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U.S. NEWS Catholic high school in Ohio to drug test all students

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Catholic high school in Ohio to drug test all students

The school said the “aggressive stance against the threat of drug use” is a tool to fight peer pressure and “can provide parents greater peace of mind.”

A Catholic high school in Ohio said it will begin drug testing students in January 2020.

Stephen T. Badin High School said this week it will institute the mandatory testing as part of a health and wellness initiative.
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The school is in Hamilton, OH, near Cincinnati.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Prohibition comes to mind, creating organized crime & alcoholism in its wake. See Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it | Definition of Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it at Dictionary.com
 
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Huh. Good for them. They are a private educational institution, and it seems like a good way to help keep the riffraff out and to scare straight the other kids. And if those children so desperately want to experiment with drugs and alcohol, there is always college.
 

I see ACLU involvement.
 
Outlook said:
I see ACLU involvement.
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I see a lot of drunken & drug-addicted college kids having sex with their former high school female classmates. Prohibition only creates desire. And besides drugs, Catholic high schools (which I have experienced) have a closed-thigh policy with regard to intersex relations among their students. And those saintly young woman can be just as horny as their sexually deprived male classmates.
 
Mr Person said:
It's a private Catholic school. Exactly what is the ACLU going to sue them for?
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It doesn’t matter if it’s a private school. ACLU will look at whether students rights for mandatory drug testing is constitutional.
In fact a similar case was adjudicated in 2002 in the case of Board of Education v. Earls. In that case it involved drug testing athletes. The court found students rights were not violated.
 

It absolutely DOES matter to the question of constitutionality because only a "state actor" is bound by the bill of rights. And if you did know what Board of Ed. v. Earls was about, you would know it was about mandatory drug testing by a public school system. The Board of Education involved was that of Tecumseh, OK.

I am not a state actor. Therefore, I cannot violate your right against unreasonable searches or seizures. The same goes for a private school that does not qualify as a state actor.


Outlook said:
The court found students rights were not violated.
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The Court found that athletes participating in extra-curricular activities in particular have a diminished expectation of privacy (though, one may note that in general students in public schools have diminished expectation of privacy) and the policy furthered an important state interest of preventing and deterring drug use by those athletes. Relatedly, the intrusion on that diminished expectation of privacy was minimal.

BOARD OF ED. OF INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DIST.NO. 92 OF POTTAWATOMIE CTY. v. EARLS | FindLaw




But here we have a private school. And unless one of the 'exceptions' in which a private entity with certain interwoven ties to government allow a court to treat it as a "state actor" applies, the ACLU cannot sue them alleging a violation of the 4th Amd., which again is what was at issue in Earls.
 
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Good for them.
Prohibition, lol:roll:
 
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No surprise to read a progressive Democrat furiously defending meth, heroin, cocaine, and any other drugs being sold to and used by school children. There is no criminal or criminal activity the Democratic Party doesn't love UNLESS violated or attacks against Republicans.
 

Since when has there not been a prohibition for the underage?
 

Yes, if those catholic schools had them back when, Brett Kavanaugh might not have been successful, might not have grown up to be the drunk he is.
 
1. Glad to know that there are still some Catholic schools left.

2. Students are very lucky to have parents who are able and willing to pay tuition.

3. Catholic schools offer at least two things that are missing in most public schools, especially in large cities: academic excellence and discipline.

4. Many big city public schools are almost as dangerous as prison.

a. Here in Los Angeles last week, there was chaos on campus of one high school where students AND parents were involved in fistfights and rock throwing.
b. Public schools have no discipline because well-meaning liberals (who themselves would never teach) have deprived the schools of disciplinary tools on the basis of alleged "discrimination."

5. I know that this is 2019, but it's great that a school tries to keep its students away from drugs. Of course, marijuana, for example, should be allowed for medical relief. But people should voluntarily stay away from recreational marijuana, which I have read makes one super "mellow." When driving a car, is it really good to be too mellow? Besides, all the facts about possible negative side effects are not in yet, are they? What is more important than one's health?
 
They should test their female students for birth control pills and monitor the periods.
 

Are they testing for alcohol? How long does it stay in one's system?
 
Outlook said:
I see ACLU involvement.
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What are they going to do? Nobody is forced to go to that school, the students have the choice of going to public school. So in order to go to this private school, they must agree to be drug tested. Don't want to be drug tested go to another school.
 

