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Unemployement Drops: Legitimate or Not?

You don't think the Obama results are an economic disaster? That speaks volumes then. What is the Obama plan to reverse the results of the last four years? You really have no idea how the private sector works, do you?

So going from losing 100's of 1000's jobs a month and a -7% GDP to not losing 100's of 100's jobs a month and a GDP on the plus side is a diaster?
 
Since I am helping support my unemployed brother and his kid, I do not think I am ill-informed at all....
Your brother may not have been "willing to work those jobs in lieu of the welfare by another name", but Americans as a whole have been. Your brother is just on data point.

Even if he has been unwilling "to work those jobs in lieu of the welfare by another name" that certainly doesn't mean that other Americans have been as reluctant as he has.
 
Getting better, 2.4% GDP to 1.8% GDP to 1.3% GDP?

22.7 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers?

47 million on food stamps?

46 million below the poverty level?

5.4 trillion added to the debt making it now over 16 trillion dollars exceeding our yearly GDP?

Yes, that is an outstanding record paid for by the 53% that actually pay federal income taxes. Apparently you aren't in that group so why do you even care if taxes go up?

Psst the Bush tax cuts created the 47%. Ain't ya really glad you voted for him now?
 
What a pair you two make. All name calling and crying... no links to anything, no proving anything. Just crying.

You want a link?
Reality.
4 years of misery.
5 trillion pissed away.
Dung for a foreign policy... that has made us less secure.

That isn't enough for you?

Remember... Nov 7 you be sure to walk in to the booth and proudly vote for Obama and his comedic sidekick Biden.
 
I don't have to read your and your Kool-Aid Klan's circle jerk posts for Obama.

Have you been living in a cave the last four years?
If not... your mind has, and the sad thing is you fail to realize it.

Then don't read. You don't want to accidentally educate yourself I suppose. It tends to break those expensive partisan blinders.
 
I don't have to read your and your Kool-Aid Klan's circle jerk posts for Obama.

Have you been living in a cave the last four years?
If not... your mind has, and the sad thing is you fail to realize it.


Just put those numbers by a Republican's name and the left would be going nutso... and rightly so!
But they are Socialists first, Americans last.


Barak Hussein Erkle Soetero Obama = Marxist Alinsky Trojan Horse..
 
Oh the irony....

Did Obvious Child say "we have standards here"?
Obvious Child?
There might be standards, but nothing so low as the lying, deceiving, putting words in other mouths standard that is Obvious Child's.
 
its funny when Obama tried that juvenile line that if Romney had such a good plan why is he hiding it? at the debate... but Obama is so ****ing stupid that everyone was thinking " Yo Obama if you had any good ideas why is the econmy in shambles and every thing is a disaster, why are you hiding the plan that can work. "????? Obama should have asked himself that quesion... what a dope..

but we are to believe NOW he has the answers... Obama is trying to destroy the economy... thats his goal.. its about CONTROL...

I actually don't think Obama is trying to destroy the economy he is just so incompetent that he is doing exactly that.
 
Did Obvious Child say "we have standards here"?
Obvious Child?
There might be standards, but nothing so low as the lying, deceiving, putting words in other mouths standard that is Obvious Child's.

Can you create your own meltdown thread so you don't bother the rest of us? Also, can you do it in a way that gets you suspended just like you did the first two times?

Kthxbye.
 
Getting better, 2.4% GDP to 1.8% GDP to 1.3% GDP?

22.7 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers?

47 million on food stamps?

46 million below the poverty level?

5.4 trillion added to the debt making it now over 16 trillion dollars exceeding our yearly GDP?

Yes, that is an outstanding record paid for by the 53% that actually pay federal income taxes. Apparently you aren't in that group so why do you even care if taxes go up?


You ignore, cut & paste... ignore, cut & paste. Look at you praying that the numbers had negatives in front of them ala the Bush years. Bush isn't in the election this year much to your chagrin I'm sure.
 
Then don't read. You don't want to accidentally educate yourself I suppose. It tends to break those expensive partisan blinders.

I've been reading for the past four years.
I've been watching here and internationally.

I guess you just did come out of 4-years of hibernation and landed face first in Democratic Underground.

Poor you.
 
Then don't read. You don't want to accidentally educate yourself I suppose. It tends to break those expensive partisan blinders.

I can only imagine where you score such knowledge? Olberman, Krugman? Pelosi? Barney Frank? Harry Reid?...
 
You want a link?
Reality.
4 years of misery.
5 trillion pissed away.
Dung for a foreign policy... that has made us less secure.

That isn't enough for you?

Remember... Nov 7 you be sure to walk in to the booth and proudly vote for Obama and his comedic sidekick Biden.

