Proven to be Photoshopped? By whom?
You cant do research? Flight 93 Hijack Transcript | The Smoking Gun
And a thorough investigation of the debris? Are you serious? Can't tell if this is a lie or imply ignorance. http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/exhibits/longterm/documents/recovery.pdf
You keep saying this. Have you come up with an intelligent counter theory?
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
Did they CALL FOR the attack.
It is a simple YES or NO question.
Did they CALL FOR the attack.
And was not the CONTEXT the transformation of the military from a Cold War stance to a non-Cold War stance?
YES or NO question.
Quit with the rambling. Quit the GISHing.
And, have you an INTELLIGENT COUNTER THEORY?
Wist,
You can share your INTELLIGENT COUNTER THEORY on the other thread.
You have one, right? With up to date information?
If you watched the video I provided, it lays the information out. Go to 18:30 of DVD #2. Frame 23 of the 2 videos show that they have been tampered with.
As for the other videos - if they show nothing, then why not show them??
They didn't release anything - they only released a snippet in transcript form, which proves nothing. If the recordings are genuine - play them, and it would be game, set, and match for the official scenario, wouldn't it?? But of course they won't release the recordings, and they won't produce the recorders so that the serial numbers can be verified - how do you explain that?? Go to 41:40 of DVD #2.
We're just supposed to take the governments word for everything?? Seems to me I remember that in criminal cases the burden of proof is upon the prosecution, and absent proof, it doesn't have a case. The government cannot simply walk into a courtroom and say "... that guy did it, and our proof is that we say he did it".
More GISHing....
As Chevy Chase said, "... this isn't Russia. This isn't Russia is it??"
More GISHing...
As for a thorough investigation of the debris... they looked for human remains and body parts, they didn't analyze the debris for any foreign substances. That's the point. And the fact that the much of the debris wasn't much more than pulverized everything - that inandof itself is another red flag. Go to 53:50 of DVD #3.
Quit with the stupid movie.
A "red flag" for WHAT? Towers collapsed and the grinding of steel and concrete did more to the bodies than EXPLOSIVES.
And when it comes to the bodies - if it were a simple gravitational collapse, how is that most of the bodies were literally vaporized. Does crushing now result in complete vaporization?? How do you explain that??
Most? Really? You are going with "most"?
If you watch from 53:50 of DVD #3 onward, can you explain the bone fragments on the Duetsch Bank roof??
Again - your case is more holes than cloth.
Yes, it is a false flag - and I've laid out some of the false flag evidence, but of course you have your own agenda and are not paying attention.
I've asked all of you guys if you understand how false flag operations work - and of course you never answer.
Yes, I've been asking them, but you go off in other directions... In this post, I've asked you 5 questions, the DVD concludes each segment with questions for you debunkers - should I go thru the DVD's and simply type out the questions for you??
They are just sampling of the questions that you believers in the official theory have to answer in order to have any credibility.
Man, lol... LIHOP, MIHOP...
That is the point of a false flag... it is why I've been asking you guys if you understand how they work?? I assume you don't - which being the case would prevent you from looking anywhere other than where the powers behind the false flag tell you to look.
If you did have any understanding of false flags, you would understand why trying to drive home the point that the PNAC reference not overtly calling for an event is irrelevant. Jeepers, lol...
- The access to dozens of retrofitted 767's
Which 767's were these?
That is thru Dov Zakeim and the Boeing/Pentagon tanker lease agreement. 32 767's were sent to McGill AFB in FL. SPC was installing the FTS technology on planes at Egland AFB in FL at the same time.
Go to 34:20 of this video and watch it thru...
Fled... good grief man - your point is moot.
Since my argument is that of a false flag - you question is moot. Don't you get that??
There WERE NO 767 tankers until YEARS after 9/11
"In early 2002 the USAF started negotiations with Boeing on the lease of a tankers based on the Boeing 767 after it considered the Airbus A330-based tanker, the KC-330 to be more costly and a higher technical risk."
Boeing KC-767 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Why would I watch the video if it is full of nonsense like this?
QUIT SHILLING THE VIDEO.
No one care.
Especially since YOUR references to it shows it to be full of *special* claims.
Was 9/11 not a "catalyzing event like Pearl Harbor"??
Pearl Harbor was used as the pretext to declare war on Japan, and 9/11 was used a pretext to invade Iraq and the neverending "war on terror".
Are you disputing that??
Would you dispute the fact that neocons are warmongers thru and thru?? That they lied about WMD's?? That they are always looking for reasons to start wars, invade countries, arm rebels, etc, etc??
What is your point here?? Just trying to kick up some gorilla dust so you don't have to defend your indefensible hijacker theory??
