U.S. Job Growth Unexpectedly Soared in July

[Conservative]

well again it looks like you don't want to take into considerations there is still variances of Covid around and some people are of the age that they don't want to take the chance of getting any of them by going back to work , #2 how many people died from it, leaving less people to work.
and where have I ever said I want Biden to run again?????
I just want people like you to STOP lying about the things that happened and he was left with to clean up.
like the Oil industry taking a big hit in 2020 from both the Covid and the oil price war,
and as for your statement " You are way too partisan to have any credibility. For some reason you bleed blue for the D ignoring the D results." YOU need to look in a mirror and change that D to a R
and that also goes for your last statement YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT YOURSELF
have a nice night

And as usual you want to ignore the reality that Biden got Covid twice after vaccinations and boosters the main reason voted for him Your loyalty is an incompetent President who tell you like most liberals and bureaucrats want to hear, no brutal honesty. The point remains, 17 million jobs returned from April 2020 to January 2021 and we still are not back to pre pandemic levels 2 1/2 years later. We have historic high inflation, a vaccine for the country approved and funded during the Trump term, and we are divided as a nation and you are divided as a party.

I said Democrats don't want Biden to run again, For some reason you continue to vote for the D regardless of the results along with the 33% polled. That speaks volumes about you. I suggest you move on from debate forums because you aren't very good at them.

 

[Conservative]

Do your numbers include part-time, gig economy jobs?

Yep, that is total employment as I posted the link. Again you show your ignorance to American economics and sources.

 

[Conservative]

'Liberalism' and a Labour government gave Britain our NHS and benefits system which helps the most needy and has done so since the end of WW2. How inconvenient, right? Naturally conservatives want to tear it down and introduce a system as hopelessly inadequate as that in the US, leaving millions uninsured because they can't afford to be shafted by venal insurers.

Labour created the NHS and has safeguarded its future

It's become unfashionable to celebrate political achievement, and Labour achievement even less so. And it's positively uncouth to be proud of something that this Labour government is doing. So, slam me for saying so, but I'm really proud of the NHS.

www.theguardian.com

Is the Conservative government privatising the NHS by stealth?

As the waiting list grows ever longer, more and more patients are paying for their treatment themselves.

www.newstatesman.com

Revealed: the Tory threat to our NHS

The Tory record of NHS privatisation and broken promises makes it clear you simply can’t trust Westminster with Scotland’s NHS.

www.snp.org

Looks like another opportunity for liberal utopia in your country, not paying enough in taxes?? Couldn't care less about your country yet with your problems you are here in a U.S. debate forum

 

[Conservative]

For that we are grateful. Just pointing out how completely out of whack your 'liberal' obsession is, ignoring the reality that all colours of government around the world are suffering from impending recession-as every analyst confidently predicts. Much as you would like it to be to suit your narrative, inflation and recession are not exclusively the outcome of 'liberal' economic policy. But your stubborn attitude won't allow you to admit it. There's no shame in being wrong; look on it as an opportunity to learn.

Yes, so sorry never in my 35 years in the private sector did I focus on rhetoric like you but only policies. I am waiting for the liberal rhetoric to generate the promised liberal results. When is that going to happen.

 

[Conservative]

A continuation and extension of this:
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Can you find AOC in the graph? The white house is ..along the same lines, you can see what's there.
I'm old enough to remember people complaining about the fact that Reagan took a nap every afternoon.
Biden has been villified in broadcast and social media.

The Senate was meant to be a body of elder statesmen, in a chamber that would maintain stability. The house wasn't meant to be that way but the graph shows the same pattern.

So hey I'm for Angus King '24! Go figure.

So would you care to explain why we still aren't back to pre pandemic employment numbers 2 1/2 years later and what Biden policies have made this country better? Now it is Reagan taking a nap as the comparison between Biden and the GOP? Really? Have you ever listened to a Biden speech or watch a Biden Press conference as few as they are? Keep making excuses for poor liberal performance. Democrats Control the Congress and the WH and the results are there for all to see, wake up

 

[snakestretcher]

Looks like another opportunity for liberal utopia in your country, not paying enough in taxes?? Couldn't care less about your country yet with your problems you are here in a U.S. debate forum

This is an international debate forum. Get that through your nationalist-obsessive head.

