Yes, you can. Ukraine didn't invade Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine. What part of that don't you understand? And what part of "Ukraine has the right to defend itself", don't you understand?
This is like someone complaining about a victim trespassing on someone else's property while they are frantically running away from the scene of an attempted murder. This is "Heads I Win, Tails You Lose" bullshit. This is like the cops yelling, "Stop Resisting" while they are beating the shit out of a suspect.
And where these civilian buildings? On the front line? Next to all the other civilian buildings Russia bombed to hell? Were any civilians there? When did these incidents take place? At the beginning of the war when Ukraine was trying to figure out how to defend itself from a much more powerful adversary?
Where are the complaints about Bucha? Did you see the photos of the Ukrainians bound and shot in the head? Where are the complaints about Russia deliberately targeting civilian areas? Where are the complaints about Russia breaking the grain shipment agreements with strikes on the Ukrainian ports? Russia is castrating Ukrainian POWs. Did you see the video of the Ukrainian POW getting his balls cut off? You ain't got shit to say about that, do you? Not a single word. Russia is murdering Ukrainian POWS. Where was all your commentary on those Amnesty International articles? Nothing. I didn't see anything from you or the anti-NATO/Pro-Russians except excuses, rationalizations, and outright promotion of bullshit Russian lies and propaganda. I did see a little poem mocking NATO's support of Ukraine and Ukraine's courageous defense of itself. I suppose that's more fun than talking about all the dead Ukrainian civilians.
And this is what you focus on?
"GOTCHA ZELENSKY! GOTCHA ZELENSKY!"
Ukraine's crime in your mind is not already surrendering.
**** THAT!
It's disgusting what the pro Russians in this thread support.
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So does Amnesty judging by the argumentation in the report. (well they open up to the option of laying down weapons altogether and letting Russia fight on it's own)
take it up with Amnesty
sheltering in civilian populations during a war of airstrikes and artillery is calling down strikes on your troops knowing they are using civilians in an attempt to place troops for operational use is a deliberate crimeYes, you can. Ukraine didn't invade Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine. What part of that don't you understand? And what part of "Ukraine has the right to defend itself", don't you understand?
This is like someone complaining about a victim trespassing on someone else's property while they are frantically running away from the scene of an attempted murder. This is "Heads I Win, Tails You Lose" bullshit. This is like the cops yelling, "Stop Resisting" while they are beating the shit out of a suspect.
And where these civilian buildings? On the front line? Next to all the other civilian buildings Russia bombed to hell? Were any civilians there? When did these incidents take place? At the beginning of the war when Ukraine was trying to figure out how to defend itself from a much more powerful adversary?
Where are the complaints about Bucha? Did you see the photos of the Ukrainians bound and shot in the head? Where are the complaints about Russia deliberately targeting civilian areas? Where are the complaints about Russia breaking the grain shipment agreements with strikes on the Ukrainian ports? Russia is castrating Ukrainian POWs. Did you see the video of the Ukrainian POW getting his balls cut off? You ain't got shit to say about that, do you? Not a single word. Russia is murdering Ukrainian POWS. Where was all your commentary on those Amnesty International articles? Nothing. I didn't see anything from you or the anti-NATO/Pro-Russians except excuses, rationalizations, and outright promotion of bullshit Russian lies and propaganda. I did see a little poem mocking NATO's support of Ukraine and Ukraine's courageous defense of itself. I suppose that's more fun than talking about all the dead Ukrainian civilians.
And this is what you focus on?
"GOTCHA ZELENSKY! GOTCHA ZELENSKY!"
Ukraine's crime in your mind is not already surrendering.
**** THAT!
It's disgusting what the pro Russians in this thread support.
If the Russians are trying to take cities and villages by military means, you will find Ukrainian military in those villages and cities defending them by trying to keep the Russian military out. What is the alternative? There is absolutely nothing in the Geneva convention that suggest that you are not allowed to defend yourself from an invading power if you are a populated area. That is what Amnesty, and you are implying, and it is ludicrous.take it up with Amnesty
sheltering in civilian populations during a war of airstrikes and artillery is calling down strikes on your troops knowing they are using civilians in an attempt to place troops for operational use is a deliberate crime
I dont follow all the daily grind. I did see something about Kyiv hitting a POW camp which of course you denied and spun
In your mind Ukraine can do anything and Russia cant do anything; well that's not how it works
On Bucha the clothes arent dirty, you cant see faces and bodies are always buried quickly bodies shown in some footage did not show characteristic signs of degradation that would be expected after a number of days.
