TiredOfLife
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Yeah, that would be known as lies. Thanks anyway.No lies here, sir. Just the fact that Margaret Sanger wanted to wipe out the black race in America. She was a huge fan of Hitler and the KKK had her as a guest speaker on black genocide.
I agree, in instances like this, but I keep stumbling on one question: where do we draw the line?
Well he isnt competent so what if he changes his mind and does want kids later? The whole argument is based on that he doesnt want kids. Well what if that changes? Then what? Did this guy ever agree to the vasectomy or not?
No lies here, sir. Just the fact that Margaret Sanger wanted to wipe out the black race in America. She was a huge fan of Hitler and the KKK had her as a guest speaker on black genocide.
Yet the guy has a job. Are you sure you know the whole story of what was said and not just what the court and news broadcasted? Have you heard this guys personal story? Or is this all assumption?
The guy has the mind of a 6 yr old. He will always have the mind of a 6 yr old. He has already fathered a child that he has no capacity to care for, and the parents don't want him fathering more, presumably because they could be held responsible for raising the children or paying support for them. This guy wasn't castrated, for crying out loud. He had a vasectomy. Now he can diddle to his little 6 yr old mind's content without fathering a litter of kids that someone has to pay for.
I do not have a problem with this.
Beyond that condoms fail, if he is incapable of grasping that sex makes a baby and can not understand how a vasectomy works, how can he be taught to use a condom correctly? He is incapable of "dealing with it himself."
More importantly, why make him go thru that? He said what he wants. He wants sex and doesn't want babies - ever. That means a vasectomy - for any man, not just him.
No different for a woman. If she wants to have sex but absolutely does not want to become pregnant, it means a tubal.
I think his stated wishes in the context of his comprehension was him exactly saying he wanted the vasectomy. So how is this different from any other man who changes his mind after a vasectomy - other than he is incapable of raising them?
Well, if we assume the news report is an entire lie, then there is no topic at all, is there?
So I'll put this question to you then. If two severely mentally handicapped people want to have as many babies as they can - or just have no clue they are making babies by such sex - one a year every year to be turned over to the government since they can't raise them - I gather that'd be just fine with you. That mental institutions would be mass human-breeding centers of waves of parentless children by pregnant mentally incompetent women and mentally incompetent men.
I think his stated wishes in the context of his comprehension was him exactly saying he wanted the vasectomy. So how is this different from any other man who changes his mind after a vasectomy - other than he is incapable of raising them?
I'd be fine with castrating violent rapists, but that is a different topic.
It does?
Yeah...I can sympathize I guess with the family that they will be taking care of children that he has but.....stinks too much of government making decisions they have no right making.
His partner could just have an abortion or take the morning after pill. The parents just don't want the financial obligation of raising another child.
My main problem is that it shouldn't be national news. The largest it should have gotten was the local paper/flyer, not even the county paper.
You would deny these people a chance to try even though it hurts? Must be easy to make that choice standing on the other side of the river. You arent the one losing your lineage to the abyss forever. The need to procreate is the whole meaning of existence and life, the apex of instinct. Yet you would deny it to less fortunate people so easily?Some people just need the law to take the decision for them...as in the case of hereditary diseases..
A couple here who are apparently compos mentis were told that if they had children there was an 80% chance that the children would be born with a muscle wasting/mental condition as they both carried the genes.
But they went ahead regardless, giving birth to 3 boys...all unable to walk, talk, wearing diapers, in constant pain, and are not expected to reach their 12th birthdays..
Social services are supplying motorized wheelchairs, have modified their home, nurses are in attendance to help the mother, all free of charge except to the taxpayers..
What is or was the point!!
Im not assuming the entire thing is a lie. I just know that stories can be wordsmithed to appear one way when its really another (seen it happen with local incidents and then the later news reporting on the incident). The article said he had a job and I believed it so I didnt discount everything. I dont see how sex could be more complicated than just about any job. According to my reading comprehension this story may be wordsmithed (or maybe it isnt) and I would like to know more. Being commited to a psycho ward is a bit different but I think even they deserve some odd way to spread their lineage (if they have never had any kids) even if committed but I realize society wouldnt be willing to accept this burden for them and setup adoption pathways specifically for these lost people. I just think its tragic.
The need to procreate is the whole meaning of existence and life, the apex of instinct.
Yeah, let's throw hundreds of thousands more parentless children into the foster care system because a man with an IQ of 40 has to have children he doesn't want to have and a mentally incapable women goes thru pregnancy and labor she doesn't want - because you claim the moral thing to do is to force him to have babies and her to give birth to them.
Explain to me the 100% perfection of condoms for anyone, let alone someone with an IQ of 40 - and why you want to FORCE him to use condoms to avoid making children.
At least you now MUST concede that in the claim of "anyone having sex is consenting to having a baby" is false, right?
I never said that. I said I want to know more about this case in case its word smithed.
I guess then people who can't have children should just kill themselves for the total meaningless of their lives - and everyone else who can no longer have children due to age? :roll:
You would deny these people a chance to try even though it hurts? Must be easy to make that choice standing on the other side of the river. You arent the one losing your lineage to the abyss forever. The need to procreate is the whole meaning of existence and life, the apex of instinct. Yet you would deny it to less fortunate people so easily?
There is no point wasting something that can still function and be a benifit. Wisdom and benifits can still be passed onto society if you dont have kids. But to argue that procreation isnt the main point of existence is pretty damn stupid. I dont get why just because I want to fully understand the ins and outs of the context instead of just a few snippets from this article you gotta try to portray me as a heartless bastard. Stop being petty.
You would deny these people a chance to try even though it hurts? Must be easy to make that choice standing on the other side of the river. You arent the one losing your lineage to the abyss forever. The need to procreate is the whole meaning of existence and life, the apex of instinct. Yet you would deny it to less fortunate people so easily?
I do not agree at all that "procreation is the main point of existence." The "point of existence" according to who?
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