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This is what I see:
http://www.bea.gov/iTable/download....3477A02E303D5B52DC780C0BFEF8E8E73D07D9F7FE1E5
Code:Table 3.2. Federal Government Current Receipts and Expenditures [Billions of dollars] Seasonally adjusted at annual rates Bureau of Economic Analysis Last Revised on: September 27, 2012 - Next Release Date October 26, 2012
ETACode:Line * 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 I II III IV I II III IV I II III IV I II III IV I II III IV I II III IV I II III IV I II III IV I II III IV I II III IV I II III IV I II 1 Current receipts 2101.9 2087 1894.9 1997.3 1860 1858.3 1855.9 1863.1 1886.3 1902.8 1827.4 1923.9 1944.4 1989 2044.2 2078.3 2230.7 2257.3 2305.4 2366.9 2473.8 2501.8 2547.4 2575.1 2642.8 2658.5 2651.5 2666.1 2640.1 2409.8 2501.4 2457.7 2218.7 2207.4 2206.5 2273.4 2326.6 2365.8 2427.2 2461.9 2509.8 2522.9 2511.3 2534.3 2664.9 2669.1 2 Current tax receipts 1326.3 1314.7 1126.2 1230.6 1078.4 1073.3 1067 1075.2 1084.7 1091.3 1009 1096 1098.4 1135 1178.5 1203.4 1336.9 1357 1392.9 1448 1517.6 1541.6 1581.3 1592.8 1637.2 1648.6 1632.6 1632 1586.2 1358.4 1450.2 1396.1 1162.3 1130.7 1154 1207.2 1252.3 1282 1333.9 1371.3 1494 1504.1 1494.2 1518.5 1629.2 1637
hmm it looks so much better in preview
trying again
Compare and contrast:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-...nt-drops-legitimate-not-7.html#post1060992611
2001 2163.7
2002 2002.1
2003 2047.9
2004 2213.2
2005 2546.8
2006 2807.4
2007 2951.2
2008 2790.3
Good call.It would be a lot easier if you changed the numbers to annual instead of quarterly
** 2001
Current receipts 2020.3
Current tax receipts 1249.4
2002
Current receipts 1859.3
Current tax receipts 1073.5
2003
Current receipts 1885.1
Current tax receipts 1070.2
2004
Current receipts 2013.9
Current tax receipts 1153.8
2005
Current receipts 2290.1
Current tax receipts 1383.7
2006
Current receipts 2524.5
Current tax receipts 1558.3
2007
Current receipts 2654.7
Current tax receipts 1637.6
2008
Current receipts 2502.2
Current tax receipts 1447.7
2009
Current receipts 2226.5
Current tax receipts 1163.6
2010
Current receipts 2395.4
Current tax receipts 1309.8
2011
Current receipts 2519.6
Current tax receipts 1502.7
Pardon me for not believing much that you post because what you believe hasn't come true. Not sure how anyone can look at the results and claim progress has been made other than those who don't believe in a free enterprise capitalistic economy. It really is hard dealing with people like you who ignore actual data and still buy the liberal talking points. The economy isn't generating the jobs or economic growth to keep up with population growth but you still want to hang on to an ideology that is a failure.
Good call.
Thank you.
http://www.bea.gov/iTable/download....57850BCEA32A14E37D420D18DE74DC86D965243895AC8
Code:** 2001 Current receipts 2020.3 Current tax receipts 1249.4 2002 Current receipts 1859.3 Current tax receipts 1073.5 2003 Current receipts 1885.1 Current tax receipts 1070.2 2004 Current receipts 2013.9 Current tax receipts 1153.8 2005 Current receipts 2290.1 Current tax receipts 1383.7 2006 Current receipts 2524.5 Current tax receipts 1558.3 2007 Current receipts 2654.7 Current tax receipts 1637.6 2008 Current receipts 2502.2 Current tax receipts 1447.7 2009 Current receipts 2226.5 Current tax receipts 1163.6 2010 Current receipts 2395.4 Current tax receipts 1309.8 2011 Current receipts 2519.6 Current tax receipts 1502.7
Compare and contrast:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-...nt-drops-legitimate-not-7.html#post1060992611
2001 2163.7
2002 2002.1
2003 2047.9
2004 2213.2
2005 2546.8
2006 2807.4
2007 2951.2
2008 2790.3
fwiw these numbers from the BEA seem to agree with the biased WH etc
It means the unemployment rate dropped 3 tenths of a percent. Hardly a big jump. I get a kick out of republicans spinning this as fixing the numbers!
With all do respect to you our differences are great. You are a C and I am a L. So, we will see what happens on Nov 6. It has been good debating with you. May the best man win!!
These don't match your original numbers either.No question about it, one of us is wrong, because here is the data from the site but regardless what both charts show govt. revenue grew after the Bush tax cuts were fully implemented in July 2003 and that flies in the face of liberal rhetoric.
