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The best thing you can do, put them on your ignore list.
Than you do not feed them.
Done.
The best thing you can do, put them on your ignore list.
Than you do not feed them.
Yeah, this thread just got shorter and smarter.Done.
Please, please listen to @W_Heisenberg and just drop this topic. I really do not want to give you a lesson on South Vietnam; you are not a quick enough learner.
Actually it was a very goof analogy but you cant admit it because only spew Russian propagandaRussia will reach the Dnieper river, put up a secured border and call everthing east of the river, Russia. This is not going to take that long. This is not like an endless war in a country on the opposite side of the world, as Vietnam was for the US. Frankly, it was a poor analogy.
I made no demand. (And watch calling me irrational; that is trash talk.) In your parlance, I "spoke my piece".Your demands are increasingly irrational. Let @W_Heisenberg say his piece and let @justoneman say his piece.
Propaganda of all types should be ignored. I don't hold it against anyone if they occasionally fall for misinformation. Deliberate refusal to hear anything to the contrary is a different matter.
If the Russians posted more that just propaganda they would be listened to more.
Notice how Juin brings it up here, but curiously fell silent when he was asked if Russia was above killing POWs.
Methinks thou doeth protesteth too much!
You can carry on your Angelic Ukrainians and Demonic Russians.
Juin, your examples from the Civil war do not cut it. 99% of the US Generals were just friking military morons. The troops they lead had their officers elected, even their senior officers.
Lee was a 1 trick pony, had no idea of a overall strategic plan. Had only 1 solution to a battle. The Union Generals, should have not made Corporal.
The incompetence of military leadership in the civil war is just epic, including the troops.
The one who finally got it was Grant, but the rest are just pretenders, actors. From the military side, that war is a embarrassment, of incompetence and nothing more, costing 100 of thousand soldiers their lives.
Nothing to be proud of.
I think you need a better rebuttal.
That has never been my belief. Your projection is as weak as your arguments.
In a land of angels and demons the rebuttal I gave is the only appropriate one.
As they say: fool me once..... lol
The difference is the USSR was about domination of the world under Communism.Yes, that makes it totally different.
What's Putin's background, again?
It's cool that you like studying military history, especially stories about military history, and myths about military history, and, I suppose, military strategy (of which I've seen absolutely no evidence of), but the fact that this is an interest of yours doesn't make you immune from criticism. And I don't know why you think it would.
There is a reason why I gave you an example of General Lee splitting his forces in the same geographic area a year later. If I can give you an example of the same general splitting his forces in the same geographic area a year later -- within the same geographic scope and even within a similar time frame -- you can't make an argument about scope, and therefore your reference to Gen. Lee and some hypothetical advice on his part cautioning against splitting one's forces is bullshit.
that was the USSR, not Russia
The difference is the USSR was about domination of the world under Communism.
Ironically NATO expansion and weaponization of Ukraine even before the invasion was about dominating Russia
and creating a new Cold War 2 for no sane reason.
We couldn't simply take the victory of the fall of the USSR and the demise of Russian communism.
We had to exorcise Russia out of any western ties. China approves and welcomes The new Sino-Russian partnership
It's not necessary for Ukraine to win "some big battle" in order to win the war. It would be nice, but it's not necessary. Vietnam is a good example of an inferior army losing repeatedly to a superior army, yet ultimately winning the war.
And with the Russians deliberately targeting civilians with missile strikes, murdering civilians (Bucha), murdering POWs (Olenivka), and also castrating POWs we are now in a situation where NATO countries are now more motivated than ever to support the Ukrainians.
There is now evidence that the Russians
1) pre-dug graves for the POWs.
2) housed the POWs in a separate facility prior to the bombing.
3) bombed the POWs inside the target facility themselves.
And given the fact that the Russians already publicly declared their intent to execute the Azov prisoners, absent evidence to the contrary, it's more likely than not that the Russians engaged in a war crime and murdered the POWs.
Russia's underbelly is probably headed fr another war
Armenia backed by Russia.
Azerbaijan went thru a massive upgrade in military kit.
Backed by Turkey and a large buyer of weapons from Turkey & Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_war
Ummmm...I think he was suggesting that in this particular situation, Russia is much like the US in fighting a war where the locals (VC and NVA) don't grow so tired because it is their homeland, and their suppliers aren't losing troops.
In other words, it is possible the Ukrainian people and its suppliers can win by simply waiting for the Russian public to tire of the war.
It's a very costly strategy, and I think probably needlessly bloody, but it is at least possible.
Russia will reach the Dnieper river, put up a secured border and call everthing east of the river, Russia. This is not going to take that long. This is not like an endless war in a country on the opposite side of the world, as Vietnam was for the US. Frankly, it was a poor analogy.
It's true that some ethnic Russians who are Ukrainian citizens - rebelling against the Ukrainian government -- are fighting for the Russian government. It's also true that ethnic Russians -- before this war -- represented approximately 17% of the Ukrainian population and were heavily concentrated in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, which Russia now occupies. So the impact of Russian ethnicity only goes so far. The further West that Russia ventures, the less tenable your ethnic argument is.
Russia will reach the Dnieper river, put up a secured border and call everthing east of the river, Russia. This is not going to take that long. This is not like an endless war in a country on the opposite side of the world, as Vietnam was for the US. Frankly, it was a poor analogy.
The difference is the USSR was about domination of the world under Communism.
Ironically NATO expansion and weaponization of Ukraine even before the invasion was about dominating Russia
and creating a new Cold War 2 for no sane reason.
We couldn't simply take the victory of the fall of the USSR and the demise of Russian communism.
We had to exorcise Russia out of any western ties. China approves and welcomes The new Sino-Russian partnership