UN: Tax meat until too expensive to eat...

[MickeyW]

Meat should be taxed at the wholesale level to raise the price and deter consumption, says a new report from the UN’s International Research Panel (IRP). This will (supposedly) save the environment and prevent global warming.

http://iceagenow.info/tax-meat-until-its-too-expensive-to-eat-new-un-report-suggests/


For 35 years I have been saying this: "Get Us Out of the UN" because they circumvent the sovereignty of the USA!

They are a bunch of socialist dickwads!

 

[roughdraft274]

Meat should be taxed at the wholesale level to raise the price and deter consumption, says a new report from the UN’s International Research Panel (IRP). This will (supposedly) save the environment and prevent global warming.

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For 35 years I have been saying this: "Get Us Out of the UN" because they circumvent the sovereignty of the USA!

They are a bunch of socialist dickwads!

How do they circumvent our sovereignty?

 

[Patrickt]

Meat should be taxed at the wholesale level to raise the price and deter consumption, says a new report from the UN’s International Research Panel (IRP). This will (supposedly) save the environment and prevent global warming.

http://iceagenow.info/tax-meat-until-its-too-expensive-to-eat-new-un-report-suggests/


For 35 years I have been saying this: "Get Us Out of the UN" because they circumvent the sovereignty of the USA!

They are a bunch of socialist dickwads!

It isn't just the U.N. There are fools who think taxes exist to fund the government. Not hardly. They're there to control. Back in Clinton's administration and before that Carter's people in the government were saying gasoline should be taxes until it was so high people couldn't drive. Of course, they didn't mean people as in wealthy people or people as in government employees. They meant people was working taxpayers and people on the dole.

Remember when taxes started jacking up to stop people from smoking? How about tax breaks to have children and buy houses, two things the government wants people to do. If you don't have the health insurance the nanny state says you need you have to big tax bill. There was also a big hit with taxes if you had a Cadillac Healthcare Plan, I believe, unless you were part of the Goverment/Union Organized Crime Family.

I agree we should send the U.N. to Havana and quit supporting them but the tax on meat is scarcely the issue.

 

[Henrin]

The government uses taxes to control behavior all the time. They raise taxes on things they want you to stop doing and lower taxes on things they want you to do. The entire practice should be outlawed, but that isn't going to happen.

 

[joG]

Meat should be taxed at the wholesale level to raise the price and deter consumption, says a new report from the UN’s International Research Panel (IRP). This will (supposedly) save the environment and prevent global warming.

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For 35 years I have been saying this: "Get Us Out of the UN" because they circumvent the sovereignty of the USA!

They are a bunch of socialist dickwads!

That is a measure that has been well know for 20 years, which will be necessary to reduce hothouse gas emissions to anywhere near, where the climate targets have been set. Beef consumption will be especially hard hit, but the average family will have to cut way down on all meats. What is more, that has been agreed to by the USA implicitly, as the Paris treaty cannot be honored otherwise.

This may be alleviated by improved GMOs and certainly with further development of motors that run independently of carbon based fuels. But in the meantime it will mean breaking international commitments or reducing central ideas expectations for the quality of life of Americans below median income and probably above it.

It will be interesting to see Clinton sell that to her own let alone BS and his followers.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Meat should be taxed at the wholesale level to raise the price and deter consumption, says a new report from the UN’s International Research Panel (IRP). This will (supposedly) save the environment and prevent global warming.

Tax meat until it’s too expensive to eat, new UN report suggests - Ice Age Now


For 35 years I have been saying this: "Get Us Out of the UN" because they circumvent the sovereignty of the USA!

They are a bunch of socialist dickwads!

Raise taxes much higher on meat? Good idea. I'm for that! If we decrease the processed meats that we all consume, maybe Americans won't be so doggone FAT...and the taxes can be used to pay off the national debt. Good idea. Seriously.

And when it becomes commercially viable, we should switch over to vat-grown meat - it'll be healthier and much better for the environment (and for all the animals that won't be so cruelly killed). Vat-grown meat...maybe we'll call it "Soylent Brown". Not "Soylent Green", of course - there's no need for that...yet.

See? Can'tcha feel the liberal vibes just a-washing all over you? And we're not done yet! We've got this new thing - it's called a "gay-ray"...and it'll make you feel all better and much happier, I promise....

 

[ajn678]

Raise taxes much higher on meat? Good idea. I'm for that! If we decrease the processed meats that we all consume, maybe Americans won't be so doggone FAT...and the taxes can be used to pay off the national debt. Good idea. Seriously.

And when it becomes commercially viable, we should switch over to vat-grown meat - it'll be healthier and much better for the environment (and for all the animals that won't be so cruelly killed). Vat-grown meat...maybe we'll call it "Soylent Brown". Not "Soylent Green", of course - there's no need for that...yet.

