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Ukraine attracts and trains western white supremacists

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https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-ba...icalizing-american-white-supremacists/251951/

Last month, an unsealed FBI indictment of four American white supremacists from the Rise Above Movement (RAM) declared that the defendants had trained with Ukraine’s Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi militia officially incorporated into the country’s national guard. The training took place after the white supremacist gang participated in violent riots in Huntington Beach and Berkeley, California and Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017.

Not only are white supremacists from across the West flocking to Ukraine to learn from the combat experience of their fascist brothers-in-arms, they are doing so openly — chronicling their experiences on social media before they bring their lessons back home. But U.S. law enforcement has done nothing so far to restrict the flow of right-wing American extremists to Azov’s bases. There is one likely explanation for the U.S. government’s hands-off approach to Azov recruitment: the extremist militia is fighting pro-Russian separatists as a front-line proxy of Washington. In fact, the United States has directly armed the Azov Battalion, forking over anti-tank rocket launchers and even sending a team of Army officers to meet in the field with Azov commanders in 2017.
 
https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-ba...icalizing-american-white-supremacists/251951/

Last month, an unsealed FBI indictment of four American white supremacists from the Rise Above Movement (RAM) declared that the defendants had trained with Ukraine’s Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi militia officially incorporated into the country’s national guard. The training took place after the white supremacist gang participated in violent riots in Huntington Beach and Berkeley, California and Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017.

Not only are white supremacists from across the West flocking to Ukraine to learn from the combat experience of their fascist brothers-in-arms, they are doing so openly — chronicling their experiences on social media before they bring their lessons back home. But U.S. law enforcement has done nothing so far to restrict the flow of right-wing American extremists to Azov’s bases. There is one likely explanation for the U.S. government’s hands-off approach to Azov recruitment: the extremist militia is fighting pro-Russian separatists as a front-line proxy of Washington. In fact, the United States has directly armed the Azov Battalion, forking over anti-tank rocket launchers and even sending a team of Army officers to meet in the field with Azov commanders in 2017.

The fine line between legal or illegal is whether their actions show an intent to take up arms against the USA.
 


the Orange county register goes deeper into the report than the CNN etc

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/10/...se-white-supremacists-in-southern-california/

Miselis, Daley and other members of their group also traveled to Germany and the Ukraine earlier this year, and met with members of well-known violent white supremacy groups, prosecutors said.
 
https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-ba...icalizing-american-white-supremacists/251951/

Last month, an unsealed FBI indictment of four American white supremacists from the Rise Above Movement (RAM) declared that the defendants had trained with Ukraine’s Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi militia officially incorporated into the country’s national guard. The training took place after the white supremacist gang participated in violent riots in Huntington Beach and Berkeley, California and Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017.

Not only are white supremacists from across the West flocking to Ukraine to learn from the combat experience of their fascist brothers-in-arms, they are doing so openly — chronicling their experiences on social media before they bring their lessons back home. But U.S. law enforcement has done nothing so far to restrict the flow of right-wing American extremists to Azov’s bases. There is one likely explanation for the U.S. government’s hands-off approach to Azov recruitment: the extremist militia is fighting pro-Russian separatists as a front-line proxy of Washington. In fact, the United States has directly armed the Azov Battalion, forking over anti-tank rocket launchers and even sending a team of Army officers to meet in the field with Azov commanders in 2017.

Wow... Four whole Neo Nazis...

Impressive.

Really.

Four.

America’s neo-Nazis don’t look to Germany for inspiration. They look to Russia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-they-look-to-russia/?utm_term=.92cd46ff2f99
 
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A blatant attempt to attack the messenger rather than discuss the message.

As Godric points out, the core facts are clear, however much someone may try to obfuscate.

Yep... Four whole Neo Nazis have you riled up... While Russia, not Ukraine, is the glowing beacon on the hill for Neo Nazis...
 
I do not think that the Ukrainian army can teach the US military anything. Completely different level
 
the Orange county register goes deeper into the report than the CNN etc

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/10/...se-white-supremacists-in-southern-california/

Wow. Someone found some rightists in Ukraine.

No mention though of Pamyat, Russian National Unity, DPNI, National Socialist Society, Slavic Union. All white nationalist/Neo-Nazi groups in Russia.

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Slavic Union (Slavyanskiy Soyuz/SS)
 
I do not think that the Ukrainian army can teach the US military anything. Completely different level

The Ukraine military is helping the US military learn things about the Russian military on the eastern front in Donbas.

Anyone with military experience would have realized that.
 
Wow. Someone found some rightists in Ukraine.

No mention though of Pamyat, Russian National Unity, DPNI, National Socialist Society, Slavic Union. All white nationalist/Neo-Nazi groups in Russia.

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Slavic Union (Slavyanskiy Soyuz/SS)

Slavic Union are banned in Russia as are other neo nazi groups ... Slavic Union is active in several Eastern European countries ... so don't get facts in the way of more lies
 
Slavic Union are banned in Russia as are other neo nazi groups ... Slavic Union is active in several Eastern European countries ... so don't get facts in the way of more lies

I denoted only five. There are dozens of neo-Nazi groups in Russia.

And no, they march in parades/attack gays and minorities openly and the police look the other way.

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Neo-Nazis in Russia celebrate Hitlers birthday.
 
Whataboutism yet again :roll:.



The issue here is with Ukraine, a state which is subsidised by the West, and which wants to join NATO / EU.



Ukraine has a nazi problem, and it is a state which is loved by the West (and of course RV). What's going on?
 
Ukraine has a nazi problem....

Russia has an invasion problem, an assassination problem, and an a anti-democracy problem.

And those problems are just for starters. A quite extensive list could be made.
 
Whataboutism yet again :roll:.


The issue here is with Ukraine, a state which is subsidised by the West, and which wants to join NATO / EU.



Ukraine has a nazi problem, and it is a state which is loved by the West (and of course RV). What's going on?

Post #5....

4 Neo Nazis go to Ukraine while US Neo Nazis look to Russia.....
 
I denoted only five. There are dozens of neo-Nazi groups in Russia.

And no, they march in parades/attack gays and minorities openly and the police look the other way.

Russian+Neo-Nazis+-+Blog+April+28,+2014.jpg


Neo-Nazis in Russia celebrate Hitlers birthday.

Looks like a whole lot more than 4 guys there....
 
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