UNION NO!!! in Garner, North Carolina

[Safiel]

UNION NO!!! in Garner, North Carolina.

At the Garner Amazon facility, 829 yes, 2,447 no.

Union butt slams don’t get worse than that.

Garner is just on the south side of Raleigh City limits. My niece lives just a few miles to the east in the Clayton area and probably gets her packages via that facility.

I figured that the union would lose. I did not expect the epic butt kicking that the union got, considering that this occurred in what is generally a politically blue area in Wake County.

But it holds with the general trend of unions losing ground, now down to just a pathetic 5.9% of the private workforce and continue to fall as a share of the workforce.

The few wins unions are getting are at small Starbucks sized workplaces, which won't get them very far.

 

[ataraxia]

UNION NO!!! in Garner, North Carolina.

At the Garner Amazon facility, 829 yes, 2,447 no.

Union butt slams don’t get worse than that.

Garner is just on the south side of Raleigh City limits. My niece lives just a few miles to the east in the Clayton area and probably gets her packages via that facility.

I figured that the union would lose. I did not expect the epic butt kicking that the union got, considering that this occurred in what is generally a politically blue area in Wake County.

But it holds with the general trend of unions losing ground, now down to just a pathetic 5.9% of the private workforce and continue to fall as a share of the workforce.

The few wins unions are getting are at small Starbucks sized workplaces, which won't get them very far.

Yes- I love it when vulnerable people and those in positions of weakness get their a$$es kicked! Yay!
/s

 

[Safiel]

Yes- I love it when vulnerable people and those in positions of weakness get their a$$es kicked! Yay!
/s

If you look at it that way, than you have to consider that they kicked their own asses, nobody else did so.

 

[multivita-man]

UNION NO!!! in Garner, North Carolina.

At the Garner Amazon facility, 829 yes, 2,447 no.

Union butt slams don’t get worse than that.

Garner is just on the south side of Raleigh City limits. My niece lives just a few miles to the east in the Clayton area and probably gets her packages via that facility.

I figured that the union would lose. I did not expect the epic butt kicking that the union got, considering that this occurred in what is generally a politically blue area in Wake County.

But it holds with the general trend of unions losing ground, now down to just a pathetic 5.9% of the private workforce and continue to fall as a share of the workforce.

The few wins unions are getting are at small Starbucks sized workplaces, which won't get them very far.

Oh, hey! Mr. Bezos! We let you piss on our faces just like you ordered, sir.

 

[Peter]

It's comical just how demonised unions have become and how normalised union busting by companies is now.

Unions are a good thing for workers.

 

[lynnwinslow]

UNION NO!!! in Garner, North Carolina.

At the Garner Amazon facility, 829 yes, 2,447 no.

Union butt slams don’t get worse than that.

Garner is just on the south side of Raleigh City limits. My niece lives just a few miles to the east in the Clayton area and probably gets her packages via that facility.

I figured that the union would lose. I did not expect the epic butt kicking that the union got, considering that this occurred in what is generally a politically blue area in Wake County.

But it holds with the general trend of unions losing ground, now down to just a pathetic 5.9% of the private workforce and continue to fall as a share of the workforce.

The few wins unions are getting are at small Starbucks sized workplaces, which won't get them very far.

Have you been to Garner? I'm not the least bit surprised that the people from there would cut off their noses to spite their faces.

 

[ataraxia]

If you look at it that way, than you have to consider that they kicked their own asses, nobody else did so.

How did they do that?

 

[NJBob]

It's comical just how demonised unions have become and how normalised union busting by companies is now.

Unions are a good thing for workers.

It’s sad that workers are scared to the point that they act against their own best interests.

How anyone can celebrate this as a good thing?

 

[ataraxia]

Have you been to Garner? I'm not the least bit surprised that the people from there would cut off their noses to spite their faces.

Many of those union workers vote for Trump and Musk. They like the racism so much this other stuff doesn’t even matter that much. Small price to pay.

 

[Safiel]

How did they do that?

Only the workers of the facility get to vote.

Not the general public.

Not management.

Just the workers.

So ultimately, any success or blame lies 100% on the workers.

NLRB voting booths are private and secure and neither the union nor the company can compel any workers vote other than what they freely wish to vote.

 

[Safiel]

It’s sad that workers are scared to the point that they act against their own best interests.

How anyone can celebrate this as a good thing?

Some of us are corporate types.

I am a corporate executive in agribusiness.

We have had mostly success in labor, maintaining favorable contracts in places where we have unions and avoiding new certifications and even managing a few decertifications over the years.

For me, just part of MY job.

From my perspective, the main problem with unions is not the higher wages or benefits they may bring. No, the big negative from my perspective is the costly and inefficient work rules that necessarily result from a unionized workforce.

I favor a proactive approach, to head off unions before the idea ever gets in the heads of workers. We provide competitive wage and benefit packages to our non-union employees in a sufficient amount keep them happy and us union free.

 

[ataraxia]

Only the workers of the facility get to vote.

Not the general public.

Not management.

Just the workers.

So ultimately, any success or blame lies 100% on the workers.

NLRB voting booths are private and secure and neither the union nor the company can compel any workers vote other than what they freely wish to vote.

You seem to be celebrating " general trend of unions losing ground, now down to just a pathetic 5.9% of the private workforce and continue to fall as a share of the workforce".

Why?