Table 3.1. Government Current Receipts and Expenditures
[Billions of dollars]
Last Revised on: September 27, 2012 - Next Release Date October 26, 2012
Line 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008
1 Current receipts 3,132.40 3,118.20 2,967.90 3,043.40 3,265.70 3,659.30 3,995.20 4,197.00 4,051.60
2 Current tax receipts 2,202.80 2,163.70 2,002.10 2,047.90 2,213.20 2,546.80 2,807.40 2,951.20 2,774.10
These don't match your original numbers either.
What did you have to put in to get these?
From what I can tell it's natural for growth to be occurring.
I suspect some growth may be a function of population. idk.
Guess what? I don't really cares what happens in Canada.....
I'm from Chicago....
You get credit for the idiot thing - however, research Chicago.
Well it only shows how basic college is - that is why I burned my degree..... Means nothing to me - does nothing for me. What good is a degree that anyone can get? - even a person with the IQ of 80? - but I suppose everyone these days gets a "Red Ribbon" (in your country)...... Every kid gets a blue ribbon here..
You the oppressor, you enjoy it dude?
Confirms that tax revenue went up after the Bush tax cuts were fully implemented, doesn't it?
Confirms that tax revenue went up after the Bush tax cuts were fully implemented, doesn't it?
Oh.Population growth doesn't create tax revenue, jobs do and jobs were growing from 2003 to 2008
source: http://www.bea.gov/iTable/download....8339970AC04A6FEE32E832CA008CBE09A1D319513BDD1
Confirms that tax revenue has an upward trend that seems as if it could be independent of who is president, doesn't it.
Some of tax revenue could be a function of the size of the populace. Just guessing on that.
What do you think?
Could the population of the country play a part in how much tax revenue there is?
Is it even remotely possible that the tax revenue would have trended even if the tax cuts had not been made?
Oh.
I thought if more people were paying taxes it would work out to more taxes being paid.
So, what is it that happens to total tax revenues when more people pay taxes?
do you know the split between personal and corporate taxes for this top line number?
Well, I am asking about historical data here. Idk what all of the hundreds of millions of Americans did with their money.Depends, what do you do when you get more take home pay in your paycheck because of tax cuts?
Yeah. I am pretty much focused on the revenue data we have been discussing.Human behavior seems to be ignored.
It seems that revenue generally trends upward whether there are tax cuts or tax increases. Not sure that the tax revenue data make that strong of a case for causation. That's just my observation of the data as a lay person. I have no specialized training or experience with this sort of data.What most liberals ignore is that Reagan cut taxes, Clinton signed the Tax relief act of 1997, Bush cut taxes and tax revenue went up.
I'll imagine up some explanation to pull out of the thin air in my ass after you explain about why I would know the answer to that question.Not sure why anyone has a problem keeping more of what they earn, please explain it to me?
So as the population of the country increase tax revenue decreases?Population growth means more deductions and less taxes, more jobs is what creates more taxpayers thus more govt. revenue
Does it matter? I don't have the actual breakdown but know that income tax and corporate taxes both went up AFTER the Bush tax cuts, AFTER the Reagan tax cuts which is what is going to happen in a consumer driven economy.
Simon W. Moon;1060993480]Well, I am asking about historical data here. Idk what all of the hundreds of millions of Americans did with their money.
I see that the tax revenue goes up as the population goes up. Naively, I assumed that having more people paying taxes would increase the amount of taxes collected. You have assured me that more people paying taxes does not increase tax revenue. I find that puzzling and hope for an explanation.
Yeah. I am pretty much focused on the revenue data we have been discussing.
Not all that interested in armchair psychology at the moment.
It seems that revenue generally trends upward whether there are tax cuts or tax increases. Not sure that the tax revenue data make that strong of a case for causation. That's just my observation of the data as a lay person. I have no specialized training or experience with this sort of data.
Is there some reason to think that tax revenue would not have continued on its historical upward trend if the tax cuts had not been passed?
I'll imagine up some explanation to pull out of the thin air in my ass after you explain about why I would know the answer to that question.
How did you come by the second set of numbers you present as the tax revenue?
Its just a point of interest to see if there is a correlation between lowered personal tax income and higher corporate tax income, is all.
Sorry, but YOU are wrong
There Is No Jobs Report Conspiracy. The Jobs Recovery Is Still Meh. - Matthew O'Brien - The Atlantic
In other words, the numbers we were seeing before weren't tracking together as they often don't in the short term. But this latest figure brings them back into agreement, as we should expect.
U.S. Unadjusted Unemployment Rate at 7.9% in September
October 4, 2012
[h=1]U.S. Unadjusted Unemployment Rate at 7.9% in September[/h][h=2]U.S. Unadjusted Unemployment Rate at 7.9% in September[/h]
I don't think Gallup got your memo
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