See? Can'tcha feel the liberal vibes just a-washing all over you? And we're not done yet! We've got this new thing - it's called a "gay-ray"...and it'll make you feel all better and much happier, I promise....

Its not the meats making Americans fat. Its the carbs and sugar. People will just eat more of these because they won't have as much protein which gives you a full feeling.

 

[blackjack50]

What the hell is wrong with eating meat? How long have we been doing it as humans? Obviously it isn't that big of a problem. Given that we have evolved to eat meats. **** me some people need to take a biological anthropology course.


Sent from my grapefruit using smoke signals.

 

[Beaudreaux]

Meat should be taxed at the wholesale level to raise the price and deter consumption, says a new report from the UN’s International Research Panel (IRP). This will (supposedly) save the environment and prevent global warming.

Tax meat until it’s too expensive to eat, new UN report suggests - Ice Age Now


For 35 years I have been saying this: "Get Us Out of the UN" because they circumvent the sovereignty of the USA!

They are a bunch of socialist dickwads!

First of all, the UN can't do anything. Second, they need to pick one story, and stick to it: 29 November 2006 – Cattle-rearing generates more global warming greenhouse gases, as measured in CO2 equivalent, than transportation, and smarter production methods, including improved animal diets to reduce enteric fermentation and consequent methane emissions, are urgently needed, according to a new United Nations report released today.

 

[TheGoverness]

What the hell is wrong with eating meat? How long have we been doing it as humans? Obviously it isn't that big of a problem. Given that we have evolved to eat meats. **** me some people need to take a biological anthropology course.


Sent from my grapefruit using smoke signals.

Nothing's wrong with eating meat.

If anything, I have problems with the factory farming industry, not people simply eating meat.

 

[blackjack50]

Raise taxes much higher on meat? Good idea. I'm for that! If we decrease the processed meats that we all consume, maybe Americans won't be so doggone FAT...and the taxes can be used to pay off the national debt. Good idea. Seriously.

And when it becomes commercially viable, we should switch over to vat-grown meat - it'll be healthier and much better for the environment (and for all the animals that won't be so cruelly killed). Vat-grown meat...maybe we'll call it "Soylent Brown". Not "Soylent Green", of course - there's no need for that...yet.

See? Can'tcha feel the liberal vibes just a-washing all over you? And we're not done yet! We've got this new thing - it's called a "gay-ray"...and it'll make you feel all better and much happier, I promise....

Being fat isn't about "processed meats."

I can show you plenty of people who eat processed meat and are not fat at all. Hell...I have a friend who will go to mcdonalds at the end of weekend shifts on the fire department and eat 2 Big Macs and 2 large cokes. The guy is strong as hell and in great shape. Got a guy in my jujitsu class who is the same way, but loves him some Taco Bell.

Being fat is about genetics, not exercising properly, and basically being a lazy slob. This anti meat bull**** is ridiculous. Besides, what the hell is it the business of anyone if I decide to be a fat ****? Why is it someone else's business to be a crusader to stop me from being fat?

**** me. I've been hiking my ass off in North Carolina and I'm going on a 10 mile hike tomorrow. When I get back to Florida it will be back to running and jujitsu regularly. I'm a big guy and I accept it. It ain't your business how fat I am. Welcome to America. Besides...I'd like to see someone burpee their way out of a triangle choke.


Sent from my grapefruit using smoke signals.

 

[VanceMack]

That is a measure that has been well know for 20 years, which will be necessary to reduce hothouse gas emissions to anywhere near, where the climate targets have been set. Beef consumption will be especially hard hit, but the average family will have to cut way down on all meats. What is more, that has been agreed to by the USA implicitly, as the Paris treaty cannot be honored otherwise.

This may be alleviated by improved GMOs and certainly with further development of motors that run independently of carbon based fuels. But in the meantime it will mean breaking international commitments or reducing central ideas expectations for the quality of life of Americans below median income and probably above it.

It will be interesting to see Clinton sell that to her own let alone BS and his followers.

When is a treaty not a treaty?

When it hasnt been ratified by Congress. The Paris Treaty was smoke.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Its not the meats making Americans fat. Its the carbs and sugar. People will just eat more of these because they won't have as much protein which gives you a full feeling.

Very true. Thanks for the correction.

 

[ajn678]

Very true. Thanks for the correction.

Although a lot of the times, these processed meats are combined with great amounts of carbs and sugar. :doh

 

[coldjoint]

Meat should be taxed at the wholesale level to raise the price and deter consumption, says a new report from the UN’s International Research Panel (IRP). This will (supposedly) save the environment and prevent global warming.

Tax meat until it’s too expensive to eat, new UN report suggests - Ice Age Now


For 35 years I have been saying this: "Get Us Out of the UN" because they circumvent the sovereignty of the USA!

They are a bunch of socialist dickwads!

