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U.S Military preparing to surrender to Taliban

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The so-called leader of the world is setting up to succumb to the Taliban because it is incapable of maintaining an armed conflict -- constrained by western liberal opinion and a debilitating moralism, they are unable to actually take decisive action that would end the conflict and smash the Taliban. In response to this tragic situation they are now opening "peace talks," demonstrating it's weakness by going as far as to drop pre-conditions for such a meeting (source)

I am reminded of Colonel Kurtz's monologue at the end of Apocalypse Now

[video=youtube;KxLFdJLSho8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KxLFdJLSho8#t=28 s[/video]
 

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Please. We are pulling out because the war is over and the Taliban has been driven from control of the government. Our mission is done. Whatever goes on between the existing government and the Taliban is on them, not us.
 

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Please. We are pulling out because the war is over and the Taliban has been driven from control of the government. Our mission is done. Whatever goes on between the existing government and the Taliban is on them, not us.
Why is it that the Taliban are still able to mount attack after attack and both UK and US forces remain combat ready there? The Taliban aren't done. That's precisely why your governments are capitulating. It's 1975 all over again. Vietnam v2.0.
 

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Thank you. I know McCain promised a 100 year war but I'm glad we are going to reduce our investment in this worthless country of Afghanistan.

Hardly a surrender.





Please. We are pulling out because the war is over and the Taliban has been driven from control of the government. Our mission is done. Whatever goes on between the existing government and the Taliban is on them, not us.
 

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Why is it that the Taliban are still able to mount attack after attack and both UK and US forces remain combat ready there? The Taliban aren't done. That's precisely why your governments are capitulating. It's 1975 all over again. Vietnam v2.0.
Keep playing revisionist historian all you want. We could carpet bomb them out of existence if we so desired. The ones left alive are cowards who ran and hid like little school girls or are so worthless they aren't worth pursuing at this point in time. Either way, they no longer control the government which they did before we arrived so they have been defeated.
 

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Why is it that the Taliban are still able to mount attack after attack and both UK and US forces remain combat ready there? The Taliban aren't done. That's precisely why your governments are capitulating. It's 1975 all over again. Vietnam v2.0.
Because the Taliban and other insurgent groups have safe havens in Pakistan, which the Pak Army has been unable or unwilling to destroy. You're never going to completely defeat an enemy if you cannot destroy his base of operations. It would be like trying to win WW2 without ever crossing the German border.

That being said, no I don't ****ing support invading Pakistan.
 

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Ugh, this thread would have been considerably better if the OP was just the Apocalypse Now video.
 

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Keep playing revisionist historian all you want.
I'm not revising anything. The Taliban still exists, it still poses a direct military and political threat and your government is negotiating a cease fire. These are the facts.

We could carpet bomb them out of existence if we so desired.
Which is precisely my point. Why don't you then?

The ones left alive are cowards who ran and hid like little school girls or are so worthless they aren't worth pursuing at this point in time.
This is why I quoted the Kurtz monologue. You people have too many morals.

Either way, they no longer control the government which they did before we arrived so they have been defeated.
That's not a definition of victory.
 

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The so-called leader of the world is setting up to succumb to the Taliban because it is incapable of maintaining an armed conflict -- constrained by western liberal opinion and a debilitating moralism, they are unable to actually take decisive action that would end the conflict and smash the Taliban. In response to this tragic situation they are now opening "peace talks," demonstrating it's weakness by going as far as to drop pre-conditions for such a meeting (source)

I am reminded of Colonel Kurtz's monologue at the end of Apocalypse Now

If you're so eager to see us fight, why don't you enlist ;)
 

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Because the Taliban and other insurgent groups have safe havens in Pakistan, which the Pak Army has been unable or unwilling to destroy. You're never going to completely defeat an enemy if you cannot destroy his base of operations. It would be like trying to win WW2 without ever crossing the German border.

That being said, no I don't ****ing support invading Pakistan.
Decisive military action is required, not ***** footing around to placate some pathetic liberal agenda. You Americans have used atomic weapons before, what is stopping you now? The whole area is a travesty and requires strong leadership to deal with it.

When Bush talked about the full force of the American military, one would expect that to mean the full force of the American military.
 

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Decisive military action is required, not ***** footing around to placate some pathetic liberal agenda. You Americans have used atomic weapons before, what is stopping you now? The whole area is a travesty and requires strong leadership to deal with it.

When Bush talked about the full force of the American military, one would expect that to mean the full force of the American military.
Did the Soviet Union try that, but Reagan supported Bin Ladin and the jihadists by giving them training, money and missiles?

Oh how conservatives just can't make up their mind.
 

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If you're so eager to see us fight, why don't you enlist ;)
I am Danish and we only have special forces in operation there. Plus, when I did my national service I wasn't such a competent soldier, to my embarrassment.
 

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I am Danish and we only have special forces in operation there. Plus, when I did my national service I wasn't such a competent soldier, to my embarrassment.
That's why your avatar is of a young Hitler -- your love of Nazi-occupied Denmark?
 

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The so-called leader of the world is setting up to succumb to the Taliban because it is incapable of maintaining an armed conflict -- constrained by western liberal opinion and a debilitating moralism, they are unable to actually take decisive action that would end the conflict and smash the Taliban. In response to this tragic situation they are now opening "peace talks," demonstrating it's weakness by going as far as to drop pre-conditions for such a meeting (source)

I am reminded of Colonel Kurtz's monologue at the end of Apocalypse Now

Are you sure you've understood "Apocalypse Now"?
 

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At least he isn't giving them stinger missiles and praises to high heaven like Reagan.

You conservatives need to settle down and decide which failed foreign policies you really want to back.

Never heard the phrase, "An enemy of my enemy is my friend?"

Not saying that's always the wisest of strategies, but, it beats being a PUS.

BTW: I predict you'll be eating the 'failed foreign policy' entree really soon.
 

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That's why your avatar is of a young Hitler -- your love of Nazi-occupied Denmark?
You say occupied, I say liberated :) But it wasn't until 1940 and this picture was taken in the late 1920's. The reason I have a picture of him so young is because I am what is known as a classical national socialist. Hitler from 1920 until 1932. I am what would have been known at the time as left of the party.
 

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At least he isn't giving them stinger missiles and praises to high heaven like Reagan.

You conservatives need to settle down and decide which failed foreign policies you really want to back.

this pic you have posted as been proven to be false.

i have posted twice on this subject, how it is not accurate
 

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Are you sure you've understood "Apocalypse Now"?
But I'm not talking about Apocalypse Now, I'm talking specifically about Colonel Kurtz's monologue. I'm not sure how that was confusing since I linked to a video of it.
 

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Why is it that the Taliban are still able to mount attack after attack and both UK and US forces remain combat ready there? The Taliban aren't done. That's precisely why your governments are capitulating. It's 1975 all over again. Vietnam v2.0.
which was also a predictable end of a war that should never have been fought.
 

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Perhaps the OP would like to donate his services or the services of his family members, to help maintain American military forces in Afghanistan after 12 years of occupation.
 

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Never heard the phrase, "An enemy of my enemy is my friend?".
Yeah, a certain foolish Republican used it to give missiles and support to Bin Ladin and jihadists and Saddam Hussein. Stooooopid!
 
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