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Ukraine and the Russia Collusion Hoax

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Watch this documentary -- I think that understanding its implications may provide clues on why the Russia Collusion Hoax against Trump happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcN7S7VFuAQ


Hyperaggressive corrupt special interests entrenched in the power-mongering establishment felt threatened when Trump dared to question NATO funding by talking about NATO partners having to pay more of their fair share.

Reacting aggressively, they thought they could eliminate Trump by smearing him with fake allegations and then launching an inquisition against him.

But Trump's large and ardent support base were not going to throw in the towel, and have fought back by investigating the inquisitioners. This has then triggered the survival instincts of the power-mongers, who are hell-bent on dominating US foreign policy, and caused them to double down on their McCarthyite tactics through their control of the media. What is now underway is a battle between the American Nation and the American Empire.
 

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For some reason, the link has now been disabled by Youtube.
That's very odd - the link was working here before, when I posted it a few hours ago. Now suddenly the video has been disabled/removed by Youtube itself.

Here's a link to the trailer.



EDIT: Okay, I've found another copy of it on Youtube -- here it is below -- please watch it before they try to take it down, like the Thought Police they are:

 
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Watch this documentary -- I think that understanding its implications may provide clues on why the Russia Collusion Hoax against Trump happened:

Hyperaggressive corrupt special interests entrenched in the power-mongering establishment felt threatened when Trump dared to question NATO funding by talking about NATO partners having to pay more of their fair share.

Reacting aggressively, they thought they could eliminate Trump by smearing him with fake allegations and then launching an inquisition against him.

But Trump's large and ardent support base were not going to throw in the towel, and have fought back by investigating the inquisitioners. This has then triggered the survival instincts of the power-mongers, who are hell-bent on dominating US foreign policy, and caused them to double down on their McCarthyite tactics through their control of the media. What is now underway is a battle between the American Nation and the American Empire.
There was no "Russia Collusion Hoax". There was only the perfectly reasonable investigation into Trump's campaign after 1) his known history of association with Russians, including money laundering through his properties, 2) Russia's well known interference on his behalf in the election, confirmed by all of our intelligence agencies and 3) his very public request, available in video, asking them to give him dirt on his political opponent. Ask yourself how many Trump campaign associates were charged with Failure to File as Foreign Agents of Russia. Do you even remember?

To NOT investigate Trump's collusion, and his campaign's connections to Russia, would have amounted to a dereliction of duty. Mueller's investigation was the most justified in the history of Special Prosecutors, incredibly productive, and essentially payed for itself in fines.

It was anything but a hoax!
 
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And after you finish watching that 2016 documentary - watch the 2019 sequel - I'm still watching it myself and haven't finished yet:

 

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Trash propaganda videos, no debate here.
Might as well say "buy my new product! Here's a link!"
 

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Trash propaganda videos, no debate here.
Might as well say "buy my new product! Here's a link!"

I don't know if you've watched any movies from Oliver Stone -- but he's made some very memorable hits like Scarface, Platoon, Wall Street, Born on the 4th of July, Talk Radio, JFK, etc.
I'll watch this latest work before dismissing it out of hand.
 

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Watch this documentary -- I think that understanding its implications may provide clues on why the Russia Collusion Hoax against Trump happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcN7S7VFuAQ


Hyperaggressive corrupt special interests entrenched in the power-mongering establishment felt threatened when Trump dared to question NATO funding by talking about NATO partners having to pay more of their fair share.

Reacting aggressively, they thought they could eliminate Trump by smearing him with fake allegations and then launching an inquisition against him.

But Trump's large and ardent support base were not going to throw in the towel, and have fought back by investigating the inquisitioners. This has then triggered the survival instincts of the power-mongers, who are hell-bent on dominating US foreign policy, and caused them to double down on their McCarthyite tactics through their control of the media. What is now underway is a battle between the American Nation and the American Empire.
Sorry. I don't have time to watch the video at the moment.

I am curious, does the video show which democrat appointed Mueller?
 

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if we found out later that the OP was the press secretary for Putin would anyone really be surprised?
 

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Watch this documentary -- I think that understanding its implications may provide clues on why the Russia Collusion Hoax against Trump happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcN7S7VFuAQ


Hyperaggressive corrupt special interests entrenched in the power-mongering establishment felt threatened when Trump dared to question NATO funding by talking about NATO partners having to pay more of their fair share.

Reacting aggressively, they thought they could eliminate Trump by smearing him with fake allegations and then launching an inquisition against him.

But Trump's large and ardent support base were not going to throw in the towel, and have fought back by investigating the inquisitioners. This has then triggered the survival instincts of the power-mongers, who are hell-bent on dominating US foreign policy, and caused them to double down on their McCarthyite tactics through their control of the media. What is now underway is a battle between the American Nation and the American Empire.
More @sanman fertilizer.
 

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Because it was bullshit.
No, because Big Tech = Thought Police.

If I put up some video talking about Trump-Russia Collusion, do you think Youtube will censor it?
If I put up some video talking about Ivermectin never having been used treat illnesses in humans, do you think Youtube will censor it?
If I put up some video saying the Moon is made of Green Cheese, do you think Youtube will censor it?

Nope, they only censor when it's useful for Political Thought Policing.
This is what the so-called "Free World" looks like now -- it's life under Thought Police.
Hey Putin! Bet you jealous how we do freedom so much better than you! Can't even talk about Ivermectin over there without being censored.
Can't even talk about how masks don't stop COVID.
Can't even talk about how truckers who protest against vaccination mandates aren't automatically Nazis.
Can't talk about how senile Biden is. Hell, Biden can't even talk to us because of how senile he is. The Emperor Has No Clothes, but we're not allowed to say it.
 

