Ironfist17
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We have seen what the Iraqi people are made of.....they turned and ran the first serious fight they got into. If they won't fight ISIS, for their own freedom, why should we do it for them?
I love how we're now--apparently--sending more people to train the Iraqis.
I guess the previous decade-plus of training didn't get the job done.
I'm certain the Iraqis are just slow learners and 6 more months will do the trick.:roll:
bring them all home now.
I say we withdraw every single person from the mid-east and let them sort it all out themselves.
I love how we're now--apparently--sending more people to train the Iraqis.
I guess the previous decade-plus of training didn't get the job done.
I'm certain the Iraqis are just slow learners and 6 more months will do the trick.:roll:
I've been thinking this for awhile. How about we pull all non middle east personal (all countries) out, seal the borders, and ring a big bell and let them have at it. If any non combatants reach the border let them out and put them in refugee camps until it's settled. Let this go on until either someone wins or they decide "Screw it, you take this side and we'll take this side". Let them draw their own borders.
We have seen what the Iraqi people are made of.....they turned and ran the first serious fight they got into. If they won't fight ISIS, for their own freedom, why should we do it for them?
I believe strongly in isolationism and believe that we should not have any troops or military personal outside US soil but I also understand that my view is considered very unpopular among most and generally discarded at face value. But then again I do not believe we would have many of the messes that we do now if most people felt as I do about many things. What never ceases to amaze me however is how so many people want to continue doing much of the same and truly expect a different outcome. :shrug:
Man, neocons must LOVE ISIS...it gives them the perfect excuse to get back into Iraq.
Really, it's just another weapons scheme. First we were funneling ISIS weapons from Libya, and now were supplying them through the Iraqis. It's why we don't give the Kurds weapons. They'd actually use 'em.
Mornin HB. :2wave: To top it off some official that can't be named in Team BO. Said now rather than training Sunni Iraqis that were coming from the Central government. That we would work with the Sheiks of the Sunni Tribes.
We can't trust those from the central government. Let alone those being sent in from Sunni Tribes. What a mistake that is.....whole tribes all affiliated with ISIS would send in their people.
This is whole strategy is major screw up. 6 months ago the Iraqis were going to take back Mosul. Do you know how difficult that is going to be now?
The Iraqis can't take it back.....so who is going to do it? Whoever goes in now after all this time.....all the prep work given to ISIS. Its going to be a walking booby trap mess.
The only hope is to cut Mosul off, and I don't think they have enough of anything to do that. Whatever strategy Obama has, and I seriously don't think he knows what it is, looks like it will collapse before he gets out of office. I don't think he can dither around with this for another year and a half and hand it off. Things are deteriorating to quickly.
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According those that report Military and Intel. They don't think this shows BO has changed any strategy. 450 aren't enough unless they going to do the fighting and start at point A....then work they way thru the Alphabet.
ISIS offers freedomWe have seen what the Iraqi people are made of.....they turned and ran the first serious fight they got into. If they won't fight ISIS, for their own freedom, why should we do it for them?
ISIS offers freedom
US offer freedom
ISIS act according to Quran
US act according to big corporations' interests
I don't think Iraqi people want to fight ISIS.
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