 

[Conservative]

This is an international debate forum. Get that through your nationalist-obsessive head.

And this OP has nothing to do with your country. My nationalist head is focused on this country and the disaster liberalism has created. Liberalism doesn't allow people to keep more of what they earn. Liberalism always places blame for poor liberal policies and results. Liberalism always spends taxpayer money to create dependence And per this thread liberalism hasn't gotten this country back to pre recession employment even with a vaccine.

 

[snakestretcher]

And this OP has nothing to do with your country. My nationalist head is focused on this country and the disaster liberalism has created. Liberalism doesn't allow people to keep more of what they earn. Liberalism always places blame for poor liberal policies and results. Liberalism always spends taxpayer money to create dependence And per this thread liberalism hasn't gotten this country back to pre recession employment even with a vaccine.

Clueless, ignorant ranting. Your specialism. See post #271 and see if anything resonates.

 

[Conservative]

Clueless, ignorant ranting. Your specialism. See post #271 and see if anything resonates.

Right, according to you where rhetoric and feelings trump policies and results. Your hatred of Trump hides a very mysterious personal issue that you need to blame on someone else.

Yep, post 221 resonates more than you will ever understand, SS was never intended to be paid out but in this country it is self funding by the employee and the Employer. I contributed more along with my employer than I have gotten back and you ignore what amount that would be had in invested it into a simple savings account for 35 years. The return on my contributions have been in the 1-2% range but don't let facts get in the way of your partisanship where all you show is ignorance of policies.

LBJ put SS on Budget and used it to fund the Vietnam War, others have borrwoed from the fund as well never paying it back only the interest. It was created when life expectancy was 62 years old and it is a self funded retirement supplement as is Medicare

 

[snakestretcher]

Right, according to you where rhetoric and feelings trump policies and results. Your hatred of Trump hides a very mysterious personal issue that you need to blame on someone else.

Yep, post 221 resonates more than you will ever understand, SS was never intended to be paid out but in this country it is self funding by the employee and the Employer. I contributed more along with my employer than I have gotten back and you ignore what amount that would be had in invested it into a simple savings account for 35 years. The return on my contributions have been in the 1-2% range but don't let facts get in the way of your partisanship where all you show is ignorance of policies.

LBJ put SS on Budget and used it to fund the Vietnam War, others have borrwoed from the fund as well never paying it back only the interest. It was created when life expectancy was 62 years old and it is a self funded retirement supplement as is Medicare

Who wouldn't hate a documented thief, fraudster, racist and pathological liar? That's Trump in a nutshell; and a significant proportion of very stupid American elected that pointless bag of shit to 'lead' you. How embarrassing for America; the world laughed at you then-and still does.

 

[Conservative]

Who wouldn't hate a documented thief, fraudster, racist and pathological liar? That's Trump in a nutshell; and a significant proportion of very stupid American elected that pointless bag of shit to 'lead' you. How embarrassing for America; the world laughed at you then-and still does.

Name calling is childish for nothing Trump did hurt anyone in this country as he generated the best results of any President in history during his first three years in office even though impeached twice. You have been indoctrinated by the left with rhetoric, propaganda and lies. You focus on perceived lies and results as if any of those had anything to do with what he did in office. Biden's policies and results cannot carry a candle to Trump and that is why he has a 33% approval rating on the economy, 38% over all, and still hasn't returned us to pre recession employment numbers. He doesn't even have full support now from his party. You need to stop reading the news and do some non biased research into actual data, pay attention to what he says vs his results since rhetoric is so important to you.

 

[MTAtech]

What good fortune, Gasoline prices much higher than January 2021 and inflation at 11% wholesale, now Biden is going to get more taxpayer funded stimulus none of which obviously affects foreigners who love Biden because he is a clone of their entitlement minded gov't leaders putting taxpayer dollars into the hands for the citizens creating no net gain

Ignoring your run-on sentence, leave it to you to painting situations as bleak as possible when Democrats are in charge and ignoring anything that is positive.