I wonder how they feel about pork.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Being fat isn't about "processed meats."

I can show you plenty of people who eat processed meat and are not fat at all. Hell...I have a friend who will go to mcdonalds at the end of weekend shifts on the fire department and eat 2 Big Macs and 2 large cokes. The guy is strong as hell and in great shape. Got a guy in my jujitsu class who is the same way, but loves him some Taco Bell.

Being fat is about genetics, not exercising properly, and basically being a lazy slob. This anti meat bull**** is ridiculous. Besides, what the hell is it the business of anyone if I decide to be a fat ****? Why is it someone else's business to be a crusader to stop me from being fat?

**** me. I've been hiking my ass off in North Carolina and I'm going on a 10 mile hike tomorrow. When I get back to Florida it will be back to running and jujitsu regularly. I'm a big guy and I accept it. It ain't your business how fat I am. Welcome to America. Besides...I'd like to see someone burpee their way out of a triangle choke.


Sent from my grapefruit using smoke signals.

You're right...and wrong. Being fat has a heck of a lot more to do with carb and salt intake than it does meat and other proteins. But you're wrong in your story about eating all the processed crap and being healthy as a horse. Why? It's a lot like those who smoke. I know lots of people who smoke, who are young and very healthy...but when they get to their 60's or so, they usually start going downhill a lot faster than those of us who never smoked. I know this because I watched this happen to my uncle, my brother, and my mother - they'd all been quite healthy into their middle age...and then they went downhill so quickly - smoking killed them all.

So it goes with eating stuff that is crap. You might be healthy as a horse now...but when you get into your 60's - and hopefully, you're not diabetic by then - your body simply won't be as healthy as the others who ate sensibly. Your liver and kidneys will be those of someone older than your biological age.

Don't get me wrong - I love eating that same crap, too. But I don't fool myself into thinking that I can eat the same crap so often and not pay dearly for it in the not too distant future.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Although a lot of the times, these processed meats are combined with great amounts of carbs and sugar. :doh

Very true.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Its not the meats making Americans fat. Its the carbs and sugar. People will just eat more of these because they won't have as much protein which gives you a full feeling.

It's not just the carbs and sugar, either. It's the fact that we don't exercise.

I've spent quite a bit of time in Russia and it is rare to see someone obese. It's not because they're all poor and don't eat enough, it's because they walk... A LOT.

 

[ajn678]

It's not just the carbs and sugar, either. It's the fact that we don't exercise.

I've spent quite a bit of time in Russia and it is rare to see someone obese. It's not because they're all poor and don't eat enough, it's because they walk... A LOT.

Well yea, exercising helps. But what really is the best is not eating tons of crap and also exercising.

 

[joG]

When is a treaty not a treaty?

When it hasnt been ratified by Congress. The Paris Treaty was smoke.

While I agree with that in principal and most world leaders understand that, it will be rather a brouhaha, if we neg out.

But that was not the point.

 

[ludin]

Its not the meats making Americans fat. Its the carbs and sugar. People will just eat more of these because they won't have as much protein which gives you a full feeling.

I am on a nutrition plan that is mostly protean and not as many carbs.
In the past week and a half I have lost 8 pounds mostly by cutting out a lot of carb and sugar.

Some carbs are ok just not a lot. I have dropped 16 pounds since I got back from project.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

**** the UN and anyone who tries to coerce behavior by taxation.

I think ill go get some bacon.

 

[VanceMack]

While I agree with that in principal and most world leaders understand that, it will be rather a brouhaha, if we neg out.

But that was not the point.

Brouhaha? Not at all. No more so than the Kyoto Accords which were never ratified. And that IS the point. Nothing agreed to by attendees is relevant until it has been passed and ratified by Congress. The UN does not have the power to assign law in the US...therefor the worry expressed in the OP is much ado about nothing.

 

[Casper]

Meat should be taxed at the wholesale level to raise the price and deter consumption, says a new report from the UN’s International Research Panel (IRP). This will (supposedly) save the environment and prevent global warming.

Tax meat until it’s too expensive to eat, new UN report suggests - Ice Age Now


For 35 years I have been saying this: "Get Us Out of the UN" because they circumvent the sovereignty of the USA!

They are a bunch of socialist dickwads!

Do they understand that the UN cannot impose taxes, me thinks not. Just more proof the UN is useless, time to drop out and move their headquarters to someplace more to their liking, maybe China.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

Meat should be taxed at the wholesale level to raise the price and deter consumption, says a new report from the UN’s International Research Panel (IRP). This will (supposedly) save the environment and prevent global warming.

Tax meat until it’s too expensive to eat, new UN report suggests - Ice Age Now


For 35 years I have been saying this: "Get Us Out of the UN" because they circumvent the sovereignty of the USA!

They are a bunch of socialist dickwads!

The UN itself cannot "tax", your argument is invalid.