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UK parliament seizes Facebook files from app executive

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From ABC News

UK parliament seizes Facebook files from app executive

Britain's parliament has seized confidential Facebook documents from the developer of a now-defunct bikini photo searching app as it turns up the heat on the social media company over its data protection policies.

A British lawmaker took the unusually aggressive move of forcing a visiting tech executive to turn over the files ahead of an international hearing that parliament is hosting on Tuesday to look into disinformation and "fake news."

The parliament's Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee has "received the documents it ordered from Six4Three relating to Facebook," Committee Chairman Damian Collins tweeted on Sunday , adding that he had already reviewed them. "Under UK law & parliamentary privilege we can publish papers if we choose to as part of our inquiry."

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Facebook wants the files to be kept secret and a judge in California ordered them sealed earlier this year.

COMMENT:-

This is absolutely shocking!!!!!

I mean an **A*M*E*R*I*C*A*N** Country Court judge has ORDERED that the files be sealed and here the so-called "government" of the UK (which is actually a Socialist Monarchy and not a real country at all) is claiming that it has the right to release them if it feels like it.

Mr. Trump will simply have to impose crushing sanctions of the so-called "government" of the UK in order to stop this blatant attack on American's national sovereignty.

Right?
 

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From ABC News

UK parliament seizes Facebook files from app executive

Britain's parliament has seized confidential Facebook documents from the developer of a now-defunct bikini photo searching app as it turns up the heat on the social media company over its data protection policies.

A British lawmaker took the unusually aggressive move of forcing a visiting tech executive to turn over the files ahead of an international hearing that parliament is hosting on Tuesday to look into disinformation and "fake news."

The parliament's Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee has "received the documents it ordered from Six4Three relating to Facebook," Committee Chairman Damian Collins tweeted on Sunday , adding that he had already reviewed them. "Under UK law & parliamentary privilege we can publish papers if we choose to as part of our inquiry."

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Facebook wants the files to be kept secret and a judge in California ordered them sealed earlier this year.

COMMENT:-

This is absolutely shocking!!!!!

I mean an **A*M*E*R*I*C*A*N** Country Court judge has ORDERED that the files be sealed and here the so-called "government" of the UK (which is actually a Socialist Monarchy and not a real country at all) is claiming that it has the right to release them if it feels like it.

Mr. Trump will simply have to impose crushing sanctions of the so-called "government" of the UK in order to stop this blatant attack on American's national sovereignty.

Right?

Considering Facebook's actions against our own American citizens, I'm thinking they'll have to make some major changes if they want Trump to act on their behalf.
 

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Considering Facebook's actions against our own American citizens, I'm thinking they'll have to make some major changes if they want Trump to act on their behalf.

Yeah, like transfer a couple of million dollars into Trump's accounts. Trump loves a good flimflam, at least when he's the one to profit.

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Trump has willingly been the bottom boy for both Putin and the Saudis. I'm sure he would be bottom boy for Zuckerberg if the price was right.
 

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Yeah, like transfer a couple of million dollars into Trump's accounts. Trump loves a good flimflam, at least when he's the one to profit.

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Trump has willingly been the bottom boy for both Putin and the Saudis. I'm sure he would be bottom boy for Zuckerberg if the price was right.

I was thinking more along the lines of FB restoring all those conservatives they have banned.
 

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Now I can see one more downside of a Parliamentary system where the legislature is also the executive. I at least thought the judicial was separate in the UK.
 

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Now I can see one more downside of a Parliamentary system where the legislature is also the executive. I at least thought the judicial was separate in the UK.

The UK judiciary is no more involved in this than the US judiciary would be if the US Senate or House of Representatives subpoenas documents and the US Senate or House of Representatives is no more "bound" by any judicial order that documents be "sealed" than the UK "Legislative Branch" is.

Isn't it obvious that the "problem" here is that a "foreign government" is disobeying an American court order and may harm the interests of an American citizen by doing so. I mean, if the HoC gets the documents and releases them to the general public, how can anyone ensure that they won't be posted to the Internet (which would be quite lawful where the posting is done) by someone who is not in the United States of America and who isn't even an American citizen.

The proposed prosecution of Mr. Assange shows that the US had the jurisdiction to prosecute non-Americans for doing things outside of the United States of America if those things are contrary to American law - regardless of whether they are lawful where they are done - right?