But my point stands. we want this war to degrade Russia, we made zero attempts to prevent it and over the years changed Ukraine (Kyiv faction) from neutral to pro-west
Hope they get him before he can hurt someone else but he is a has-been no matter what. Russia will let him fight until he is killed or kill him themselves. They do not want him back in Russia no matter what, I mean, who would want a person like that running around in your society?Bellingcat doing it's usual amazing investigative work here:
Tracking the Faceless Killers who Mutilated and Executed a Ukrainian POW - bellingcat
In a series of gruesome videos, a man wearing a cowboy hat mutilates a Ukrainian prisoner of war before murdering him. Open source evidence suggests the involvement of a Chechen-led paramilitary group.www.bellingcat.com
Hope they get him before he can hurt someone else but he is a has-been no matter what. Russia will let him fight until he is killed or kill him themselves. They do not want him back in Russia no matter what, I mean, who would want a person like that running around in your society?
(Actually, even if Russia are premiering assaults and war crimes against Ukrainians, they have shown that they have a limit for those that re-enter their own society by arresting the soldier who raped a three year old.)
Germany rolled into Poland on Sept 1st . France and the UK declared war on Germany on Sept 3rd. Pretty much immediately. They probably had vague information about the nature of the event in the first day.Not quite imediately
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Amnesty International issued a report on Thursday accusing the Ukrainian military of stationing its troops and artillery near hospitals, schools and residential buildings in ways that may amount to war crimes. The international human rights organization says it spent two months in Ukraine interviewing locals and collecting physical evidence to compile the report. "Viable alternatives were available that would not endanger civilians – such as military bases or densely wooded areas nearby, or other structures further away from residential areas," the report states. The report got harsh pushback from Ukrainian officials and civil society leaders. Perhaps the most surprising criticism came from Amnesty's very own Ukraine operation. "We did everything we could to prevent this report from going public," wrote Oksana Pokalchuk, Amnesty Ukraine's leader on Facebook. She and her team claim that there are several discrepancies in the report, which was compiled by foreign observers, without any assistance from local staff.] "Every single member of Amnesty's Ukraine office knows that only the Russian Federation bears responsibility for the crime of aggression against Ukraine, not the least of which because several of our colleagues had to leave everything behind to save themselves and their families," reads Amnesty Ukraine's statement.
It's aggression from Russia that is causing NATO's expansion. Russia's neighbors don't feel safe anymore because of Putzin and his delusions of rebuilding the USSRNATO expansion ( remember the chess analogy) is by definition a switch from a defensive posture to aggressive
ThisWhile I hope Ukraine can come up with more artillery the Donbas is not as important as Kherson. I'd gladly trade the whole of the Donbas for recovery of the southern coastline. I believe that is the attitude of the Ukrainians as well.
Newly arrived on the battlefield.
Britain sent an ultimatum to Germany to cease hostilities or a state of war would exist between Great Britain and Germany. Germany declined to reply and the war with Britain started. France did the same declaring war a few hours after Britain. If it was immediate Britain would have instantly been at war once the invasion began, hence my comment that it want quite immediately.Germany rolled into Poland on Sept 1st . France and the UK declared war on Germany on Sept 3rd. Pretty much immediately. They probably had vague information about the nature of the event in the first day.
Sounds like their parent org may have an agenda.Amnesty International's report criticizing Ukraine is dividing the rights group
A report says Ukraine placed its forces near noncombatants, putting them in danger. Government officials say they evacuate civilians from combat areas, and that the report depicts "a false reality."www.npr.org
Amnesty International Ukraine does not agree with the report issued by the parent organization.
NATO expansion ( remember the chess analogy) is by definition a switch from a defensive posture to aggressive we never had to expand NATO. all members involved with Gorbachev negotiations realized this and assured Gorby we had no designs on Russian redlines. we blew right past that, and even when it was crunch time with Russia massing on Uk borderand asking us to take it's redlines seriously - well you know we told Russia to **** off.and then act like "why is Russia so aggressive?
Winter is coming for the Russians. fuel,ammo. food increases fastGood. The less ammo they have in Zaporizhzhia the better.
@anattaNATO is a defensive alliance that sovereign nations join voluntarily.