There WERE NO 767 tankers until YEARS after 9/11
"In early 2002 the USAF started negotiations with Boeing on the lease of a tankers based on the Boeing 767 after it considered the Airbus A330-based tanker, the KC-330 to be more costly and a higher technical risk."
"Italy's aircraft became the first KC-767 to be assembled. The aircraft are initially built as 767-200ER commercial airplanes, then flown to a separate facility for conversion into tankers. Italy's first aircraft made its maiden flight on 21 May 2005."
Boeing KC-767 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Why would I watch the video if it is full of nonsense like this?
QUIT SHILLING THE VIDEO.
No one care.
Especially since YOUR references to it shows it to be full of *special* claims.
I would dispute a lot of that yeah. You are engaging in some classic false generalizations and accusations by innuendo. Your claims are clearly driven by ideology, not evidence.
Say, if you were an inside jobby-jobber and your objective was to start a war with Iraq (which already had broad public support in the summer of 2001 and would have required very little further incentive) would you stage a plot that involves no Iraqi's? Would you stage a plot where all of the alleged actors came from American allies like Saudi Arabia, Yemen, the UAE and Egypt? Doesn't that seem sort of implausible and unsupportable?
So what was "the catalyzing event" that led to The Patriot Act and the justification for invading Iraq??
WMD's?? As we all know that was a lie - wasn't it??
How can that be though - if you're government never lies to you??
Looks to me like you are evading that one..You are evading again. No more Gish, just one thing at a time.
What in your belief was the overriding objective for a 9/11 false flag attack?
Looks to me like you are evading that one..
I would like Wist43 to for once just answer a direct question. He has posted several times since it was first asked without answering it (kinda sounds a lot like you), a pattern he has repeated numerous times. Once he answers this question THEN we can move forward. After all, it is difficult to discuss his claims if we don't know what they are, wouldn't you agree? Motive is as good a place to start as anywhere.
He has answered more questions and provided more facts here in the 2 weeks or so he's been here than you have in the 1.5 years you have been here. All you really contribute is an effort to distract from substantive discussion.
Yes, I'm aware that the actual deal didn't go down until later, but speculation was that shenanigans were already going down in 2000. I know one Boeing executive ended up going to prison on other charges, and there was some talk by analysts that this was something that should be looked at, but nothing came of it. Rumsfeld didn't make any announcement about the missing $2.3 trillion until Sept. 10th (convenient, huh?), and I suspect that some of that missing $2.3 trillion would be in play here somewhere.
Even if legitimate transactions had taken place before 9/11 there is no way of proving it either way - just as there is no way of tracking down the $2.3 trillion. That would kind of be the point of smashing something exactly into Wedge 1 of the Pentagon, thereby killing the investigators and investigation along with it. As has been noted, 39 of the 40 investigators were killed.
We have never had a legitimate investigation into any of this stuff - that's the point. The illegitimate investigation gave us 19 yahoos with box cutters... Hollywood couldn't script a more unbelievable B movie.
This exerpt from an article a couple of years ago says it well...
"The amount of money missing from the Pentagon was $2.3 trillion. Rumsfeld blamed the loss on military spending. All of this was quickly forgotten the next day as airplanes slammed into the twin towers and an airborne object struck the Pentagon... Rumsfeld revealed earth shattering numbers regarding missing trillions, only to have the knowledge disappear in the rubble."
Salem-News, May 1, 2013
It's like Clinton bombing the baby formula factory - everyone was supposed to forget about the blowjob, lol...
Wow,
Just wow.
YOU claimed there were modified 767 tankers.
And this entire post is a handwave when you got debunked.
BTW - The "missing" $2.3 Trillion. You know this was known LONG before 9/11 and was accounted for well after 9/11?
No?
Is there no depth to your ignorance?
BTW - The "missing" $2.3 Trillion. You know this was known LONG before 9/11 and was accounted for well after 9/11?
Is there no depth to your ignorance?
WOW! Just double WOW!
Great googly wooglies!
They recovered the 2.3 trillion? WOW! I am shocked. Amazed! Surprised even!
Since when fled?
This exerpt from an article a couple of years ago says it well...
"The amount of money missing from the Pentagon was $2.3 trillion. Rumsfeld blamed the loss on military spending. All of this was quickly forgotten the next day as airplanes slammed into the twin towers and an airborne object struck the Pentagon... Rumsfeld revealed earth shattering numbers regarding missing trillions, only to have the knowledge disappear in the rubble."
Salem-News, May 1, 2013
BTW - The "missing" $2.3 Trillion. You know this was known LONG before 9/11 and was accounted for well after 9/11?
No?
Is there no depth to your ignorance?
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