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UN cites possible crimes vs. humanity in China’s Xinjiang

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GENEVA (AP) — China’s discriminatory detention of Uyghurs and other mostly Muslim ethnic groups in the western region of Xinjiang may constitute crimes against humanity, the U.N. human rights office said in a long-awaited report released Wednesday, which cited “serious” rights violations and patterns of torture meted out in recent years.

The report calls for an urgent international response over allegations of torture and other rights violations in Beijing’s campaign to root out terrorism.

U.N. human rights chief Michelle Bachelet, facing pressure on both sides of the issue, brushed aside multiple Chinese calls for her office to withhold the report, which follows her own carefully crafted trip to Xinjiang in May. Beijing has contended that the report is part of a Western campaign to smear China’s reputation.

The report has fanned a tug-of-war for diplomatic influence with the West over the rights of the region’s native Uyghurs and other predominantly Muslim ethnic groups.

Is anyone surprised? Anyone? Bueller?

@Tigerace117 , turns out you weren't exaggerating even a little bit.

 



Is anyone surprised? Anyone? Bueller?

@Tigerace117 , turns out you weren't exaggerating even a little bit.


Oh, they’ve been committing genocide for a quite a while now. The real surprise is that the UN had the spine to outright admit it.
 



Is anyone surprised? Anyone? Bueller?

@Tigerace117 , turns out you weren't exaggerating even a little bit.

What!!?? China committing crimes against humanity!!?? Surely you jest!
 
Oh, they’ve been committing genocide for a quite a while now. The real surprise is that the UN had the spine to outright admit it.

Yes, and now they will issue a bowel-liquifying terrifying condemnation over it.

The UN is useless as hell, mostly because of the veto. The only way to deal with this sort of shit is to turn off trade.
 
Oh, they’ve been committing genocide for a quite a while now. The real surprise is that the UN had the spine to outright admit it.
It was her last day.
 
Yes, and now they will issue a bowel-liquifying terrifying condemnation over it.

The UN is useless as hell, mostly because of the veto. The only way to deal with this sort of shit is to turn off trade.
Oh, there is almost certainly a sternly written letter coming!
 
Yes, and now they will issue a bowel-liquifying terrifying condemnation over it.

The UN is useless as hell, mostly because of the veto. The only way to deal with this sort of shit is to turn off trade.

To be fair, the US wanted it impotent just as much as every other power did. Nobody wanted to risk having to face actual consequences for their actions.
 
That makes a lot of sense, sadly.
Yeah, no one talks shit about China and gets away with it. Child labor is just too cheap. And that's the problem with Commie nations. They ain't Marxist styled communists where everything is for the People. They are horrible authoritative dictatorships based around a God Emperor.
 
Yeah, no one talks shit about China and gets away with it. Child labor is just too cheap. And that's the problem with Commie nations. They ain't Marxist styled communists where everything is for the People. They are horrible authoritative dictatorships based around a God Emperor.
If we had principles, we'd just freeze them out by, you know, not buying anything from them.
 
Shocked, just shocked to find there is genocide being committed here...
 
If we had principles, we'd just freeze them out by, you know, not buying anything from them.
Donald Trump liked your post.

The rest of the planet was more sensible...
 
If we had principles, we'd just freeze them out by, you know, not buying anything from them.
If we had principles. But we use the Chinese child labor to subsidize the American labor market. So our CEOs can get richer, while our working class gets poorer. But we try to hide how much poorer they're actually getting by buying cheap shit made by some kid in China.
 
If we had principles. But we use the Chinese child labor to subsidize the American labor market. So our CEOs can get richer, while our working class gets poorer. But we try to hide how much poorer they're actually getting by buying cheap shit made by some kid in China.
Yep. IF. We obviously don't.
 
If we had principles, we'd just freeze them out by, you know, not buying anything from them.
I'm all for it but it would be a massive shock to our economy. And it could make china very dangerous.
 
I'm all for it but it would be a massive shock to our economy. And it could make china very dangerous.

Yes, that's true.

But principles aren't hobbies. Sometimes it's really dangerous to have them, but it's better than being supine in the face of genocide.
 
Yep. IF. We obviously don't.
We ain't, because the Corporate State runs us all. Trump supporters actually bitch about this, with the "swamp" and shit. The problem is, they put their loyalty to one who was just the ****ing same. Trump is just the other side of the Corporate State Coin. He was never for us, he was never against the swamp. So nothing changed.

Ain't shit going to change under Biden either.

What would happen if tomorrow we snapped our fingers and we only had products from like Europe, Canada, the US? How quickly would the American People be crushed?

This is the oligarchy under which we live. This is the new aristocracy. And the American worker be damned, Bezos needs to go to space again.
 
Yes, that's true.

But principles aren't hobbies. Sometimes it's really dangerous to have them, but it's better than being supine in the face of genocide.
I hear ya but the real world only seems to occasionally do principals.

One thing those that come down on U.S, businesses for having their products made in China don't understand is, if their competitor is doing it and able to charge lower retail prices they either follow suit or go under. My brother explained this to me when he was a comptroller and accountant for a small corporation. That said the product that came back was so inferior they couldn't use China.
 
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We ain't, because the Corporate State runs us all. Trump supporters actually bitch about this, with the "swamp" and shit. The problem is, they put their loyalty to one who was just the ****ing same. Trump is just the other side of the Corporate State Coin. He was never for us, he was never against the swamp. So nothing changed.

Ain't shit going to change under Biden either.

What would happen if tomorrow we snapped our fingers and we only had products from like Europe, Canada, the US? How quickly would the American People be crushed?

This is the oligarchy under which we live. This is the new aristocracy. And the American worker be damned, Bezos needs to go to space again.
See, I have worked in the private sector, and I now work for one of those three letter agencies that nobody's ever heard of, and I have to say that corporate state is mostly corporate and very little state.

The "swamp" isn't in the federal government, it's in the financial system, which is an entirely separate thing.

The federal government is a huge stupid machine that delivers A when you press B. That's it. It's too dumb to be evil, because the true sinews of the government, the bureaucracy, is composed entirely of people building dinky little empires and trying to stay out of trouble until that magical retirement date. It's petty and it's largely dumb, but it is about as dangerous as a wasp's nest in wintertime. You have to really WORK to get its full, undivided attention.

On the other side of the coin, you have the corporations. Most of my time with them was in the defense industry, and what happens there is that about 12-20 people focus all their time on gathering as much boodle as they can steal, by whatever means are necessary. So dealing with slavers isn't just an easy decision, it isn't a decision at all.
 
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