Well, at least the US government thinks that it has that jurisdiction (and it has the weapons to back up that belief) - right?
 

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The UK judiciary is no more involved in this than the US judiciary would be if the US Senate or House of Representatives subpoenas documents and the US Senate or House of Representatives is no more "bound" by any judicial order that documents be "sealed" than the UK "Legislative Branch" is.

Isn't it obvious that the "problem" here is that a "foreign government" is disobeying an American court order and may harm the interests of an American citizen by doing so. I mean, if the HoC gets the documents and releases them to the general public, how can anyone ensure that they won't be posted to the Internet (which would be quite lawful where the posting is done) by someone who is not in the United States of America and who isn't even an American citizen.

The proposed prosecution of Mr. Assange shows that the US had the jurisdiction to prosecute non-Americans for doing things outside of the United States of America if those things are contrary to American law - regardless of whether they are lawful where they are done - right?

Well, at least the US government thinks that it has that jurisdiction (and it has the weapons to back up that belief) - right?

You have your problems, I'll continue to have my observations. With the garbage in your comment, why should I take you seriously?
 

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The British government...a pack of justice signalling, EU patsies.
This is just one more, in a long string of dumb-ass crap these pompous asses have done of late.

But its coming to an end...sooner than they will admit.
 

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You have your problems, I'll continue to have my observations. With the garbage in your comment, why should I take you seriously?

Well, one reasonably good reason would be because I DO actually know what I am talking about.

Of course, in "American Political Discourse" that is a negative factor these days, so I will quite understand it if you don't recognize the reality of the law when you run smack dab into it.
 

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The British government...a pack of justice signalling, EU patsies.
This is just one more, in a long string of dumb-ass crap these pompous asses have done of late.

But its coming to an end...sooner than they will admit.

I know.

I mean why would anyone if that so-called "United Kingdom", and especially in their so-called "government" think that the so-called "laws" of that so-called "country" have any effect when a County Court in the United States of America issues an order?
 

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Well, one reasonably good reason would be because I DO actually know what I am talking about.

Of course, in "American Political Discourse" that is a negative factor these days, so I will quite understand it if you don't recognize the reality of the law when you run smack dab into it.

Demonstrate some seriousness and you will be taken seriously. Please re-read your original post and ask yourself what you were trying to accomplish.
 

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UPDATE

The crazy tale of how the UK parliament ended up with secret Facebook documents

London (CNN Business) - An American app developer who gave confidential documents about Facebook to UK lawmakers during a visit to London says he did so because he panicked and feared he wouldn't be let out of the country unless he complied.

Court papers filed Monday in California detail a twisting, tangled tale of intrigue that Six4Three owner Ted Kramer claims led him to hand over the documents to a parliamentary committee investigating Facebook, even though a California court ordered that the documents must remain under seal.

The documents are significant in part because some of them may contain correspondence between Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and company executives. Kramer has them because his company sued Facebook and accused the social media giant of having a disregard for user privacy.

Six4Three also claimed that Zuckerberg devised a plan that forced some of Facebook's rivals, or potential rivals, out of business. Facebook had fought for months to keep the documents from being made public. It's now possible that their contents could be revealed during the committee's hearing this week.

COMMENT:-

The really important point in the article is that "... even though a California court ordered that the documents must remain under seal." bit.

Everyone knows that County Courts in the United States of America have jurisdiction over the governments of all of the world's countries (except, of course, for the US government) - right?

Besides, if you follow the debate concerning the 14th Amendment (here on DP) you know that he had nothing to fear because, since he was an American, the UK courts/government had no jurisdiction over him.
 

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I know.

I mean why would anyone if that so-called "United Kingdom", and especially in their so-called "government" think that the so-called "laws" of that so-called "country" have any effect when a County Court in the United States of America issues an order?

Like I said...this BS in Britain will end soon.
 

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I was thinking more along the lines of FB restoring all those conservatives they have banned.

lol...what is Trump going to do to FB, other than make them rich by attempting to demonize them? The huge data miners know more about what will turn a profit than Trump ever will - they have the data. As private businesses, they have clearly determined that pissing off conservatives is more profitable than pandering to them. If you ever wanted a good early warning signal to predict irrelevance, look at how business treats political demographics...hehe...
 

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Like I said...this BS in Britain will end soon.

That's right.

I mean what do those so-called "countries" think they are doing when the pretend that they are not ruled by the United States of America.
 
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