 

[Safiel]

You seem to be celebrating " general trend of unions losing ground, now down to just a pathetic 5.9% of the private workforce and continue to fall as a share of the workforce".

Why?

As I said in the other post, I am a corporate type. Unions are NOT in MY interest.

Can't realistically expect me to cheerlead for an institution that is, from my perspective, the enemy.

 

[ataraxia]

Some of us are corporate types.

I am a corporate executive in agribusiness.

We have had mostly success in labor, maintaining favorable contracts in places where we have unions and avoiding new certifications and even managing a few decertifications over the years.

For me, just part of MY job.

From my perspective, the main problem with unions is not the higher wages or benefits they may bring. No, the big negative from my perspective is the costly and inefficient work rules that necessarily result from a unionized workforce.

I favor a proactive approach, to head off unions before the idea ever gets in the heads of workers. We provide competitive wage and benefit packages to our non-union employees in a sufficient amount keep them happy and us union free.

The history of unions in the United States has been helpful to workers in many ways, including better pay, safer working conditions, and shorter workweeks.

Pay and working conditions

• Unions have fought for higher wages, better benefits, and reasonable hours
  
  
• Unions have negotiated better pay and working conditions for workers
  
  
• Unions have promoted wage-setting practices that are less susceptible to implicit bias
  

Safer working conditions

• Unions have fought for safer working conditions in factories, mines, and railroads
  
  
• Unions have helped to pass laws that regulate child labor
  

Shorter workweeks

• Unions have fought for shorter workweeks so that Americans could have more leisure time
• The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1937 created a federal framework for a shorter workweek

Other benefits

• Unions have helped to pass laws that provide health benefits and aid to workers who were injured or retired
  
  
• Unions have helped to pass civil rights legislation
  
  
• Unions have promoted within-firm equality by adopting anti-discrimination measures
  

High unionization levels are associated with positive outcomes across multiple indicators of economic, personal, and democratic well-being.

 

[ataraxia]

As I said in the other post, I am a corporate type. Unions are NOT in MY interest.

Can't realistically expect me to cheerlead for an institution that is, from my perspective, the enemy.

What about speaking as an American? A human being?

 

[tharock220]

I saw a UAW member attempting to make fun of a Toyota employee working in San Antonio on a news broadcast once. The UAW chump was summarily dismissed when the Texan made fun of him for being unemployed. What good is better pay and benefits if you're not working?

 

[multivita-man]

It's comical just how demonised unions have become and how normalised union busting by companies is now.

Unions are a good thing for workers.

And it's often the people who would benefit from unions who are the foot soldiers in union busting efforts.

Shit, who needs to hire Pinkertons to murder striking factory workers when you can have MAGAs do it for free?

 

[Hamish Howl]

As I said in the other post, I am a corporate type. Unions are NOT in MY interest.

Can't realistically expect me to cheerlead for an institution that is, from my perspective, the enemy.

That's a pretty dull-witted outlook.

One of the great things about being management in a union shop is that if someone is being a problem, you throw it back on the union steward. He knows he'll have to deal with it or it will be thrown back in his face at contract time.

I don't expect you to understand the benefit of that.

 

[Peter]

As I said in the other post, I am a corporate type. Unions are NOT in MY interest.

Can't realistically expect me to cheerlead for an institution that is, from my perspective, the enemy.

What exactly is so terrible about allowing people to band together for the collective good of all?
They can have more bargaining power as a union than as single employees and not everyone is a master negotiator.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Not looking into it but assume the issue was fear.

Companies are known to shut down places that vote Union.

 

[multivita-man]

I rarely do this and if this is regarded as a violation of the rules, I apologize in advance and will take down the post (hopefully without points). But I wanted to pimp this documentary if you've not seen it already. It's from the PBS series American Experience, and it's titled "The Mine Wars".

I'm embarrassed to admit this, but until about 10 years ago, I had no idea this even happened, and it's honestly one of the most shocking events in American history. It's still the most violent period and worst episode of unrest since the end of the American Civil War (maybe Reconstruction, depending on how you factor it).

Here's the video (you have to buy it, but worth it, IMO)



Here's the history:

West Virginia coal wars - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Peter]

Not looking into it but assume the issue was fear.

Companies are known to shut down places that vote Union.

They do like making up stories about the evils of being in a union.

 

[NJBob]

As I said in the other post, I am a corporate type. Unions are NOT in MY interest.

Can't realistically expect me to cheerlead for an institution that is, from my perspective, the enemy.

Workers organizing to maximize their wages, ensure their job security and even protect their safety are your enemy?

Who are your friends?

 

[ColdHardTruth]

UNION NO!!! in Garner, North Carolina.

At the Garner Amazon facility, 829 yes, 2,447 no.

Union butt slams don’t get worse than that.

Garner is just on the south side of Raleigh City limits. My niece lives just a few miles to the east in the Clayton area and probably gets her packages via that facility.

I figured that the union would lose. I did not expect the epic butt kicking that the union got, considering that this occurred in what is generally a politically blue area in Wake County.

But it holds with the general trend of unions losing ground, now down to just a pathetic 5.9% of the private workforce and continue to fall as a share of the workforce.

The few wins unions are getting are at small Starbucks sized workplaces, which won't get them very far.

Typical right-wing idiocy.

 

[Individual]

What about speaking as an American? A human being?

Speaking honestly and truthfully are un-American and inhuman?