So you are saying private institutions are immune from Constitutional Law. LOL
 
Outlook said:
So you are saying private institutions are immune from Constitutional Law. LOL
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I said what I said, and I said it as an attorney who knows what he's talking about.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about, nor did you even read the case. But between Dunning & Kreuger and human beings' predilection to respond to facts proving them wrong by tripling down on the wrong thing you said, you will no doubt say something snotty and claim victory.

You'll still be wrong, but hey, you'll believe you were right. And that's what counts, isn't it?
 
Outlook said:
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You really want to make a fool of yourself, don't you? Well, let's check in with what the ACLU of New York says.

By Christopher Dunn — With the notable exception of the Thirteenth Amendment’s ban on slavery, the individual liberties guaranteed by the United States Constitution protect against actions by government officials but not against actions by private persons or entities. Because of this, civil-rights lawsuits seeking to vindicate federal constitutional rights are limited to those situations where there is “state action,” the term used to describe the action of government officials exercising their governmental power.

[Goes on at length to describe the narrow range of exceptions to which I referred in which an individual or entitie's relations with the government are such that it might be considered a "state actor"]

Column: Applying the Constitution to Private Actors (New York Law Journal) | New York Civil Liberties Union

See also State actor legal definition of State actor



Even ****ing wikipedia would have helped you.
In United States law, a state actor is a person who is acting on behalf of a governmental body, and is therefore subject to regulation under the United States Bill of Rights, including the First, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, which prohibit the federal and state governments from violating certain rights and freedoms.

Though the term would seem to include only persons who are directly employed by the state, the United States Supreme Court has interpreted these amendments and laws passed pursuant to them to cover many persons who have only an indirect relationship with the government. Controversies have arisen, for example, over whether private companies that run towns (the "company-town") and prisons (traditionally a state function) can be held liable as state actors when they violate fundamental civil rights. This question remains unresolved, but the Supreme Court has held private citizens to be liable as state actors when they conspire with government officials to deprive people of their rights. Conversely, in National Collegiate Athletic Association v. Smith, the Supreme Court has found that the National Collegiate Athletic Association is not a state actor for the purposes of 28 U.S.C. 1983 because it was national, rather than acting on behalf of one state actor. For the purposes of a Bivens action against the U.S. government, however, it might still be a state actor


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_actor









Outlook said:
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Yeah, exactly.

:lamo
 
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More excerpts:

In United States law, a state actor is a person who is acting on behalf of a governmental body, and is therefore subject to regulation under the United States Bill of Rights, including the First, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, which prohibit the federal and state governments from violating certain rights and freedoms . . . The 1989 case of DeShaney v. Winnebago County was decided on the basis of the state action doctrine. Social workers separated a young son Joshua from his abusive father Randy, but concluded there was not enough evidence for a permanent separation, and later reunited son with father; later, the father beat his son into a persistent vegetative state. The Supreme Court ruled that despite involvement by state social workers, the state of Wisconsin was not a state actor and was therefore not responsible. Accordingly, the Fourteenth Amendment protections did not apply, according to constitutional scholar John E. Finn.Unlike state actors, private actors are generally not required to afford individuals the constitutional rights mentioned above.


What does state actor mean?




While most section 1983 suits are brought against local governments and officials, an increasing number of plaintiffs target private persons and businesses who have collaborated with government in one way or another. In such cases, plaintiffs claim that private entities have acted "under color of state law" in violation of the plaintiffs' rights. They must establish that the defendants are nonetheless "state actors" in order to prevail on the constitutional claims they raise. [continues]

"Identifying State Actors in Constitutional Litigation: Reviving the Ro" by Michael L. Wells



An entire law review article about how exactly correct my post was: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...9&context=lr&usg=AOvVaw1y6IFTB_VufGs_3xJi0DQw

Another: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct.../DEVO_10.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0JGN1xzKWRMoM53tnCcNWU






Outlook said:
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Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Make sure you know what you're talking about if you are going to so snottily run your mouth at someone.
 

Don’t bust a gasket, Counselor (right).
 
j brown's body said:
They should test their female students for birth control pills and monitor the periods.
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How about compulsory virginity testing? Then you wouldn't have to mess with those others tests. Institutionalized virginity testing sounds like it may produce a lot of virgins with some serious psychological problems after graduation.

I couldn't find a technical term for this procedure but I think 'hymenoscopy' works. The term for the instrument involved, the hymenoscope, can be found with The Google.

And if you should find a non-virgin, what do you do? Expel her? That should really mess up her mind.
 
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