Inflation is coming down — fast.

Gas prices, defying predictions of a nightmare summer for motorists, are leading the parade:

The majority of gas stations in the United States are already charging less than $4 a gallon, and declining wholesale prices suggest that retail prices still have farther to fall.

Food prices are also coming down. Here’s the futures price for wheat:

Now that your argument is being sawed off at the base, which is the same argument the GOP was staking the next election, I’ve been wondering what they’ll do. After spending many months doing all they can to dumb down the debate to $5 GAS!, Republicans will have a hard time suddenly pivoting to nuanced arguments about headline numbers versus underlying inflation.

So far, their main response seems to be to ignore the inflation slowdown and hope voters don’t notice. Here, for example, is Mehmet Oz, running to be a Pennsylvania senator, on Thursday:

 

[soap box]

So would you care to explain why we still aren't back to pre pandemic employment numbers 2 1/2 years later and what Biden policies have made this country better? Now it is Reagan taking a nap as the comparison between Biden and the GOP? Really? Have you ever listened to a Biden speech or watch a Biden Press conference as few as they are? Keep making excuses for poor liberal performance. Democrats Control the Congress and the WH and the results are there for all to see, wake up

I've seen the portions of the press conferences that they never showed on Fox. Biden is articulate and engaged. He answers questions without a script. The illusion among trump supporters is that Biden is simply not a loudmouthed boisterous carp who conducts policy discussions by shouting, like some other president was, and that confirms their predetermined bias.

I have a relative living in our home who suffers from dimenta. My mom suffered from it also. I am aware , and have witnessed myself, how Biden is fully capable of thought processes that are impossible for people who suffer from Dimenta. You and the media have mischaracterized basic neurology.

I don't think I owe you any explanations. I'm trying to figure out what you're asking me for. I suspect you're getting huffy out of spite since the employment numbers for the second month in a row cast doubt on the recession scare. Or maybe you're frustrated that legislation to lower prescription prices for seniors in about to pass. Or maybe you're just ticked that corporations are going to pay off the defecit?

I wonder if you are hoping that more Americans suffer longer now, so that Republicans get more votes?????

 

[snakestretcher]

Ignoring your run-on sentence, leave it to you to painting situations as bleak as possible when Democrats are in charge and ignoring anything that is positive.

Inflation is coming down — fast.

Gas prices, defying predictions of a nightmare summer for motorists, are leading the parade:

The majority of gas stations in the United States are already charging less than $4 a gallon, and declining wholesale prices suggest that retail prices still have farther to fall.

Food prices are also coming down. Here’s the futures price for wheat:

Now that your argument is being sawed off at the base, which is the same argument the GOP was staking the next election, I’ve been wondering what they’ll do. After spending many months doing all they can to dumb down the debate to $5 GAS!, Republicans will have a hard time suddenly pivoting to nuanced arguments about headline numbers versus underlying inflation.

So far, their main response seems to be to ignore the inflation slowdown and hope voters don’t notice. Here, for example, is Mehmet Oz, running to be a Pennsylvania senator, on Thursday:

Hmm, I would argue that gambling on futures is something I wouldn't do right now-especially given the anticipated wheat shortages resulting from Russia's invasion. There's a lot of uncertainty in the markets right now.

The war in Ukraine triggered a global food shortage

Heinz Strubenhoff examines the war in Ukraine's impact on global cereal and oilseed markets.

www.brookings.edu

Wheat Futures Fall Amid Uncertain Weather — Daily Grain Highlights

www.morningstar.com

 

[Kushinator]

So would you care to explain why we still aren't back to pre pandemic employment numbers 2 1/2 years later

But we are... total nonfarm employment is at an all-time high. I do however know why you are completely incapable of admitting reality.

nothing Trump did hurt anyone in this country as he generated the best results of any President in history

The only way one could come to such a conclusion is to pretend the delusional nonsense above has any rational basis. The BLS clearly states the exact opposite in their latest employment report:

Total nonfarm employment has increased by 22.0 million since reaching a low in April 2020 and has returned to its pre-pandemic level.

