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[W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread


I have a friend with GBS, acquired twenty years ago after severe chemo for Hep A and C. It took away a great deal of this stamina and periodically forces him to use a wheel chair. It's effects cycled from apparent recovery to periods of being bedridden. Over the years he has slowly improved and now at 80 has learned to not physically push himself so as to avoid the worst effects (he is no longer finds himself bed ridden).

However, its not killing him and save for the hand shaking and periodic use of his motorized wheelchair for longer distances, he still works at his home business.

Unfortunately, it won't kill Putin.

Still, GBS wouldn't explain Putin's edema.
 
6 months later?


That article's lede obviously didn't age well. However, I have had the article for many months and it doesn't read nearly as mistaken as one might suppose.

In a nutshell, the Rand author(s) noted all of Ukraine's disadvantages such as having to cover large rural areas, old equipment, and inexperience. He also noted Russia's experienced troops and pilots fought in the war in Syria, it had tactical fires cued by drones, and 'far better trained and equipped to conducted air and land warfare maneuvers. He said:

In short, the military balance between Russia and Ukraine is so lopsided in Moscow’s favor that any assistance Washington might provide in coming weeks would be largely irrelevant in determining the outcome of a conflict should it begin. Russia’s advantages in capacity, capability, and geography combine to pose insurmountable challenges for Ukrainian forces tasked with defending their country. The second argument for aid—changing the course of the war—thus does not hold water.

The third argument for aid is to provide assistance to enable a Ukrainian insurgency to impose costs on a Russian occupying force
. Many have in mind the historical analogy here of U.S. aid to the mujahideen in Afghanistan following the Soviet invasion in 1979. Indeed, some are even recommending providing the same Stinger shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles that plagued the Soviet air force at the time. ...

If Russia attempts a long-term occupation of areas with lots of hostile Ukrainians, these forms of support could, on the margins, complicate matters for Moscow. But ... the prospect of a marginally more costly occupation is unlikely to make a difference to Moscow if it gets to that stage (of insurgency); it will have already absorbed far more significant costs. ...

Obviously the author did not forsee that the Russians would be unusually incompetent and their added "experience" far less advantageous. And the Ukrainians turned out far more skilled, than he imagined. Nor did he appreciate that it would develop into a bloody and costly stalemate (so far) of both sides and then cost Russia so dearly. On the other hand, while weapons have determined the military outcome of present, and the war has not become an insurgency, it's costs are "disproportionately borne by Ukrainians. (and) At that stage of conflict, thousands—or, more likely, tens of thousands—of Ukrainians will have died. [/quote]

He was somewhat correct, except all has happened before it is an insurgency and while he was also correct that the US would not likely not supply the weapons needed it has supplied more than he imagined which has checked the Russian advance.

He concluded: "Military assistance now will at best be marginal in affecting the outcome of the crisis. It might be morally justified to help a U.S. partner at risk of aggression. But given the scale of the potential threat to Ukraine and its forces, the most effective way Washington can help is to work on finding a diplomatic solution.".

Thing is, that too was also going be unacceptable to Ukraine in that the only "solution" Putin wanted was turning Ukraine back into a vassal of Russia's run by handpicked Russian oligarch's and a "mini me" state.

Western weapons have made a near term difference, and severely damaged the Russian army. But in the long run? That remains to be seen...
 
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I have a friend with GBS, acquired twenty years ago after severe chemo for Hep A and C. It took away a great deal of this stamina and periodically forces him to use a wheel chair. It's effects cycled from apparent recovery to periods of being bedridden. Over the years he has slowly improved and now at 80 has learned to not physically push himself so as to avoid the worst effects (he is no longer finds himself bed ridden).

However, its not killing him and save for the hand shaking and periodic use of his motorized wheelchair for longer distances, he still works at his home business.

Unfortunately, it won't kill Putin.

Still, GBS wouldn't explain Putin's edema.
Rumors on his health are rampant
That said he does not look healthy
 
Russia must lose a lot more soldiers to end this war.
 
Rumors on his health are rampant
That said he does not look healthy

No he does not appear healthy. His puffy face and periodic incidents during the day suggest something more that GBS. This may not be as concerning if Putin were a normal person in a normal situation. However, he has built an image (clownish to Western viewers) of a "macho" bare chested leader, judo expert, and super duper hockey player.

Such matters alot in his environment; he knows that should he appear weak the sharks will circle for the first bite. Folks are already maneuvering to take his place and should he trip, it's possible that the jackals will "retire" him early.
 
Russia must lose a lot more soldiers to end this war.


The Russians must be taking notes. The next time they try to fake a HIMARs strike to cover for their mass murder of POWs, they won't be quite so pathetic in their fakery.
 
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No he does not appear healthy. His puffy face and periodic incidents during the day suggest something more that GBS. This may not be as concerning if Putin were a normal person in a normal situation. However, he has built an image (clownish to Western viewers) of a "macho" bare chested leader, judo expert, and super duper hockey player.

Such matters alot in his environment; he knows that should he appear weak the sharks will circle for the first bite. Folks are already maneuvering to take his place and should he trip, it's possible that the jackals will "retire" him early.
Is it possible he is severely stressed and that accounts for his issues? I know stress can even mimic a heart attack.
 
Is it possible he is severely stressed and that accounts for his issues? I know stress can even mimic a heart attack.

About the only time I have seen a hint of stress was in the first two months of the war, he was prone to be very threatening and theatrical. The guy is a psychopath, a cold fish, so I don't think that is it.

Edema can be from many conditions, from failing kidneys to different medications. I still believe he has some kind of blood based or thyroid cancer, likely under remission. Those medications probably are causing the puffiness. His need for unscheduled breaks must be from fatigue, the source of which might also be meds.

Oh... Parkinson's is another possibility.
 
Rumors on his health are rampant
That said he does not look healthy
Average lifespan of Russian males is mostly around 50's-60's tops.
Yes of course Putin has an army of medical specialists but the stresses of not winning, and possibly losing, a war which he hyped as essential to Russia's future has to be affecting him.
 


This full story is actually emblematic of the daily suffering and damage inflicted on all of Ukraine's people in this war, the wanton killing of civilians with cluster bombs, the endless extermination of Ukraine's cities.

It is also emblematic of the rage and perhaps desperation of Putin, and his threats (and fears) against those who might return the favor on Russian cities.

Finally, its another reason that the WEST has to treat this as a full scale war, with Ukraine as its location. THE WORLD MUST SCREAM 'ENOUGH IS ENOUGH' YOU SICK RUSSIAN BASTARD AND WE WILL OPEN UKRAINE'S PORTS FOR YOU IF YOU DON'T! AND STOP LAYING WASTE TO CIVILIAN TARGETS OR THEIR WILL BE EQUAL AND PROPORTIONAL RETALIATION.
 

BRICS treaty; sufficiently boosted by Trump now used by Putin.


 





The Razoni is headed to Lebanon where bread is currently rationed.



Nikopol (107,500) which is west of the Dneiper river and about 63 km south-east of Kryvyy Rih and 48 km south-west of Zaporizhzhya..
 
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This supposedly is the war criminal who performed the castratiion on a POW.

His unique tattoos render him vulnerable to retribution.
 
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