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UN General Assembly suspends Russia from Human Rights Council

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Ukraine's Ambassador to the UN Sergiy Kyslytsya speaks during a meeting of the United Nations General Assembly on 4.7.22

4.7.22
The United Nations General Assembly has voted to suspend Russia from the Human Rights Council during a meeting Thursday. The voting result: in favor 93; against 24; abstention 58. In a draft of the resolution, the UNGA said the General Assembly would “suspend the rights of membership in the Human Rights Council of a member of the Council that commits gross and systematic violations of human rights.” The General Assembly needed to vote in favor by two-thirds to remove Russia from the council. Before the vote, China’s UN ambassador Zhang Jun said the country would vote against the move.


Neither Russia nor China can veto a UNGA Resolution.

With its terrible human rights record regarding its Uyghur population, China should also be suspended.
 

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Ukraine's Ambassador to the UN Sergiy Kyslytsya speaks during a meeting of the United Nations General Assembly on 4.7.22




Neither Russia nor China can veto a UNGA Resolution.

With its terrible human rights record regarding its Uyghur population, China should also be suspended.
Took 'em long enough!
 

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Took 'em long enough!

It had to be rejected (Russia, China) by the UNSC first before it could come to the UNGA for a vote.

Russia sent out threatening letters before this vote.
 

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Ukraine's Ambassador to the UN Sergiy Kyslytsya speaks during a meeting of the United Nations General Assembly on 4.7.22
Neither Russia nor China can veto a UNGA Resolution.
With its terrible human rights record regarding its Uyghur population, China should also be suspended.
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Ukraine's Ambassador to the UN Sergiy Kyslytsya speaks during a meeting of the United Nations General Assembly on 4.7.22




Neither Russia nor China can veto a UNGA Resolution.

With its terrible human rights record regarding its Uyghur population, China should also be suspended.
The US are also no angels when it comes to violating human rights. Torture, illegal detention without access to legal representation, extraordinary rendition, illegal wars, invasions, financing and arming terrorists, bombing nations which didn't even look sideways at the US while simultaneously preaching how awful they are etc., etc.
Yes, Russia's unprovoked invasion is awful and should be condemned in the strongest terms; however the odour of hypocrisy is evident when we in the 'enlightened' West attempt to claim ownership of moral superiority.
 
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The US are also no angels when it comes to violating human rights. Torture, illegal detention without access to legal representation, extraordinary rendition, illegal wars, invasions, financing and arming terrorists, bombing nations which didn't even look sideways at the US while simultaneously preaching how awful they are etc., etc.
Yes, Russia's unprovoked invasion is awful and should be condemned in the strongest terms; however the odour of hypocrisy is evident when we in the 'enlightened' West attempt to claim ownership of moral superiority.

You conveniently ignored your own country's horrible human rights record.

But ya got that anti-America rant out there. And the Kremlin smiles.
 

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You conveniently ignored your own country's horrible human rights record.

But ya got that anti-America rant out there. And the Kremlin smiles.
You conveniently ignored your own country's horrible human rights record.

But ya got that anti-America rant out there. And the Kremlin smiles.
Did you miss the "we in the 'enlightened' West" bit? What did you think the collective "we" means? Anti-America? Not really; but anti your horrible foreign policy? Absolutely; the fact remains, however, that the US has waged more aggressive wars, indulged in illegal invasions invasions, election meddling in sovereign nations, supporting and arming terrorists, overturning legitimate democracies, than any other nation since the end of WW2. And all in pursuit of American 'interests' (hegemony).
 

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The US are also no angels when it comes to violating human rights. Torture, illegal detention without access to legal representation, extraordinary rendition, illegal wars, invasions, financing and arming terrorists, bombing nations which didn't even look sideways at the US while simultaneously preaching how awful they are etc., etc.
Yes, Russia's unprovoked invasion is awful and should be condemned in the strongest terms; however the odour of hypocrisy is evident when we in the 'enlightened' West attempt to claim ownership of moral superiority.
America isnt perfect, but anything done by the US military is nothing compared to what Russia is doing now.
 

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Did you miss the "we in the 'enlightened' West" bit?

Yet you managed to specifically identify the US in your rant.

Nary a word about your own country's horrors under colonialism.
 

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Really? You don't think these statistics are horrifying? In Iraq the US and NATO screwed up as badly as the Russians in Ukraine.
Appeal to emotion fallacy. Show proof that it was deliberate US military actions that caused all those deaths.
 

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Not touchy. I'm just not keen on protecting the Union Jack at someone else's expense.
It isn't the Union 'Jack'. It's the Union Flag. Only if it is flown on ship's jackstaff is it erroneously called the Union Jack, through habit more than anything.
 

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Really? You don't think these statistics are horrifying? In Iraq the US and NATO screwed up as badly as the Russians in Ukraine.

If you actually dig into the details the number one killer of Iraqis was other Iraqis and the Coalition death count was but a fraction of overall deaths.
 

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You conveniently ignored your own country's horrible human rights record.

But ya got that anti-America rant out there. And the Kremlin smiles.
Dang! That's the first thing I have heard from Rogue that I could agree with.
 

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If you actually dig into the details the number one killer of Iraqis was other Iraqis and the Coalition death count was but a fraction of overall deaths.
You are correct, but prior to the invasion-surely the catalyst for the inter-factional Sunni vs.Shia fighting-Iraq was functioning normally-albeit under a loathsome dictator.

 
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