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Show us some evidence that the lawmakers made the Constitution with the belief that it should to be interpreted according to the writings by the Founding Fathers and the Declaration of Independence.the United States' highest court often refers to writings by the Founding Fathers and the Declaration of Independence to better understand how they should interpret the Constitution.
Explain how that established a union between the U. S. Government and religion.Why is this? Well, young lad, this is because our Founding Father's previous work is one and the same with the Constitution. You cannot look at the later Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers, the Anti Federalist Papers and previous The Rights of Man, Common Sense... Then conclude the Constitution is a different article all together.
As I said before, this is not my opinion. My opinion is my interpretation certainly, of the Constitution, but you cannot say that the Constitution's foundations are some sort of organic, American, intellectual creation.
The ideas Locke developed were derivative also (as are all ideas, including Roman ones), but Locke's notions about liberty (which we see practically plagiarised in the Declaration) and his notions about political power being vested in the people (who are all equal, not separated into plebians and patricians) went something beyond the Roman. The fact that he wrote about them just decades before US independence and his ideas were current in the scheme of things at the time also bears some weight. The Roman Republic came to a despotic end, as I recall, and no democrat would want its mistakes repeated.
Sorry friend, you're talking to the wrong person. I've never made such a claim.Explain how that established a union between the U. S. Government and religion.
That's another bogus quote.
Explain how that established a union between the U. S. Government and religion.
Show us some evidence that the lawmakers made the Constitution with the belief that it should to be interpreted according to the writings by the Founding Fathers and the Declaration of Independence.
What, the existence of a Congress? The Constitution's text is largely a blue print, with no idealogical "wording," which would give it away to one moral foundation or another.
Thankfully, reality has long ago afforded this problem a solution. Embodied in the Supreme Court, the United States' highest court often refers to writings by the Founding Fathers and the Declaration of Independence; to better understand how they should interpret the Constitution.
Why is this? Well, young lad, this is because our Founding Father's previous work is one and the same with the Constitution. You cannot look at the later Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers, the Anti Federalist Papers and previous The Rights of Man, Common Sense... Then conclude the Constitution is a different article all together.
As I said before, this is not my opinion. My opinion is my interpretation certainly, of the Constitution, but you cannot say that the Constitution's foundations are some sort of organic, American, intellectual creation.
I know. Show us any evidence you know of that indicates the lawmakers meant for us to ignore the well established method of interpreting constitutions that existed in 1788 and use the writings of the founders instead.A "union?" Please, spare me from your strawmen.
I don't even understand what you're asking for.
"Lawmakers made the Constitution," ... "interpreted according to the writings by the Founding Fathers..."
They are the same group of people. :2wave:
A "union?" Please, spare me from your strawmen.
I don't even understand what you're asking for.
"Lawmakers made the Constitution," ... "interpreted according to the writings by the Founding Fathers..."
They are the same group of people. :2wave:
Which God does Congress want us to trust?In god we trust enough of a clue
Which was not put on money until 1864.
And was not put on ALL the money until much later (not until the 1960's for some currency) and was not use continuously even after it was included in one or another denomination. It was not even contemplated until the Civil War.Which was not put on money until 1864.
And was not put on ALL the money until much later (not until the 1960's for some currency) and was not use continuously even after it was included in one or another denomination. It was not even contemplated until the Civil War.
https://www.treasury.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml
Teddy Roosevelt removed it. Congress put it back.
Yep. That was because McKinley failed to remove In God We Trust.And God killed McKinley so Teddy could become President!
Yep. That was because McKinley failed to remove In God We Trust.
I guess McKinley was wrong on that trusting God thing after all.
One of the arguments advanced by the Christian Nationalist in favor of putting "In God We Trust" on some of the nation's coins was that it "would place us openly under the Divine protection we have personally claimed." However, it appears that we were already under Divine protection and God actually withdrew his protection and sent, or at least allowed, an assassin to destroy the President just a month after he signed the evil legislation.
A second argument used by the Counterfeit Christians was that it would "relieve us from the ignominy of heathenism" and end "our national shame in disowning God."
It appears that perhaps the founders really were heathens who disowned God by making our Godless Constitution, at least from the perspective of the Presbyterians and other Counterfeit Christians.
Show us some evidence that the lawmakers made the Constitution with the belief that it should to be interpreted according to the writings by the Founding Fathers and the Declaration of Independence.
The authors of both the Federalist and Anti-Federalist took for granted that the well established common law rules of construction (not the writings of the founding fathers) would be used to interpret the Constitution.Try reading the Federalist Papers then come back and lets have a discussion till then all of your discussion are mute you have no idea what your talking about as usual.
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