited Ireland became inevitable with Brexit.
 
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