 

[Conservative]

Ignoring your run-on sentence, leave it to you to painting situations as bleak as possible when Democrats are in charge and ignoring anything that is positive.

Inflation is coming down — fast.

Gas prices, defying predictions of a nightmare summer for motorists, are leading the parade:

The majority of gas stations in the United States are already charging less than $4 a gallon, and declining wholesale prices suggest that retail prices still have farther to fall.

Food prices are also coming down. Here’s the futures price for wheat:

Now that your argument is being sawed off at the base, which is the same argument the GOP was staking the next election, I’ve been wondering what they’ll do. After spending many months doing all they can to dumb down the debate to $5 GAS!, Republicans will have a hard time suddenly pivoting to nuanced arguments about headline numbers versus underlying inflation.

So far, their main response seems to be to ignore the inflation slowdown and hope voters don’t notice. Here, for example, is Mehmet Oz, running to be a Pennsylvania senator, on Thursday:

Why do you embarrass yourself by posting charts that destroy your credibility? What were gasoline prices when Biden took office? Your stunning loyalty to liberalism defies logic, common sense and the facts. What do you think Biden's new social spending bill is going to do to inflation? By the way you still haven't acknowledged that we are still below the pre pandemic employment levels of February 2020, why is that?

 

[Kushinator]

By the way you still haven't acknowledged that we are still below the pre pandemic employment levels of February 2020, why is that?

This is a lie.

 

[Conservative]

I've seen the portions of the press conferences that they never showed on Fox. Biden is articulate and engaged. He answers questions without a script. The illusion among trump supporters is that Biden is simply not a loudmouthed boisterous carp who conducts policy discussions by shouting, like some other president was, and that confirms their predetermined bias.

I don't watch Fox as Fox and Trump are in your mind completely. It is amazing how little it takes to impress you with Biden and how hard it was to impress you with Trump as Trump rhetoric deferred from the results with people like you. Can you explain why you are in the minority with your support of Biden?

I have a relative living in our home who suffers from dimenta. My mom suffered from it also. I am aware , and have witnessed myself, how Biden is fully capable of thought processes that are impossible for people who suffer from Dimenta. You and the media have mischaracterized basic neurology.

NO, the media and me focus on results, you buy rhetoric. 33% approval rating on the economy includes you, why?

I don't think I owe you any explanations. I'm trying to figure out what you're asking me for. I suspect you're getting huffy out of spite since the employment numbers for the second month in a row cast doubt on the recession scare. Or maybe you're frustrated that legislation to lower prescription prices for seniors in about to pass. Or maybe you're just ticked that corporations are going to pay off the defecit?

The results continue to show that we haven't gotten back to pre pandemic levels and that is something you refuse to acknowledge

I wonder if you are hoping that more Americans suffer longer now, so that Republicans get more votes?????

Wrong, 74 million got it right in 2020 with most of those going to the polls, the mail in ballots from people staying home voted for Biden. I focus on policies and results which you ignore. Stop projecting and do some non partisan research instead of buying what the media tells you.

 

[snakestretcher]

Why do you embarrass yourself by posting charts that destroy your credibility? What were gasoline prices when Biden took office? Your stunning loyalty to liberalism defies logic, common sense and the facts. What do you think Biden's new social spending bill is going to do to inflation? By the way you still haven't acknowledged that we are still below the pre pandemic employment levels of February 2020, why is that?

One day you might understand that neither Biden nor anyone else controls domestic gas (petrol), prices. Learn:

What Determines Oil Prices?

Understand the economic factors and other market forces that impact oil prices.

www.investopedia.com

But, but Biden, liberal economic policy, blah, blah, blah

 

[Conservative]

One day you might understand that neither Biden nor anyone else controls gas (petrol), prices. Learn:

What Determines Oil Prices?