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There was no "Russia Collusion Hoax". There was only the perfectly reasonable investigation into Trump's campaign after 1) his known history of association with Russians, including money laundering through his properties, 2) Russia's well known interference on his behalf in the election, confirmed by all of our intelligence agencies and 3) his very public request, available in video, asking them to give him dirt on his political opponent. Ask yourself how many Trump campaign associates were charged with Failure to File as Foreign Agents of Russia. Do you even remember?

To NOT investigate Trump's collusion, and his campaign's connections to Russia, would have amounted to a dereliction of duty. Mueller's investigation was the most justified in the history of Special Prosecutors, incredibly productive, and essentially payed for itself in fines.

It was anything but a hoax!
What a load of BS. It's been proven to have been faked by democrats. No collusion existed with Trump and those involved in the scheme knew it. That includes the FBI and DOJ. Comey was complicit in Hillary's escape from possible prosecution.
 

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What a load of BS. It's been proven to have been faked by democrats. No collusion existed with Trump and those involved in the scheme knew it. That includes the FBI and DOJ. Comey was complicit in Hillary's escape from possible prosecution.
Boy, I thought I'd have to reach for my hip waders to get through that steaming pile of shite. A person would have to really have some perverse machinations of the mind to completely overlook the indictments, the confessions, the fines, the criminal convictions, the sentences, . . . and all to say nothing of Trump's own well known ties to Russia, going back decades!

The only thing Comey was complicit in was Trump winning, and Hillary losing, when just days before election day he announced that the FBI was reopening it's investigation into Hillary because they thought they'd found yet another source of suspect emails. You should send Comey a "Thank You" card and a bouquet of daisies. But if you want to believe Hillary was guilty of any prosecutable crime, then you've nobody to blame but Trump himself! He had FOUR ****ING YEARS in control of the DoJ, and despite his usual bullshit campaign promises to arrest Hillary, she was never charged with even so much as J walking. Have you ever asked yourself why? Or do you really not want to know the truth? I suspect the must be the latter.

LOCK HER UP! . . . . . LOCK HER UP! . . . . . LOCK HER UP!
(LMAO - I slay me!)


Here's a link to send a "Thank You" bouquet to Comey. Without him Trump would have never slept in the White House.

 

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Boy, I thought I'd have to reach for my hip waders to get through that steaming pile of shite. A person would have to really have some perverse machinations of the mind to completely overlook the indictments, the confessions, the fines, the criminal convictions, the sentences, . . . and all to say nothing of Trump's own well known ties to Russia, going back decades!
Mind malfunction or living in a bubble...in the middle of nowhere. Probably both.

Let's not forget good ol' Trump obstruction.


Jul 24, 2019 9:53 AM EST
WASHINGTON — Former Trump-Russia special counsel Robert Mueller told lawmakers Wednesday he could not exonerate President Donald Trump of obstruction of justice and that the president’s claims that he had done so in his report are not correct.

WATCH LIVE: Robert Mueller testifies before Congress

“The president was not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed,” Mueller declared at the opening of congressional hearings into his investigation of Russian interference to help Trump win the 2016 election.


I didn't pay much attention to Mueller or even Trump, at the time. Only two things stood out to me: Barr's unprecedented damage control the day before the report, and Trump saying "No collusion. No obstruction" 24/7 after the report, when the report said neither.

Trump's repetition also raised an eyebrow. He beat the lie into the cult's heads. What is actually brainwashing is perceived as a chant, a battle cry; accepted, repeated and presented as fact. After three years, the lingering effects of misinformation trauma are still with us...them I mean. Lol.

"No collusion. No obstruction." - every four sentences for months

Mueller Report - once

The only thing Comey was complicit in was Trump winning, and Hillary losing, when just days before election day he announced that the FBI was reopening it's investigation into Hillary because they thought they'd found yet another source of suspect emails. You should send Comey a "Thank You" card and a bouquet of daisies. But if you want to believe Hillary was guilty of any prosecutable crime, then you've nobody to blame but Trump himself! He had FOUR ****ING YEARS in control of the DoJ, and despite his usual bullshit campaign promises to arrest Hillary, she was never charged with even so much as J walking. Have you ever asked yourself why? Or do you really not want to know the truth? I suspect the must be the latter.

LOCK HER UP! . . . . . LOCK HER UP! . . . . . LOCK HER UP!
(LMAO - I slay me!)


Here's a link to send a "Thank You" bouquet to Comey. Without him Trump would have never slept in the White House.

 

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Watch this documentary -- I think that understanding its implications may provide clues on why the Russia Collusion Hoax against Trump happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcN7S7VFuAQ


Hyperaggressive corrupt special interests entrenched in the power-mongering establishment felt threatened when Trump dared to question NATO funding by talking about NATO partners having to pay more of their fair share.

Reacting aggressively, they thought they could eliminate Trump by smearing him with fake allegations and then launching an inquisition against him.

But Trump's large and ardent support base were not going to throw in the towel, and have fought back by investigating the inquisitioners. This has then triggered the survival instincts of the power-mongers, who are hell-bent on dominating US foreign policy, and caused them to double down on their McCarthyite tactics through their control of the media. What is now underway is a battle between the American Nation and the American Empire.


Bill Barr makes some excellent points on this:

 
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