All talk, no proof. On top of admittedly being proud of ignoring proof. This is getting old.
 
Oh the irony....

On the contrary, what you and your friends do not like is having your opponent take your own logic and use it against you. Clearly, you and them were never schooled in rhetoric. This is a standard first year debate tactic. Take your opponent's logic to the conclusion to show it is entirely absurd.

And you knew full well I was discussing the auto industry. Blatantly lying about what I said doesn't help your already very low credibility.
 
I've been reading for the past four years.
I've been watching here and internationally.

I guess you just did come out of 4-years of hibernation and landed face first in Democratic Underground.

Poor you.

Made up your mind so much that reading is no longer necessary. All done educating yourself. **** reading... just let the hate spew forth. LOL
 
Oh come on man, What you do is up to you. All I know is that for the unemployment picture to have done what the BLS say that magically it did, we'd see it out here in real terms. Think about it, do you see 'help wanted' signs everywhere? Do you see marked increases in people you know looking optimistically at the future? Do you think that this magically timed announcement is the real deal, or a slight of hand spoon fed you, and timed to capture the headlines from a dismal failure of Obama in the first debate...?
I don't buy it, nope, not this guy.....
I think you're being overly optimistic as to what 7.8% unemployment looks like.
Unemployment is still @ almost 8%. The numbers suck. 7.8% unemployment is bad, mmkay? 7.8% unemployment doesn't mean that there're more jobs than job seekers. It means things are still pretty damn bleak.

AFAICT, a drop of a couple few tenths of a percentage point is relatively insignificant. I have real doubts that 7.8% unemployment should look noticeably different from 8.1% unemployment.

The numbers don't indicate that we've "turned the corner" and have gone back to when jobs were plentiful. The numbers actually suck. I don't get why the GOP bunched their collective panties over it.

Whenever you decide that we have actually reached 7.8% unemployment, take a look around and tell me if it looks so different from 8.1%.
 
I've been reading for the past four years.
I've been watching here and internationally.

I guess you just did come out of 4-years of hibernation and landed face first in Democratic Underground.

Poor you.

Just mentioning the Mid Terms send Libs into spasms...... they like to pretend that the Mid Terms ddint happen, and that Obama is an athlete..Obama has game like Kobe
 
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I can only imagine where you score such knowledge? Olberman, Krugman? Pelosi? Barney Frank? Harry Reid?...

I tend to link to my knowledge... and you? No links, no proof... just name calling and crying.
 
Can you create your own meltdown thread so you don't bother the rest of us? Also, can you do it in a way that gets you suspended just like you did the first two times?

Kthxbye.
You haven't changed... still the same dung-like accusations as when I left 11-months ago.
Still hold the crown of The King Prevaricator and All Time Champion of Putting Words into Other Folks Mouths Who Never Stated Them?
 
You haven't changed... still the same dung-like accusations as when I left 11-months ago.
Still hold the crown of The King Prevaricator and All Time Champion of Putting Words into Other Folks Mouths Who Never Stated Them?

So... whatcha been doing over the last 11 months? Readin...... I mean..er.. stuff?
 
Made up your mind so much that reading is no longer necessary. All done educating yourself. **** reading... just let the hate spew forth. LOL

We have had four years of failure.
Europe's socialism is imploding... that which Obama wants to grace us with.

I don't want Eurosocialism; I want it eradicated if it could be.

Remember... Nov 7th... you go vote for Obama.
 
You haven't changed... still the same dung-like accusations as when I left 11-months ago.
Still hold the crown of The King Prevaricator and All Time Champion of Putting Words into Other Folks Mouths Who Never Stated Them?

It's not my fault you don't have any debate skills. The concept of utilizing your opponent's logic against them is a standard first year tactic. There's nothing special about it. It is merely that you were never taught it. That is in no way my fault. Stop blaming me for your shortcomings. Furthermore, needling people who have a tendency to get angry, such as you generally causes them to slip up. It again is not my fault that you get angry. I just happen to see an opportunity. This is essentially judo. I take your traits, anger and hatred and use them against you. It's not my fault you have those traits and as a good debater, I'd be foolish not to use them.

FYI, you did melt down twice and got suspended twice over it. Please create your own meltdown thread. Preferably in the basement.
 
We have had four years of failure.
Europe's socialism is imploding... that which Obama wants to grace us with.

I don't want Eurosocialism; I want it eradicated if it could be.

Remember... Nov 7th... you go vote for Obama.


What topic where you wanting to hit here? Or is this just more generic "Angry. Hulk smash... socialism.. Obama...arrrrgghhhh.."?
 
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