Understand the economic factors and other market forces that impact oil prices.

www.investopedia.com

For someone he focuses on rhetoric, what do you think the oil companies are doing listening to Biden's rhetoric? Companies do not print cash and will respond to rhetoric about raising taxes and more regulations. Now back to the thread topic, do we have more or less people employed today than February 2020?

 

[snakestretcher]

For someone he focuses on rhetoric, what do you think the oil companies are doing listening to Biden's rhetoric? Companies do not print cash and will respond to rhetoric about raising taxes and more regulations. Now back to the thread topic, do we have more or less people employed today than February 2020?

You brought up the cost of gas, not me. Supply and demand, the futures markets; that's what determines oil prices-stock markets gambling in other words. Nothing, nada, zero, niente, nic to do with Biden. You are clearly incapable of learning, but I'll give it one more try:

Factors That Control Oil Prices

Oil prices are controlled by commodities market trading. Some of the factors that impact them are supply, demand, reserves, world events, and disasters.

www.thebalance.com

What Determines Oil Prices?

Understand the economic factors and other market forces that impact oil prices.

www.investopedia.com

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Good to see us back to pre-pandemic levels of employment and I hope this means we’re going to avoid a recession. I think a lot depends on what the fed does with the interest rates in the near term.

Wait . . . what? The fed? No, no, no! It is all Biden . . . if it is bad, remember? If it is good, it is because of the awesome republicans in Congress.

 

[Conservative]

Ignoring your run-on sentence, leave it to you to painting situations as bleak as possible when Democrats are in charge and ignoring anything that is positive.

Inflation is coming down — fast.

Gas prices, defying predictions of a nightmare summer for motorists, are leading the parade:

The majority of gas stations in the United States are already charging less than $4 a gallon, and declining wholesale prices suggest that retail prices still have farther to fall.

Food prices are also coming down. Here’s the futures price for wheat:



Now that your argument is being sawed off at the base, which is the same argument the GOP was staking the next election, I’ve been wondering what they’ll do. After spending many months doing all they can to dumb down the debate to $5 GAS!, Republicans will have a hard time suddenly pivoting to nuanced arguments about headline numbers versus underlying inflation.

So far, their main response seems to be to ignore the inflation slowdown and hope voters don’t notice. Here, for example, is Mehmet Oz, running to be a Pennsylvania senator, on Thursday:

Where are these prices on your chart?

National Average Gas Prices Rise Steadily in 2021

The national average price for gasoline is a nickel more than last week, but is still cheaper year-over-year by 17 cents.

www.automotive-fleet.com

 

[Tbird19482]

And as usual you want to ignore the reality that Biden got Covid twice after vaccinations and boosters the main reason voted for him Your loyalty is an incompetent President who tell you like most liberals and bureaucrats want to hear, no brutal honesty. The point remains, 17 million jobs returned from April 2020 to January 2021 and we still are not back to pre pandemic levels 2 1/2 years later. We have historic high inflation, a vaccine for the country approved and funded during the Trump term, and we are divided as a nation and you are divided as a party.

I said Democrats don't want Biden to run again, For some reason you continue to vote for the D regardless of the results along with the 33% polled. That speaks volumes about you. I suggest you move on from debate forums because you aren't very good at them.

LOL
that was one of my main points . even with vaccinations people are still getting sick and NOT being able to go back to work.
and IF you are trying to imply that TRUMP had " Brutal HONESTY " that is a laugh how many THOUSANDS of lies did he tell the people of the US?
and again with a number of people dying from Covid/ getting Covid the work force isn't going to run out and go back to work if they think they may get it again.
and AGAIN for the umpteenth time I did NOT vote for Biden
Have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

Wait . . . what? The fed? No, no, no! It is all Biden . . . if it is bad, remember? If it is good, it is because of the awesome republicans in Congress.

As usual you are looking at 2022 not 2021 when this mess started in this country, why is that? It is stunning how you blame the global economy for the results in this country when the global economy isn't in recession. Still no acknowledgement that the employment in July still is below the February 2020 numbers with a Democrat Congress and President